Luxury said:I wish I was in the popular crowd. I sit at the uncool kid table.
Gwen's up said:Hey guys-
I'm a newly registered user but have been hanging around watching and viewing.
Finally, I decide I had to register just to express some opinions on things I see that I feel are very wrong.
My question is this, If this is supposed to be a forum on cues and cue building, why do I often feel as if I'm back in high school? There seem to be many cliques and a few "cool" kids...I mean guys, that can do no wrong.
For instance, I see guys posting gorgeous cues, great design, great craftsmanship, no glue lines, great points, awsome clear...practically flawless. 500 people look at it and only 10 say anything. Meanwhile, one of these big name guys post some "rent cue" and everyone goes wild over it...what's the deal??
Must be not everyone's cup of tea.For instance, I see guys posting gorgeous cues, great design, great craftsmanship, no glue lines, great points, awsome clear...practically flawless. 500 people look at it and only 10 say anything.
Must be flippers.Meanwhile, one of these big name guys post some "rent cue" and everyone goes wild over it...what's the deal??
We have alot of people who are lurkers and guest or just dont post,i mean you have people who have been on for over 3 or 4 years with 10 post tops.I do agree some stuff is a bit overrated like conversions but people like them and there seems to be a following.Gwen's up said:Hey guys-
For instance, I see guys posting gorgeous cues, great design, great craftsmanship, no glue lines, great points, awsome clear...practically flawless. 500 people look at it and only 10 say anything. Meanwhile, one of these big name guys post some "rent cue" and everyone goes wild over it...what's the deal??
Gwen's up said:Hey guys-
I'm a newly registered user but have been hanging around watching and viewing.
Finally, I decide I had to register just to express some opinions on things I see that I feel are very wrong.
My question is this, If this is supposed to be a forum on cues and cue building, why do I often feel as if I'm back in high school? There seem to be many cliques and a few "cool" kids...I mean guys, that can do no wrong.
For instance, I see guys posting gorgeous cues, great design, great craftsmanship, no glue lines, great points, awsome clear...practically flawless. 500 people look at it and only 10 say anything. Meanwhile, one of these big name guys post some "rent cue" and everyone goes wild over it...what's the deal??
GWEN ,, ( in my best lawyer voice) I SUBMIT exhibit A ( this post)Terry Ardeno said:And I may be "wrong", but I suspect you are an established poster here & have just made this new name.
Why do I suspect that? Your sign in name is "Gwen's up", which is a woman's name. For a woman to log onto AZB primarily to look at cues and cue BUILDING is surprising to me because I am not aware of very many women cue builders.
Also, what makes you think that this forum is any different than a slice of regular society? Everywhere in the world has groups of people who make friends & it's human nature to spend most of our time talking with & being friendly with those we know, trust & like. So, if a group of people get along with each other pretty well, respond to each others posts, PM's, etc., why would that be considered cliquish??? Why can't it be friends paling around? If a group of guys get together in a pool room to shoot, are they friends or a "clique"?
For someone "new", what makes you think that after 11 posts, everybody here knows you as well as those who have posted 3,000 - 7,000 times?
You sound or seem miffed that certain people get along really well here.
"New here" and cliques upset you.....right!![]()
You feel that something is "very wrong" with people getting along with those we feel closest to and like the most??? If you're that disappointed with this crowd here because certain people have their favorites, just like we all have our favorite people at work, school, church or any where else we go that we're familiar with, then something IS "very wrong."
If you are not already an established poster here and really are Gwen who is into cue building, that's beautiful!
Either way, old or new, I'll stand by the rest of my post.
I almost hit "submit reply" right there, but there's more....
Many of the posters here spend an hour or more a DAY reading & posting here. After thousands of hours here, the way I read your post, we should all be communists or whatever it is where everything is equaled out with everybody else? We're not supposed to be "cool" with those who have befriended us from day one???
See, we're friendly with those who are friendly BACK, not with the handful of misfits, whacko's or wannabeknowitalls who most of us ignore.
So, for you to be happy, YOU should tell ME who I should enjoy the most here. YOU should tell EVERYBODY here who we should or should not compliment, because according to your post, it's "very wrong" for someone to offer "praise" or "goes wild" over something that THEY think is worthy of such accolades. That doesn't make any sense to me. So, according to your logic, we should "go wild" over what YOU think we should "go wild over"?
How do you think the "big names" cuebuilders you groused about got to be "big names"??? Not by selling "rent-a-cues", that's for sure.
Of the 12,000 + members here, I can think of 5 who I personally don't like.
There's about 40 that I feel very close to. The rest are just basic people like me who enjoy the things of pooldom. For you to complain so strongly about "cliques" so early into your "new" time here is very surprising. That's not very typical of a brand new member here.
Lastly, then I got to go watch some Accu-Stats, everybody here can't get along the same way with everybody because everybody here doesn't know everybody the same way. And some we know wouldn't be the types we hang out with anywhere. Even in a pool room.
I don't know why, but your post hit a nerve or something in my head. Complaining so strong right out the gate? There's more there than you're letting on.
ericdraven said:if you are that girl in your avatar you can sit over here at the cool table.if you are a guy with that avatar and it is your wife or daughter or g/f forget this whole post
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JoeyInCali said:And I may be "wrong", but I suspect you are an established poster here & have just made this new name.
Why do I suspect that? Your sign in name is "Gwen's up", which is a woman's name. For a woman to log onto AZB primarily to look at cues and cue BUILDING is surprising to me because I am not aware of very many women cue builders.
You think he's a frustrated cuemaker?
ridewiththewind said:As has already been eloquently stated by Mr Ardeno, this forum, along with most other billiard forums on the net, are made of very diverse groups of people. It's bound to happen that some will gravitate towards one another, while others may repel.
Likewise with the 'rent cue' comment. Some people here are players, some are speculators, and some are collectors. Not everyone has the funds to spend big dollars on high end cues, or if they do, they just may not wish to. That's the beauty of having a large selection of cuemakers for one to seek out for that cue that is 'just right', for them, for whatever reason. What you may consider a 'rent cue'...may well be the 'be all, end all cue' for some. And some of these so-called 'rent cues' may well be from a maker that it is almost impossible to get any kind of cue from...and that their work is so well-respected that their level of craftsmanship is a marvel and appreciated in even the 'simpleist' of cue designs.
I have nothing against you personally, as I do not know you. But, if you are indeed new here, you may well be getting off on the wrong foot with many here.
To another poster who alluded to speaking one's mind here......I have never had an issue with speaking my mind here...EVER. Just have to understand that not everyone is going to agree with you, and you had better darn well have a good, concise, and UNEMOTIONAL rebuttal. If you expose any buttons, you can bet your bottom-dollar that at some point, they WILL get pushed.
Lisa
WheatCues said:Lisa, your last paragraph really hit home with me... that is so true and I know this from experience![]()
I know I need to take a step back "sometimes a couple" just to reread my posts out loud and see how they come accross...
But the sad reality is that we get lost sometimes trying to focus on the point we are trying to make that we forget that somene else has to interpret our sentiments and for passionate people like me who don't mine giving extensive details than can get really "sticky" more times than not !
So needless to say.... I have created alot of unneccessary red tape due to misinterpretations of my context becasue I don't look at what I post objectively....
Anyways, I think you made a really good point and I especially wanted emphasis the last paragraph !
Sincerely, Eddie Wheat
smokeandapancak said:This is a forum about cues and cue building????
I thought it was about pool , with sections dedicated to the above mentioned subjects.....
cincyman said:GWEN ,, ( in my best lawyer voice) I SUBMIT exhibit A ( this post)
Voila and you have your answer,,,,,, Enjoy the flames you receive with every post in the near future.
I personally suggest you start another acount and make a thread about SVB or post a nasty picture of a hooker from florida that you took a picture of!! that will get you a good rep.![]()
smokeandapancak said:This is a forum about cues and cue building????
I thought it was about pool , with sections dedicated to the above mentioned subjects.....