What's with the popularity contest?

WheatCues said:
In my opinion....

As far as her thread being negative and a waste of time is concerened, "I object !"

AZ forums has demonstrated time after time that negativity is a common denominator when considering the broad spectrum of members and they're personal opinions regardless whether it's "supportive or objective"...

Although her thread may be unappealing it's definitley warranted due to the behavior we have all witnessed on here, especially with my controversial threads and the few "cool kids" that thrive off of negative retorts and thread-bashing due to their childlike mentality !!!

She is just speaking her mind and giving a fair assessment of the general behavior demonstrated by quite a few members "including myself" that have been acting like school kids and not mature cuemakers and business owners !!

Just becasue it's negative based, doesn't make it less viable and even though it's doesn't contain a shred of positve context, it is still her "opinion" regardless of how shallow or deep it is perceived and she should not be persecuted for stating how she feels !!!

I personally don't see the need to qualify yourself to be able to make a viable post.... I think it's silly becasue you are removing the observation aspect completely out of the equation, and who's to say just becasue someone doesn't post on a regular basis that it makes them less creditable??? afterall some members who have been on here for several years choose not to post due to the amount of fire they may undergo just becasue they aren't a regular and are respected as far as the "pecking order" is concerened....

Of course I just put my neck on the chopping block becasue I chose to point out some obvious scenariors and are showing neutral support to "GWEN" and are not scolding her, so I'm sure I will be subjected to stoning and slander because I stated my opinion as well... but I do find it a little "funny" how people don't want to hear anything that is contrary to thier own beliefs without taking it way too personal ! "perhaps I'm a little guilty of that too".... it's sucks to be human sometimes !!!!!

Sincerely, Eddie Wheat :)

Eddie,
Your post nicely spells how you feel about this subject.

The bottom line is that everybody had every right to voice their opinion. The fact that some DISAGREED with the way "Gwen" made her post is not the same as everything you aluded to in your post.

The way I see what you're trying to say is that anybody on a forum can say anything they like, and it's ok because she was "speaking her mind & giving a fair assessment" and so on. Apply that very same logic and thinking to the posters who took a dissenting view from Gwen's. How come THEY are not also allowed to "speak their mind" as she was?

When "Gwen" did, it's OK. When someone disagrees with her, then it's not?
I don't understand that & it doesn't seem fair either.

Bottom line is that most of the established members know that you have all kinds of people posting on forums. It belongs to none of us individually but it's all of ours equally. And that being said, you'll see that the members here police their own. Just because it is a forum for free speaking does not mean it should turn into "a free for all" where anything goes.

If that was a legitimate post from "Gwen", & she had legitimate concerns, then why weren't the questions that so many posed to her addressed by her? It was easy to see thru her initial post in this thread. Some just missed it.

I've posted something like 1480 times here. About 5 of those were difficult because I don't like writing harsh to anyone. But "stoning & slander"????
Where do you get that idea from? Who on AZB has ever suffered THAT???

As far as taking things personal if someone disagrees, where do you see THAT???

Your post was melodramatic in describing the minor fallout that "Gwen" brought upon herself from what SHE wrote as being near persecution. She wrote something controversial. She wanted a response. She got many. Some say what she wrote was negative, some say the response to her was negative.
The world still turns. 99% of us are still pals. What in the name of pooldom was the big deal here????
 
These threads kill me. Does any grown up actually care if they're in the "in" crowd on a internet forum?

Relax. This is the best site in the world for pool. Enjoy the good, ignore the bad, and for heavens sake get over the whole high school popularity junk.

I enjoy the comments people leave when they leave rep, but I'd trade my ten greenies for a cold beer.

Cliques....hilarious.
 
bud green said:
These threads kill me. Does any grown up actually care if they're in the "in" crowd on a internet forum?

Relax. This is the best site in the world for pool. Enjoy the good, ignore the bad, and for heavens sake get over the whole high school popularity junk.

I enjoy the comments people leave when they leave rep, but I'd trade my ten greenies for a cold beer.

Cliques....hilarious.


Bud,
Congratulations on saying in a few sentences what I couldn't say in a few hundred words.

As for 'cliques", the only time most of us even hear that word is when Cincyman butts in. He really sees cliques all over the place. Most of us, we just have friendships, & we tend to socialize or gravitate to those we feel closest to.

As for the greenies, I even give them out to people who aren't in my possee, er, I mean clique. They're just tokens of friendships is all they are, and none of us can have too many friends in life.

Nice post Bud!
 
Terry Ardeno said:
Eddie,
Your post nicely spells how you feel about this subject.

The bottom line is that everybody had every right to voice their opinion. The fact that some DISAGREED with the way "Gwen" made her post is not the same as everything you aluded to in your post.

The way I see what you're trying to say is that anybody on a forum can say anything they like, and it's ok because she was "speaking her mind & giving a fair assessment" and so on. Apply that very same logic and thinking to the posters who took a dissenting view from Gwen's. How come THEY are not also allowed to "speak their mind" as she was?

When "Gwen" did, it's OK. When someone disagrees with her, then it's not?
I don't understand that & it doesn't seem fair either.

Bottom line is that most of the established members know that you have all kinds of people posting on forums. It belongs to none of us individually but it's all of ours equally. And that being said, you'll see that the members here police their own. Just because it is a forum for free speaking does not mean it should turn into "a free for all" where anything goes.

If that was a legitimate post from "Gwen", & she had legitimate concerns, then why weren't the questions that so many posed to her addressed by her? It was easy to see thru her initial post in this thread. Some just missed it.

I've posted something like 1480 times here. About 5 of those were difficult because I don't like writing harsh to anyone. But "stoning & slander"????
Where do you get that idea from? Who on AZB has ever suffered THAT???

As far as taking things personal if someone disagrees, where do you see THAT???

Your post was melodramatic in describing the minor fallout that "Gwen" brought upon herself from what SHE wrote as being near persecution. She wrote something controversial. She wanted a response. She got many. Some say what she wrote was negative, some say the response to her was negative.
The world still turns. 99% of us are still pals. What in the name of pooldom was the big deal here????

Actually Terry,

I have been a direct result of stoning and slander by the "peanut gallery" on here becasue I'm a non-conformist and speak my mind and quite frankly those select few do NOT like my kind, especially when it is directly related to my style of building and repairing cues because it effects those few "clowns"... it appears that "they" do NOT approve of my methods and out-of-the-box thinking with more than effective results !!!

I do NOT nor have ever considered myself better or worse than anyone else... just different !!!

And typically speaking.... some just aren't comfortable with change or things they simply do NOT understand or approve of !!!!!

But in the end.... the quality of my work speaks for itself ! and even though they may not want to agree with the truth, the have to accept it !!!!

I AM HERE TO STAY AND WILL MAKE A SEVERE IMPACT ON THE CUSTOM CUE PRICES AND MARKET WHETHER THEY LIKE IT OR NOT !

You're alright with me Terry... I enjoy reading your thoughtful detailed posts and I can definitely appreciate the lengty heartfelt respnses !!!!


Sincerely, Eddie Wheat
 
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I am not PC, Popular, but CONSISTANT...
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But I'm still popular right???

CocoboloCowboy said:
I am not PC, Popular, but CONSISTANT...
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Hey IMO I thought I was in the in crowd, now I'm so confused I might have to go to sleep. Let me know if I'm still alive when I wake. There are only 42 viewing. I must have somewhere else to go. Teehee...

I'm not even consistant. Damnation you know what a mighty.
 
Terry Ardeno said:
Bud,
Congratulations on saying in a few sentences what I couldn't say in a few hundred words.

As for 'cliques", the only time most of us even hear that word is when Cincyman butts in. He really sees cliques all over the place. Most of us, we just have friendships, & we tend to socialize or gravitate to those we feel closest to.

As for the greenies, I even give them out to people who aren't in my possee, er, I mean clique. They're just tokens of friendships is all they are, and none of us can have too many friends in life.

Nice post Bud!
YES and guess what!!!!!!!! I will butt in WHENEVER i WANT. Sorry i am not like you when someone makes a post. you say "oh great post" or
"wow great post" and guess what it is always to a "clique" member. I dont care what you think i speak my mind and i call bulls$$t when i see it. And i guess thats what makes people mad :eek: .

I am not a brown noser like vous, i do not care what the popular people think of me in hopes of them dropping a morsel out of thier pocket for me to pick up. I wish you people GOT IT. but you dont. I must be doing something right because everyone of you use my name in every fricking post you write now and it is quite funny you care and remember this much. I don't

So in closing quite using my name in your posts because i dont care as much as you apparently <----- from one cop to another:eek:
 
cincyman said:
...So in closing quite using my name in your posts because i dont care as much as you apparently <----- from one cop to another:eek:

Well, if I ever get arrested, I hope it's Terry that's arresting me and not you! :D

There is something to be said about do unto others as you would have others do unto you. My mother always told me it doesn't cost anything to be nice. :)

With that said, however, when in Rome, I do as the Romans do. Somehow I now have a vision of Nero playing his fiddle while watching this thread burn out. :eek:

JAM
 
JAM said:
Well, if I ever get arrested, I hope it's Terry that's arresting me and not you! :D

There is something to be said about do unto others as you would have others do unto you. My mother always told me it doesn't cost anything to be nice. :)

With that said, however, when in Rome, I do as the Romans do. Somehow I now have a vision of Nero playing his fiddle while watching this thread burn out. :eek:

JAM

JAM, they call that the "golden rule", right? Have you ever heard of the "platinum rule"? I just got done reading the book "social intelligence" for a class I was taking and it explained the platinum rule......

"Do unto others as they would like to be done unto."

It kinda makes sense if you think about it. I like to be joked around with. When I hang out I think it;s great when the insults are flying and the sarcasm is thick. I can't really treat others that way though, some people can't take it:D.
 
cincyman said:
YES and guess what!!!!!!!! I will butt in WHENEVER i WANT. Sorry i am not like you when someone makes a post. you say "oh great post" or
"wow great post" and guess what it is always to a "clique" member. I dont care what you think i speak my mind and i call bulls$$t when i see it. And i guess thats what makes people mad :eek: .

I am not a brown noser like vous, i do not care what the popular people think of me in hopes of them dropping a morsel out of thier pocket for me to pick up. I wish you people GOT IT. but you dont. I must be doing something right because everyone of you use my name in every fricking post you write now and it is quite funny you care and remember this much. I don't

So in closing quite using my name in your posts because i dont care as much as you apparently <----- from one cop to another:eek:

Listen, go get a Kleenex and wipe them tears away. Blow your nose and go to e-bay and try to bid on these two items...

1. "Hooked on Phonics" It's a course that teaches how to read & write.
2. "How to win friends & influence people" It's a book.

You start your stuff with DerekDisco, Fatboy, ect, etc. You pop up in my posts every once in a while with your sardonic & sarcastic ramblings about cliques. You remind me of one of them Cialis commercials, always interrupting when the time ain't right!

You got absolutely nothing to worry about, as you'll never have to worry about being in a clique. Nobody would have you hang around other than as a punching bag!:D

Many of us here have a nickname for you. Bet high it's not a nice one. We all know how you feel already. And guess what? Nobody cares.

No way you're a cop. One, anybody on your shift with any balls would have whipped your a$$ first for your bad attitude and then, just for the fun of it.
Second, no way you pass a psychological.

XOXOXO
 
Terry Ardeno said:
Listen, go get a Kleenex and wipe them tears away. Blow your nose and go to e-bay and try to bid on these two items...

1. "Hooked on Phonics" It's a course that teaches how to read & write.
2. "How to win friends & influence people" It's a book.

You start your stuff with DerekDisco, Fatboy, ect, etc. You pop up in my posts every once in a while with your sardonic & sarcastic ramblings about cliques. You remind me of one of them Cialis commercials, always interrupting when the time ain't right!

You got absolutely nothing to worry about, as you'll never have to worry about being in a clique. Nobody would have you hang around other than as a punching bag!:D

Many of us here have a nickname for you. Bet high it's not a nice one. We all know how you feel already. And guess what? Nobody cares.

No way you're a cop. One, anybody on your shift with any balls would have whipped your a$$ first for your bad attitude and then, just for the fun of it.
Second, no way you pass a psychological.

XOXOXO
First off, I start nothing, all i do is finish it. I offer my opinion and it is not the same as yours and the peoples whom a$$ you kiss. ( was that sentence ok for you) do you talk down to FB for his grammar and spelling----nope because you are a kiss a$$.

Sencond am i the only one sarcastic. if you look at my avatar i am like that because people get on tilt on these fourms and its funny:D i mean funny-- chill out its just the Internet --Jam:eek:

Third you yourself has said many times people come across different in real life than in writing which is true--- peolple make me laugh here with the way they kiss a$$ , i have too much pride to do that sorry if you dont.

I alos do not look up to pool players as some do here,, I do not get autographs or insistently talk about the ones i am friends with over and over and over and over---- who cares!!! most only talk to you in hopes of receiving something from you in the future.

5th i say what i feel and how i feel and do not care what YOU think , iI will say it again ITS JUST THE INTERnet.

I bet i read this forums before you and most of you here when it was actuall about POOL and not this bullcrap now. It was a great forum for info and help with your game and gambling action going on but now it has been taken over by whiners and wannabes.

Maybe i do have a bad attitude , so you better get back to restaurant detail.:cool:
 
I Wait With Bait On My Breath

I've been around these forums for a loooong time and I can pretty much follow what's being said and by whom, but I'm still a little lost in this thread.

Would someone (anyone) please take the time to divide the more recognized posters and the ones being pointed to in this thread, into goups for me.

I'd like a list of the groups of cliques. If there are half a dozen cliques, who are in each clique ? If there are a group of ass kissers, who's ass are they kissing and WHO ARE the ass kissers ? Who is NOT an ass kisser ? Who is NOT in a clique ?

I'm not trying to be funny or stir the pot, I just don't know who or what cincyman is referring to. I have no dislike of cincyman and he may be right on target, but please make a list of groups as an example.

Anyone can make the list of groups or cliques. Someone please enlighten me, so that I can follow along....

Doug
 
cincyman said:
there are none i am wrong

You crack me up!!:D:D

Why do you complain so much about other people? You have got to be the whiniest, drama-filled b***h on the forum. This is just plain comical.
 
easy-e said:
JAM, they call that the "golden rule", right? Have you ever heard of the "platinum rule"? I just got done reading the book "social intelligence" for a class I was taking and it explained the platinum rule......

"Do unto others as they would like to be done unto."

It kinda makes sense if you think about it. I like to be joked around with. When I hang out I think it;s great when the insults are flying and the sarcasm is thick. I can't really treat others that way though, some people can't take it:D.

George Bernard Shaw said:

"Do not do unto others as you would have them do unto you. Your tastes may not be the same."

The BDSM crowd agrees.:D
 
cincyman said:
...I alos do not look up to pool players as some do here,, I do not get autographs or insistently talk about the ones i am friends with over and over and over and over---- who cares!!! most only talk to you in hopes of receiving something from you in the future.

No wonder you have upset Terry, one of the nicest members of AzBilliards. You are deliberately attempting to cause havoc.

Terry Ardeno, don't waste your time on this egg. His words aren't worth the forum they are written on. :mad:

JAM
 
Smorgass Bored said:
....Someone please enlighten me, so that I can follow along....

Doug

It ain't worth being enlightened, Smorgie. In the words of a Ph.D. primate from RSB, I say PLONK the cincy man. :p

JAM
 
I very much doubt that cincyman is a cop. I know because I did police screening for many years and this is not the type of person highered by the better police departments. He is just giving cops a bad name.

If he is a cop, and I have no way of knowing, he is a bad one, and would not be accepted by most cops.:mad:
 
easy-e said:
JAM, they call that the "golden rule", right? Have you ever heard of the "platinum rule"? I just got done reading the book "social intelligence" for a class I was taking and it explained the platinum rule......

"Do unto others as they would like to be done unto."

It kinda makes sense if you think about it. I like to be joked around with. When I hang out I think it;s great when the insults are flying and the sarcasm is thick. I can't really treat others that way though, some people can't take it:D.

Yeah, but you're not travis trotter, the ultimate whipping boy. :D

JoeyA
 
easy-e said:
You crack me up!!:D:D

Why do you complain so much about other people? You have got to be the whiniest, drama-filled b***h on the forum. This is just plain comical.
Do unto others!!
 
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