What rule was this player's shot interrupted for?
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at 1:36 melling broke dry? at the copied timestamp williams kicked into the wrong suite..
Why didn't Melling take ball-in-hand then? He seemed to be amused and confused about the whole ordeal and by his body language didn't agree with whatever the ruling was.
And, if it was a dry break there is no wrong suite...the table is open. That and Melling's safety could have been construed as the wrong suite too.
There must be a better answer.
No. At 1:35:35 Mark Williams broke dry. Melling potted a solid and played a safe. Williams played a kick one-handed and hit the ball and a rail. The ref called a foul on Williams. Both players were flabbergasted. A head ref came over and apparently showed them the rule on his phone. Chris took the cue ball in position nullifying the call.
I guess you have to be holding the front of the stick with your hand or a bridge head. Resting it on the rail uncontrolled seems to be a foul.
I guess one-armed players are not allowed to play in this tournament?
I've always liked Melling. After seeing him do this I have an even deeper respect for him. Especially since it was a close match that was nearing its end.
That makes 0 sense but a good job by the ref being familiar with it. If anything, I would have thought you could have an "unsportsmanlike conduct" foul due to taunting and disrespecting the other player by shooting a silly shot. How can you have a rule about how to make a bridge without external equipment? What if you need to shoot over a ball and decide to use an air bridge instead of a rake?
huh, that's weird. he does that quite often in snooker, it's not a show off thing either, he believes it actually helps visualizing the kick. could be argued it helped him win in 2018
There was recently a revision of heyball rules so maybe the rules writer got overly excited and energetic and added a few bells and whistles. Sometimes rules writers do that. It takes time for the bad rules to bump up against reality.
I am still waiting for the "3 point" break rule to die, speaking of bad rules. That is a rule that causes more issues than it tries to solve.
Matchroom's solution for soft breaking is, "You gotta hit'em hard." The 3-point rule has the advantage that it is objective, but I agree that it is flawed in other ways.
We’ve seen a lot of that by the rules makers here as well. Let me count the ways!
Well, I happened to have a copy of the current Heyball rules that I had forgotten about... They appear to be largely a rewrite of the WPA rules. Under fouls we see:
17. Fouls
If the shooter commits a foul, the opponent gets a cue ball in hand. The following are standard fouls in Heyball:
(a) The cue ball is scratched or off the table;
...
(i) Bad play from behind the head string;
(j) Shooting with only one hand;
(k) Placing auxiliary equipment such as external cue extenders to shoot the ball on the table
...
That could/would actually be called a foul under WPA "pool" rules, because the player is not trying to win. Unsportsmanlike conduct.
That's true. Melling was essentially saying, "I don't want to play by your stupid rules." But fouling by not trying your best to win is not explicitly a rule in the WPA rules so far as I know.
as well it should be!
if we let these anarchists do just
whatever they want the sport will
fall into meaningless ill-repute
You mean like this? At least he seems to be using both hands. Four hooves on the floor but no foot.
(From the 1887 Illustrated Police News via Byrne's Standard Book of Pool and Billiards)
Mark Williams does a lot of things that few other players do. After winning the World Snooker Championship (about $600k prize) he went to the press conference naked. You can look it up and there is (or was) video.I shoot one handed shots often as I have as much confidence with the one handed shots as when I use a bridge
For the life of me I can't figure out why he did it?
