What is meant by a "box" cue?

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I've read this term thrown around quite often here but I cannot for the life of me find out what it means and the search function doesn't allow 3 letter words. Thanks
 
JBB2388 said:
I've read this term thrown around quite often here but I cannot for the life of me find out what it means and the search function doesn't allow 3 letter words. Thanks
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Floating box shape inlays, instead of points.
 

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The form was invented by Ernie Gutierrez, Ginacue. The first was made for Ed Kelly in 1969. Here's Ed and the cue:

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Heres another example of a box cue. Like the above posters stated, a box cue is a cue with inlaid boxes instead of traditional points. This cue has boxes inlaid on top of boxes for a total of 18 boxes between the forearm and butt sleeve.

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Here is another example of a box cue that Bob Owen created...
 

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Here's a few Ginacues from Will Prout's fabulous collection. The Ed Kelly box cue is the 3rd from the right:

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Wow, fantastic replies guys. Thank you very much. Love the pics as well. Really helps me understand better.
 
Bob Dixon said:
Ernie Gutierrez conceived the design in conjunction with Ed Kelly. Many cuemakers copied it. That cue last sold for $13,000 or so. Ed told me he sold it for $500.
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Actually a very interesting story about how that cue ended up with the current owner. Interesting as it really illustrates the nature of collecting.

I can get that Ed recalled the design being in "conjunction". I wonder if Ernie remembers it that way?

Kevin
 
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Princecues said:
Heres another example of a box cue. Like the above posters stated, a box cue is a cue with inlaid boxes instead of traditional points. This cue has boxes inlaid on top of boxes for a total of 18 boxes between the forearm and butt sleeve.

amboynabox.jpg
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That ringwork looks mighty familiar...cool cue
 
I'm not into cues as much as some of you are on here so even though I've played the game for a long time I don't think I've ever seen that style before. I dig it. I've always liked floating points anyway, and I think I like those boxes even more.
 
Bob Dixon said:
I don't think it's likely that anyone would just say, "design a cue for me, I'll take whatever you come up with". Would you do that?
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I've bought maybe 40 cues from Ernie and my personal collaboration has pretty much been confined to saying "wow" or "thank you" or "great idea". I wasn't really saying much about how the first box cue was designed as I was about the way it is working with a master craftsman genius engineer artist. If Beethoven was composing a symphony for me I wouldn't really be saying a lot of "try C Minor".

For all I know, Ed drew schematics and explained the concept of the innovation of building boxes in a cue to Ernie who was taking notes, but I am willing to bet it didn't go down that way.

Kevin
 
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