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blackeee

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Posted this on "mechanics" section but didn't get much response. I'm looking for a cloth which will hold up better than 860 but is still on the fast side and can take the wear and tear bangers put on a cloth. Suggestions please.

Thanks for all replies.
 
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blackeee said:
Posted this on "mechanics" section but didn't get much response. I'm looking for a cloth which will hold up better than 860 but is still on the fast side and can take the wear and tear bangers put on a cloth. Suggestions please.

Thanks for all replies.
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I PM'd you already, but you didn't answer back;)

Glen
 
blackeee said:
Posted this on "mechanics" section but didn't get much response. I'm looking for a cloth which will hold up better than 860 but is still on the fast side and can take the wear and tear bangers put on a cloth. Suggestions please.
Thanks for all replies.
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You got replies in the mechanics section but you didn't bother to respond to any of them. :rolleyes:

That said - put Simonis 300 on your tables.
When it gets well worn take it off and flip it over - effectively doubling the life of the cloth.
 
I Switched

I have had 860 since 1999 and recently changed to Championship 30/30.
Table plays faster and I have been told it will last longer.
JMHO, Peace, Purdman :)
 
Purdman said:
I have had 860 since 1999 and recently changed to Championship 30/30.
Table plays faster and I have been told it will last longer.
JMHO, Peace, Purdman :)
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100% Agree with this. Awesome cloth, amazing wear, even in a commercial setting.
 
Championship on our home table also.

Looks like and plays like new 3 years later.

LWW
 
Who makes the 30/30? I see lots of numerical references...but don't know if the stuff's made by Simonis, Brunswick...etc. Thanks guys.
 
Retail1LO said:
Who makes the 30/30? I see lots of numerical references...but don't know if the stuff's made by Simonis, Brunswick...etc. Thanks guys.
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Championship Tour edition

http://www.champbilliards.com/




About Championship Billiards
D & R Industries, Inc. began in 1963 as a result of Dennis Ruber's and Richard Utanoff's vision (hence the name D & R). With nothing more than a telephone, working out of Richard's mother's bedroom in a small apartment in Chicago, Dennis and Richard began an amusement industry parts distribution business.
 
Retail1LO said:
Who makes the 30/30? I see lots of numerical references...but don't know if the stuff's made by Simonis, Brunswick...etc. Thanks guys.
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FYI
Brunswick does not make cloth (or pool balls).
The commonly used Simonis cloths in the U.S. are 860, 760 and 300.
n10 sent a link to Championship - you can see the different styles they offer on their site.

BTW - Saluc (Aramith) is a mfg in Belgium. Trying to contact them by phone is a waste of time
since they don't sell to the public. Many brick/mortar stores and internet retailers carry Aramith products.
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I'm going to have to give this 30/30 stuff a whirl when I refelt my table. Sounds like the nuts.

And yeah...trying to get in touch with Saluc is a colossal waste of time. They don't deal with the public, respond to the public...nothing. It really irritates me too. I'm fine with having to deal with a distributor...but I'd at least like information on whom your distributors ARE so I can try and buy their product. It really soured me on their product.
 
Retail1LO said:
...but I'd at least like information on whom your distributors ARE so I can try and buy their product. It really soured me on their product.
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Just google it - aramith pool balls
or try your local billiards shop if you have one.
 
Danny Kuykendal said:
Simonis is a 21 oz cloth, I believe, and so the Championship 30-30 does seem more durable, since it's 24 oz.
Danny
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Durability comes from % of wool content, not Oz per yd weight
860 is 24 oz - 90/10 wool/nylon
3030 is 27 oz (adv at 24 oz) - 70/30 wool/nylon


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Championship Tournament Edition

n10spool said:
Championship Tour edition

http://www.champbilliards.com/




About Championship Billiards
D & R Industries, Inc. began in 1963 as a result of Dennis Ruber's and Richard Utanoff's vision (hence the name D & R). With nothing more than a telephone, working out of Richard's mother's bedroom in a small apartment in Chicago, Dennis and Richard began an amusement industry parts distribution business.
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We just refelted our tables a couple weeks ago with this cloth :)

It's more expensive than the Titan we used the past couple of years but, the players love this cloth.....it's much much faster ;)

Makes the old felt seem like you're playing on your living room carpet :eek:

I'll let you know in about a year how it holds up to the bar box bangers :D

http://www.poolfelt.com/tour_edition_pool_table_felt.html
 
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Brunswick has cloth called Centennial Cloth. Championship makes it for them, it is the tour edition with Teflon added to the cloth.

Steve
 
Tablemechanic said:
Brunswick has cloth called Centennial Cloth. Championship makes it for them, it is the tour edition with Teflon added to the cloth.

Steve
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How would you rate this cloth compared to Simonis 860? Also what is the price of this cloth? I saw it listed on the Brunswick site for $399, is that the actual price?
 
Championship 3030

Great to hear all the positive feedback, a few of you are my customers and the people that change over to 3030 really do see and notice the benefits of Tour over Simonis. Gorina makes a nice Fabric also.

To clear up a statement, Our cloth starts out as a 27 ounce cloth, by the time it is sheared and goes through the finishing process it weighs in at 24. A TRUE 24 ounce cloth. I believe the other weighs in more to the tune of 21-22. If im wrong, dont fry me as I dont get to see Simonis manifest, just mine. After extensive tests done to all Worsted Fabric by a lab... We stand superior in durability. Playability... consistant through break in and no pot holes ;)

Glenn, PM sent on a referral. Long time no talk :D

Bill
 
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