Which aiming system you use and why?

[8pack]

And/or he actually DOES NOT USE the system he hyped for a decade.

Not sure what John uses but I think when he played Lou he was using it .

 

[lfigueroa]

If John's stroke was grade A his game would be a heck of a lot better. You cant blame a system when the stroke is failing a guy . Myself have battled stroke issues and it doesnt matter how well you aim if you cant get the cb ball there. When that happens you start playing scared...becomes a nightmare. You putting this on John is just silly.

And maybe that's why some things work for pros.

But who is a pro here? How many pros are buying DVDs and books? JB is an amateur player who has been around pool for decades and he can't make it work.

Lou Figueroa

 

[lfigueroa]

Not sure what John uses but I think when he played Lou he was using it .

He had just spent two days with Stan right before our match.

Lou Figueroa

 

[8pack]

And maybe that's why some things work for pros.

But who is a pro here? How many pros are buying DVDs and books? JB is an amateur player who has been around pool for decades and he can't make it work.

Lou Figueroa

It doesn't matter who you are ..we all wanna find that something that will improve our ability...give us an edge over the other guy. If there ever were a holy grail on dvd or in books...bet your a$$ we'd all be buying it.

 

[BC21]

It doesn't matter who you are ..we all wanna find that something that will improve our ability...give us an edge over the other guy. If there ever were a holy grail on dvd or in books...bet your a$$ we'd all be buying it.

True. So true... Everbody wants to be better, regardless of their current abilities. Even the pros looking for an edge against other pros would be checking/trying it out, especially if it was being touted as the Holy Grail of pool.
Even if there was no way to prove it would actually give them an edge, or make them anymore consist than they already are.

A lot of times it's all about confidence anyway, all about jumping on the next big idea that just might provide a little more confidence and therefore increase consistency, any edge over another player, like trying a revo shaft, or buying into the latest and greatest jump cues, etc....

 

[cookie man]

Let's say a person works hard and builds a business worth billions of dollars, a regular Steve Jobs.
And then a newly hired financial advisor gives him some good investment advice, and the billionaire makes several hundred thousand dollars off of it. Would you say or insinuate that the billionaire is a billionaire because of the advice he was given by his newly hired adviser? Certainly not, because the man was already a billionaire. There is no cause and effect here that would indicate the advisor had anything to do with the man becoming a billionaire. The man was already very wealthy.

But wouldn't the billionaire keep listening to the advisor? Good advice and he's making money right. He's not a billionaire because of the advice but it is helping him stay one.

 

[cookie man]

He had just spent two days with Stan right before our match.

Lou Figueroa

Yes he did. And he learned some new things from Stan that worked very well as he was practicing them. And he was excited. Problem was, he didn't leave himself enough time to practice them and get them ingrained. So naturally in the heat of battle his old habits showed up and it wasn't a very pretty picture.

 

[duckie]

True. So true... Everbody wants to be better, regardless of their current abilities. Even the pros looking for an edge against other pros would be checking/trying it out, especially if it was being touted as the Holy Grail of pool.
Even if there was no way to prove it would actually give them an edge, or make them anymore consist than they already are.

A lot of times it's all about confidence anyway, all about jumping on the next big idea that just might provide a little more confidence and therefore increase consistency, any edge over another player, like trying a revo shaft, or buying into the latest and greatest jump cues, etc....

There is only but one place to look to find the holy grail of pool......most people don’t look there.......

 

[duckie]

I came across this word.......proprioception........where your body parts are and what they are doing.

In other words........feel

Proprioception.....for further reading......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprioception

 

[8pack]

Yes he did. And he learned some new things from Stan that worked very well as he was practicing them. And he was excited. Problem was, he didn't leave himself enough time to practice them and get them ingrained. So naturally in the heat of battle his old habits showed up and it wasn't a very pretty picture.

That was a big stage they played on..both players.
I can't put all the blame on Johns stroke but it seemed like it was off. If that was the case , it would've took a lot of balls to play through that match, thinking in the back of your mind...i might be my own worst enemy. As far as learning knew things, probably not the best ideal to try something that you really haven't ingrained into your play.

 

[8pack]

There is only but one place to look to find the holy grail of pool......most people don’t look there.......

Are you actually saying we have golden arrows hiding somewhere?

 

[JoeyInCali]

That was a big stage they played on..both players.
I can't put all the blame on Johns stroke but it seemed like it was off. If that was the case , it would've took a lot of balls to play through that match, thinking in the back of your mind...i might be my own worst enemy. As far as learning knew things, probably not the best ideal to try something that you really haven't ingrained into your play.

Complicated system instead of a simple system that makes you see one line and commit to it .
Imho.
Don't make me post videos.
late, gotta make dust

 

[8pack]

Complicated system instead of a simple system that makes you see one line and commit to it .
Imho.
Don't make me post videos.
late, gotta make dust

Back of ball is just that...simple and one line.

Almost last on the list but by far the best connection.

Its easy peasy.

 

[BC21]

I came across this word.......proprioception........where your body parts are and what they are doing.

In other words........feel

Proprioception.....for further reading......

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proprioception

Yep....love that word. I've used it here before, brought the sound of crickets...lol. But that's a sense that every one of us uses to ensure our body is lined up with what we are seeing. We can't see the individual parts, so we have to feel, intuitively, that everything is in place.

 

[BC21]

There is only but one place to look to find the holy grail of pool......most people don’t look there.......

Wait....don't tell me.....

Is it....in our hearts? Lol

Seruously though...I am going to say on the pool table, from within yourself through dedicated work.

 

[BC21]

Let's say a person works hard and builds a business worth billions of dollars, a regular Steve Jobs.
And then a newly hired financial advisor gives him some good investment advice, and the billionaire makes several hundred thousand dollars off of it. Would you say or insinuate that the billionaire is a billionaire because of the advice he was given by his newly hired adviser? Certainly not, because the man was already a billionaire. There is no cause and effect here that would indicate the advisor had anything to do with the man becoming a billionaire. The man was already very wealthy.

But wouldn't the billionaire keep listening to the advisor? Good advice and he's making money right. He's not a billionaire because of the advice but it is helping him stay one.

Absolutely. :thumbup:

And the advisor can be proud and spread the word that he can make billionaires more wealthy, or help them retain their wealth, which rightfully so will attract more billionaires if they think the guy's ideas are worth the investment.

But if the advisor says to the average Joe, "Look at these billionaires, that's proof that my financial system works. And you too, Joey old pal, can be just like these guys. Just sign here...and here....and then...here."

The difference between average Joe and the billionaire clients, though the advisor fails to mention this important fact, is that the billionaires already have plenty of wealth to work with. It doesn't mean this financial wizard can't eventually make average Joe a billionaire over time. Just because it hasn't happened with any of his non-billionaire clients yet is no reason to believe it won't happen.

 

[lfigueroa]

Yes he did. And he learned some new things from Stan that worked very well as he was practicing them. And he was excited. Problem was, he didn't leave himself enough time to practice them and get them ingrained. So naturally in the heat of battle his old habits showed up and it wasn't a very pretty picture.

Baloney.

JB had been a student and advocate of CTE going back to RSB. What he got from Stan -- two day's worth -- should have just been icing on the cake. If John couldn't make it work, after years of study, what chance does the average Joe have?

Lou Figueroa
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[cookie man]

Absolutely. :thumbup:

And the advisor can be proud and spread the word that he can make billionaires more wealthy, or help them retain their wealth, which rightfully so will attract more billionaires if they think the guy's ideas are worth the investment.

But if the advisor says to the average Joe, "Look at these billionaires, that's proof that my financial system works. And you too, Joey old pal, can be just like these guys. Just sign here...and here....and then...here."

The difference between average Joe and the billionaire clients, though the advisor fails to mention this important fact, is that the billionaires already have plenty of wealth to work with. It doesn't mean this financial wizard can't eventually make average Joe a billionaire over time. Just because it hasn't happened with any of his non-billionaire clients yet is no reason to believe it won't happen.

Not everyone has the foundation to be a billionaire, but most everyone is happy for improving there way of life, even if that means taking advice from someone who has worked and helped billionaires.

 

[SpiderWebComm]

Absolutely. :thumbup:

And the advisor can be proud and spread the word that he can make billionaires more wealthy, or help them retain their wealth, which rightfully so will attract more billionaires if they think the guy's ideas are worth the investment.

But if the advisor says to the average Joe, "Look at these billionaires, that's proof that my financial system works. And you too, Joey old pal, can be just like these guys. Just sign here...and here....and then...here."

Why would an advisor who works with billionaires want to spend his time on an average Joe? He wouldn't! He'd pass it on down to an advisor who works with the average Joe. It's not worth his time.

The difference between average Joe and the billionaire clients, though the advisor fails to mention this important fact, is that the billionaires already have plenty of wealth to work with. It doesn't mean this financial wizard can't eventually make average Joe a billionaire over time.

What's the average Joe? Someone with a net worth of 3/4 million or under? He'll NEVER make him a billionaire. There are too many millions to earn before a billion. Depending on the age of average Joe, 3 million would be a great gain at retirement maybe only 2.

Just because it hasn't happened with any of his non-billionaire clients yet is no reason to believe it won't happen.

Right...miracles can happen. Or a genie. (another corny analogy)

 

[cookie man]

Baloney.

JB had been a student and advocate of CTE going back to RSB. What he got from Stan -- two day's worth -- should have just been icing on the cake. If John couldn't make it work, after years of study, what chance does the average Joe have?

Lou Figueroa
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squadoush

Bullshit. Everyone knows it takes time to get new things ingrained, and that was his first personal lesson. Have you seen what's going on with John, most average Joe's are nothing like him.
I've made it work. It took time but I've made it work just like numerous average Joe's as you have labeled us.

It's not always your way or the highway Lou.