When to pin?
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What I like about installing the pin after the finish is I can reface the cue to get a nice sharp edge, but I have also wondered could this cause problems as far as having a truly square face or centered pin. I am glad to hear I am not the only one puttig the pin in after the finish.
A sharp edge instead of a contoured edge scare me.
I also install the pin after the cue has the finish work completely done. You can cut a clean face with the pin install and it all looks nice.
Bob Danielson
www.bdcuesandcomix.com
Bob Danielson
www.bdcuesandcomix.com
I've been installing the pin as the last step just before the finish. I don't see much of a down side to installing the pin after the finish if someone desires. I believe the cue would have to be drilled and threaded before the finish and the use of a carbide sanding mandrel would need to be used so that the shaft and joint would match after the finish has been applied.
If I get finish on a shaft or joint face I face that area after finishing but take off so little it makes not any affect on the joint/shaft fit. It does make the shaft joint fit transition a much nicer fit. When rubbing out the parts just going over the edge with a 1000 or 2000 grit paper lightly breaks this sharp edge.
Dick
If I get finish on a shaft or joint face I face that area after finishing but take off so little it makes not any affect on the joint/shaft fit. It does make the shaft joint fit transition a much nicer fit. When rubbing out the parts just going over the edge with a 1000 or 2000 grit paper lightly breaks this sharp edge.
Dick
> I'm really surprised at a lot of these answers,but saying any of you are wrong either.
What I thought was a better idea,turning off a center-drill hole in the pin apparently is not as foolproof as I originally thought,due to potential movement in the wood.
I always thought that a center-drill hole in wood was more likely to wear a little,where the same center-hole in a metal or composite pin wouldn't. Tommy D.
What I thought was a better idea,turning off a center-drill hole in the pin apparently is not as foolproof as I originally thought,due to potential movement in the wood.
I always thought that a center-drill hole in wood was more likely to wear a little,where the same center-hole in a metal or composite pin wouldn't. Tommy D.
I believe Sheldon has said it best.
If the face of the prong or butt cap is squared to the cue a center drill will make a nice drive point. With most hard woods the center will not waller out this hole to any degree. It may widen it slightly but that should be consistent over the entire center. There should be no ware to the center hole as their should be very little, if any slippage. One end is a bearing center and the other is a drive.
Dick
I agree, I don't want the cutting tool near my finished product. Rick
Why? If you have trouble cutting a finish then the cutter is to dull, the speed of the lathe is to fast or the finish or sealer is to brittle (if it chips) or not dry enough (if it tares (spelling)). I never square my wrap groove until the finish has been applied and rubbed out and ready to go. If a problem occurs while cutting I know I have a problem with the finish and wait or I re-do depending upon the circumstances.
Dick
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Yes yes yes.
A razor blade in a steady hand also works well for the wrap groove after finish.
I slightly ease the edge after facing with 1000 grit paper. If that is what you mean by a contoured edge.
> Isn't there also some potential for operator error as well in having to take several cuts on a butt and then hanging it,taking it down months later and having it not chucked up the same way as before and taking a cut?
Seems like that would sure as shit affect other things like point lengths. Tommy D..
Seems like that would sure as shit affect other things like point lengths. Tommy D..
In MY shop.......all joint work including the pin is done AFTER the cue is done being taper-turned. The cue will be a few thou. oversize to allow for final sanding with the collar and ring-work installed also.
Many years ago, I tried installing the pin before taper-turning just so I could learn from the procedure. I haven't done it since. I learned.
Others may feel that is the way to go for them and are having success. GREAT!!!!
My experience showed me too many reasons why it's not a good idea. For me anyway.
Many years ago, I tried installing the pin before taper-turning just so I could learn from the procedure. I haven't done it since. I learned.
Others may feel that is the way to go for them and are having success. GREAT!!!!
My experience showed me too many reasons why it's not a good idea. For me anyway.
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I was wondering the same thing!