Whats up with billiards supply stores?
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Thanks........if you need anything drop a-line, this goes for everybody, even the ones that hate retail stores and only deal with the web..aka: ( small buisness killer of america ).....it is hard to compete with online dump sites pricing some times, but I try my best....
Note: I stock 25 diff. tips........:joyful:
Note: I stock 25 diff. tips........:joyful:
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Thanks........if you need anything drop a-line, this goes for everybody, even the ones that hate retail stores and only deal with the web..aka: ( small buisness killer of america ).....it is hard to compete with online dump sites pricing some times, but I try my best....
Note: I stock 25 diff. tips........:joyful:
Bump for 25 tips!!! ooops...
Heres the problem with some Billiards stores. Now keep in mind I have been in retail sales since 1974 
When i would go to my local Billiards store to get a $10 tip put on they were polite but acted a bit bored. $10 sale big deal.What if I thinking about spending a bunch on a home table? I did not get that warm fuzzy feeling that every customer should leave a store with. Any store. Every customer to any retail store spending $5 or $5000 should be treated like royalty to keep them coming back. It's called "Repeat Business" and with out it a retail store is doomed to failure.
When i would go to my local Billiards store to get a $10 tip put on they were polite but acted a bit bored. $10 sale big deal.What if I thinking about spending a bunch on a home table? I did not get that warm fuzzy feeling that every customer should leave a store with. Any store. Every customer to any retail store spending $5 or $5000 should be treated like royalty to keep them coming back. It's called "Repeat Business" and with out it a retail store is doomed to failure.Just to help you out here, I charge $30 for Moori tips installed, $10 for Triangles, Le Pro's, or Elkmaster tips. Now there are many AZ Members who have had work done or purchased things at my Pro-shop to back up my claims. Now when it comes to forms of payment excepted currently I except Visa and Mastercard along with cash. But in your case we may also except food Stamps if it helps, just let me know Cowboy!!!!!!
Now back to what I have pointed out, it only makes sense that the store owner was white. I doubt there would have any issue if the store owner was a minority, just like everything you post or have posted there must be some kind of racial influence to the post. You just can't get past it and your comments above only further prove that to be true!!!!!
How sad, how very very sad!!!!!
umm...having read through this thread, it sounded like poolplayer2093 was replying to someone else's question about minorities. It sounds like you might be putting words in his mouth, or perhaps missed the whole exchange. I don't know anything about other threads...
KMRUNOUT
Kamui would be quite disappointed to hear that...you might want to keep this info to yourself to prevent that "dealer" from getting in trouble.
KMRUNOUT
Whitewolf...I remember you on the forum for a long time. I gotta say this post of yours does not seem like one that is based on a lot of thought. Businesses that are marking things up 300% need to fail. They are doing it wrong. If this shop owner bought 10 tips for $25 shipped, then he is an idiot for not buying 50 tips for $45 shipped. No consumer should be expected to pay the price for that business owners ineptitude. This "law of supply and demand" is exactly the whole point behind why almost everyone would buy pool supplies online, rather than at a retail store. There is no shortage of supply. As a consumer, if I wait to buy 1 tip in a moment of emergency, then I, too, am an idiot. The location of the shop is also somewhat irrelevant, as you can buy online from basically anywhere. Hence being in a small town of 100 people is no longer justification for ridiculous mark ups. Retailers must learn to do better, or fail.
Without knowing anything about previous posts (about tipping, for example), I had absolutely no trouble understanding where the OP was coming from. I have myself experienced something similar in my area. I have ZERO use for the local shop. They are extremely rude, charge absurd prices, and essentially offer me absolutely nothing that I can't get elsewhere more cheaply and with better service. Based on that, they deserve to fail, in my opinion of course.
Not sure why the OP deserved the attacking condescending attitude you offered.
KMRUNOUT
Heres the problem with some Billiards stores. Now keep in mind I have been in retail sales since 1974
EXCELLENT point
wow....
We charge $20 for a moori or Kamui and $40 installed.
That IS a little high...
Jaden
We charge $20 for a moori or Kamui and $40 installed.
That IS a little high...
Jaden
TheThaiger
Banned
I don't have a problem with mom n pop pool stores charging over the odds for their nickel & dime stuff, but it drives me crazy to see *established* members of AZB on the For Sale board asking 90% retail for used equipment they don't want, then telling us it's 'priced to sell' or making out they're doing us a favour.
It's a disgrace we put up with this rubbish.
It's a disgrace we put up with this rubbish.
I wan't talking just pool retail stores - I was talking in generalities. The old Champions retail store in Rockville Md used to sell pool tables marked up 200-300%. Now don't tell me you haven't seen this. I will bet you a dollar to a dougnut that this owner in our story did not buy in volume because he could not afford to. He probably went online and bought a couple of this and a couple of those. Of course this information seems unimportant to the OP. Basically, he is always looking for something for nothing and doesn't understand the American way, EVEN after posters explain it to him (see the tipping thread). Thus I call him the illegal immigrant, tongue-cheek of course. Sometimes I don't have the patience to deal with idiots, so I seem condescending. So be it. I am not running for a popularity contest and tell it like it is. In real life the OP would get laughed out of my pool halls for making comments like this.
We use to have a fellow in the Valley of the Sun, he was a retiree. Worked out of his home by appointment. Shirt Pocket Bob did tip for 5-6 BUCKS, plus clean your Cue Shaft etc. For the low price. He has moved to another State because of family problems.
Shirt Pocket Bob was always fair to those who I sent to have Cue work done by him. BUT some Senior Citizen Types even cried about 5-6 BUCK for a Triangle or LePro Tip Price.
Now I tell everyone who ask were to go, they must drive to Indiana School, and 13 Ave., In PHX to Shoot the Bull-House of Cues as they keep regular hours, and offer while you wait service for Tip work.
The guy who does the most of the work there is almost as good, as Shirt Pocket Bob, but their prices are high because of real business overhead costs. Plus they have the BEST Selection of Cue, Cases, and Pool ACCESSORIES in PHX.
Real business overhead costs are thing like
City License
City Sign Permit Fees
Business Insurance
Rent, Lease or Property Payment
Utilities (Phone, Fax, E-mail, Water, Light, Gas, etc)
Inventory
Equipment
Inventory
So when all is paid at months end, if you are lucky you have profit.
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Sounds like you missed my point entirely. You have now for the second time offered some examples of terrible ways to do business. Retail stores that behave as you describe DESERVE to fail and go out of business. The OP was specifically pointing this out as well. Somehow the point seems lost on you. You may consider developing just a hair more patience with "idiots"...like, say, enough to make sure *you* understand the situation before calling the other guy an idiot. People might get the wrong idea
KMRUNOUT
Sounds like you missed my point entirely. You have now for the second time offered some examples of terrible ways to do business. Retail stores that behave as you describe DESERVE to fail and go out of business. The OP was specifically pointing this out as well. Somehow the point seems lost on you. You may consider developing just a hair more patience with "idiots"...like, say, enough to make sure *you* understand the situation before calling the other guy an idiot. People might get the wrong idea
KMRUNOUT
On the contrary, I think you are missing the point entirely. How much do you think it costs to maintain a large retail space with pool tables on display? And other pool products as well. It is nothing wrong with marking up the pool tables. Where can the unknowing public go to buy a pool tables for their basements, and get someone to advise them as well as set it up? To say that these stores "deserve to fail and go out of business" is an example of socialism, where you and all the other cheapasses want something for nothing.
Think a lot of consumers are only wanting a BEST PRICE, and could give a ----, if the business is in business a day, a week, or year after the sale. Until they have a warranty problem, they most will say I can not understand why --- Billiards Supply is gone?
Here in the Valley of the Sun, many places that sold Pool Tables, Cues, and Billiards Supplies are no more because they operated at a loss, and the owner shut em down.