What tip do you feel mis-cues least?

greyghost said:
you know steve I'm with you on that. I see players constantly Tip picking their tip. I don't even own anything like that. I find that the more fuzzies i have on the tip the more prone to miscueing I'm going to be. I like the tip smooth. When it does get too glazed i just pass a little sandpaper to take the hard glaze off, and then put the tip in my palm and twist is to take any fuzz off it.

Hope you follow what i'm trying to say. But regardless the incessant picking at the tip is BS i never understood it. I might screw with my tip once every few months. When its where I want it I don't F*k with it. The only thing I'm going to do to my tip is take the mushroom out, but i usually press mine b/f hand so its not barely ever an issue. The only time I'll really do anything to the tip playing surface is when i have a really big miscue and It damages the tip shoulder really bad, as I like keeping a square shoulder on it. But again this happens only rarely, especially since i don't get more than a tip off center ball 99% of the time (not guessing its a fact...no point when the tip is 11mm)

I think it just gives players an excuse to play like crap....Oh gotta get my tip pick I'm miscueing....must be the tip lol

quit picking,
Grey Ghost
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I'm with you. The only time I rough my tip up is when I do finally miscue and ruin the edge. Other than that I *might* give it a once over with a piece of sandpaper or something just to remove the glaze. I don't sit there shaping and filing it. In my personal opinion, a tip will take on the characteristics of how you hit the ball. It will shape itself around the way you do things. Why on earth would anyone want to mess with that?

As for the thread at hand, when I was younger I used to use Triangle tips. Swore by them. In the early-mid 90's Moori tips were becoming the in thing to have on your cue. I was a B class player at the time and I thought switching to Moori's would improve my game. I started miscuing a lot when doing draw strokes. Because of the Moori tips I was miscuing on the draw strokes so I swore off Moori and went back to Triangle. Switch ahead about 6 years and I'm in the SA class, that's between A and pro here in Japan. I borrow a cue from someone, because I didn't have mine with me, and it had Moori tips on it. Flashback to my miscuing days, I didn't want to use a cue with a Moori, but I went ahead and did anyway. Turns out I didn't miscue once the entire evening. Got me to thinking, it's not the tip that was miscuing it was my lack of being able to control the cue stick and hit the ball where it's supposed to be hit. I've been using Moori tips now for about 10 years, don't have any problems with miscuing.
MULLY
that's because I'm awesome though
 
mullyman said:
I'm with you. The only time I rough my tip up is when I do finally miscue and ruin the edge. Other than that I *might* give it a once over with a piece of sandpaper or something just to remove the glaze. I don't sit there shaping and filing it. In my personal opinion, a tip will take on the characteristics of how you hit the ball. It will shape itself around the way you do things. Why on earth would anyone want to mess with that?

As for the thread at hand, when I was younger I used to use Triangle tips. Swore by them. In the early-mid 90's Moori tips were becoming the in thing to have on your cue. I was a B class player at the time and I thought switching to Moori's would improve my game. I started miscuing a lot when doing draw strokes. Because of the Moori tips I was miscuing on the draw strokes so I swore off Moori and went back to Triangle. Switch ahead about 6 years and I'm in the SA class, that's between A and pro here in Japan. I borrow a cue from someone, because I didn't have mine with me, and it had Moori tips on it. Flashback to my miscuing days, I didn't want to use a cue with a Moori, but I went ahead and did anyway. Turns out I didn't miscue once the entire evening. Got me to thinking, it's not the tip that was miscuing it was my lack of being able to control the cue stick and hit the ball where it's supposed to be hit. I've been using Moori tips now for about 10 years, don't have any problems with miscuing.
MULLY
that's because I'm awesome though
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way to be humble lmfao:p;)

i just always stayed with the triangle since i couldn't find that much of a performance gap b/t them and the top layered brands....that and triangles cost 50cents as opposed to $10/20 bones, and I like changing my tips out every 6months or so...i find that tips can, do, and will dry out or dry rot after some time...like they lose their pop or something i don't know but tips do get old.

Thats just more reason to put my nose and ear grease on the shoulder when I burnish the sides...sounds gross :sorry:but works perfect:grin-square:. But when I did use the Moori Med round 2005ish i did like it very much...and actually is the only layered tip i ever thought was worth a dam.
 
I find any layered tips miscue way more than a non layered tip. Ever since I have gone to a non layered tip I love it. Still miscue but not as often as I did with expensive Kamui's and Moori's. I use a Triangle tip and it's great, probably will never change. :grin-square:
 
pt109 said:
Sniper with a dime radius.
But don't declare them at an airport by name- you're going DOWN.
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I've had less miscues with a Sniper tip also than any other tip i've tried. I like a nickel radius on my tips.....

James
 
Regarding miscues, I have had the best luck with these:
1) Triangle
2) Dudley (Mueller's milk-dud)
3) Sniper
 
SCCues said:
I've had less miscues with a Sniper tip also than any other tip i've tried. I like a nickel radius on my tips.....

James
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Sniper tips suck. The Kamui soft tip is the best for not miscuing.

And Joe, from my discussions with you, soft tips grip so good that they are hard to control as they can result in excessive english.

How anyone can say that a hard tip miscues less is beyond me. This is a no brainer.
 
Bamacues said:
I understand that, to a point, but every pool player I know (pro or amateur) has miscued at times.

All those things being the same, what type of tip would have the least liklihood to miscue. As one poster pointed out, when a tip is glazed over, odds are that a miscue is forthcoming.

Joe
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The answer to your question Joe, is NONE. A player miscues when A) He, or she strikes the cue ball so far off center that force overcomes friction and the cue tip slips, or B) when there isn't enough chalk on the cue tip and once again, force over comes friction and the cue tip slips, or C) a combination of the two.
 
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pooltchr said:
It's not about the tip...it's all about where the tip makes contact with the cue ball. If you contact the cb more than half way out from the center, it won't matter what kind of tip you have. It's tip placement...not tip type.

Steve
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Wolven said:
....and a glazed tip will not:rolleyes: have an influence.............
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I agree with both.

First, Steve is 100% correct ... if you hit the CB perfectly 100% of the time you will be fine. Under those circumstances I don't thhink you really even need to chalk up.

Now, OTOH, none of us can actually do that.

I think the real question should be which tip(s) are most forgiving of a misplaced tip at contact.

I would have to say a softer tip is ... although I don't like the way they play.

LWW
 
The tip I would most recommend is this ...maintain your equipment , shape ect. I like the Kamui Blacks the med. has the consistency of a hard with a med hit. On different shafts it will also give a different feel, OB is one of them.
 
LWW said:
I agree with both.

First, Steve is 100% correct ... if you hit the CB perfectly 100% of the time you will be fine. Under those circumstances I don't thhink you really even need to chalk up.

Now, OTOH, none of us can actually do that.

I think the real question should be which tip(s) are most forgiving of a misplaced tip at contact.

I would have to say a softer tip is ... although I don't like the way they play.

LWW
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This is exactly the right question to ask. And it is not only a forgiving issue. Even if you do not miscue there is still "slip" when executing a shot that is off center. This is the approach we took in developing the Kamui II and the Kamui Black. Our Kamui Tips slow-motion video shows that the top english given to the cue ball. You can also see flex in the tip as well. Flex is a factor of the tip also. We work very hard to produce a tip for you to enjoy the game better.

I saw the light with the Kamui tips 5+ years ago and I am very proud to see more and more people loving the tip. I am excited for the future of Kamui and the Billiards industry.:smile:
 
CocoboloCowboy said:
Also do not DROP THE ELBOW, a rason many MIS-Q, but they blame the TIP!!!!!
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Right on cowboy. Last weekend for the white diamonds tourney, I had one guy stop in at the house for me to work with him.

We didn't have a whole lot of time, but I found a few issues that i showed him the fixes on.

The first thing he did when he saw my weinstock conversion w/11mm tip was try and hit a few balls with it. And he miscued, miscued, miscued, miscued.

He said something about the tip, and i took it and started pocketing balls with no problem.

I told him that the reason he was miscueing was not the size of the tip, but b/c he was dropping his elbow down to his drawers. I explained how the pendulum works and how it can affect the stroke and how it can cause miscues. A light went off in his head after that.

He shot pretty descent but you would be suprised how few people know simple things like that and how it affects our game.
 
Kamuitipsdotcom said:
This is exactly the right question to ask. And it is not only a forgiving issue. Even if you do not miscue there is still "slip" when executing a shot that is off center. This is the approach we took in developing the Kamui II and the Kamui Black. Our
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Thanks.

I'm far from a pro level player, although my deficiencies don't lie near as much in the physics of the game as the practice and implementation.

I've tried a lot of tips looking for the perfect one. Results were as good with a Sniper as anything I've tried, but the "FEEL" of a Triangle was what I've always liked.

Currently I'm using a Talisman medium and it does have a harder hit than the softer Sniper while giving decent spin and less deflection than a Triangle it seems.

Perhaps I will try a Kamui next. I've heard nothing but good about them.

Liking a harfer hit but always wanting minimal deflection ... what would you suggest I try in the Kamui line?

LWW
 
... if you hit the CB perfectly 100% of the time you will be fine. Under those circumstances I don't thhink you really even need to chalk up.
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"Perfect" doesn't mean anything more than "not outside the miscue limit". A "perfect" hit with chalk can easily be a miscue without it.

pj
chgo
 
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