Who is the best player???

Who is the best player??

  • the player who won the most tournments ever?

    Votes: 55 50.5%

  • the player who was the most popular?

    Votes: 2 1.8%

  • the player who missed the least?

    Votes: 12 11.0%

  • the player who got the most $$$?

    Votes: 40 36.7%
  • Total voters
    109
Fatboy

Fatboy

AzB Silver Member
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Just wondering what the general consesnis is on this topic.


i havent started a poll in along time so just for fun I thought this would be good, its a re-pete i'm sure but its been a while since it was discussed, it might be a dead horse-then again maybe not.


It was just in my head from a conversation the other day I had with a old school player. I am curious what the opinions are out there, as we have a wide varity of players here, league players, gamblers, tournment players, beginners, closet cases, etc. who knows??? So since we have different goals I thought opinions of what makes the best might be different and cool to discuss, for me as long as people are having fun playing pool then they win in my mind.
 
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I voted the first one and the guy that came from poverty, sleep on top of the table every night when he was a kid and became famous on his own game ...i think we know who I'm talking about :thumbup:
 
The Beginner said:
I voted the first one and the guy that came from poverty, sleep on top of the table every night when he was a kid and became famous on his own game ...i think we know who I'm talking about :thumbup:
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Efren???? yes we know that, i suppose this poll is useless then:( oh well next time i will do better.
 
The guy who wins the cash! Tournament formats are crazy. A race to 5 or whatever does not mean as much as a Bartrum type breaking them down for 2 days straight.



I'm an 80's kid, so IMO, Mike Sigel was the best. He could play for $ or win every tournament.

90's Johnny!
 
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Tough to say. The player who won the most pro tournaments are playing against champions all the time especially in major championships.

The money player isn't always playing against top players and are sometimes recieving or giving handicaps (which may or may not be adequate), so it is very difficult to rank players in this manner.
 
The Beginner said:
I voted the first one and the guy that came from poverty, sleep on top of the table every night when he was a kid and became famous on his own game ...i think we know who I'm talking about :thumbup:
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Thanks very much for the compliment. I really do appreciate the accolades, but I must say I think that guy Ephrem Rays might be even better than me.
 
In my opinion it's the big tournament winners that are truly and most verifiably the best. I'm not impressed when I hear how such and such a player spots the top pros for the cash and then you see them in tournaments and they never make the top 8. That's why I have incredible respect for players like Sigel, Mizerak, Archer, Souquet, Strickland etc. They came through when it mattered time and time again.
 
The tournament winner. As noted before, cash players arent necessarily playing high caliber opponents to win their cash.
Maybe someone knows for sure on his record of 100+ tournament wins being the highest.... but Im thinking that Sigel would be the best.
Chuck
 
if you are talking about pure proven ability...O'sullivan and Reyes can duke that one out...i

:thumbup: If you are nearby with cash and an attitude.... I am LOL..:thumbup:

the swiss tried to clock my speed... my runnout was so sweet....when they $hit themselves they called it chocolate......
 
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In every sport on earth, the best player is the one with the most major titles..... not the one who won the most gambling. Decades from now, the only person remembered is the one who has their name engraved on the most trophies.
 
I gotta go with tournaments as they will face the best talent day in and day out. Sigel is the man.
 
I don't think that just winning tournaments qualifies someone as "Best Ever", ie. Sigel. Back when he won all his tournaments, there were only a handful of solid players he has to contend with, and in tournament format, he may only play one or two other good players the whole tourney. I am not discrediting him, but Sigel lives close to me and I listen to him all the time proclaim to be the "Best in the Universe" forever..... uggg, gag.... Yeah, he could beat 3 other guys back when no one else was playing.

These days, and perhaps for the last 15 years or so, he cannot beat anyone. He uses all kinds of excuses to avoid playing in tourneys and gambling just so he can keep saying how great he is. Today, there are 5000 people who can beat him.
At least "ALL" of the other players from his era are still competing and being somewhat successful to this day.
 
Its very subjective and I think its a mix of them all. I went with tournament wins because its the only real way to level the playing field. When people match up, there is almost always a spot involved and a backer. So that is a hard thing to judge.

I would say Jeanette Lee has made more from being a pool player than anyone, ever... and she is not the greatest.

So really, it all comes back to the fact that "the best" is nothing more than an opinion.
 
Two extemely wealthy C players played a set of nine ball for $10,000,000. Shall we proclaim the winner pool's best player? Hmmmm, perhaps not. Many have made a decent living in action pool without having to beat the cream of the crop consistently.

Nobody has racked up major titles without beating the cream of the crop decisively and often. Do you have a nemesis among the elite players? You can avoid playing them if you're a gambler, but if you want to win major tournaments, you'll have to learn to beat them.

The great gambler is certainly to be admired, and is surely more colorful than the few in our sport's history who have mass-produced major titles over long careers, but winning the biggest tournaments means beatng world beater after world beater, which takes a far greater pedigree.

PS I'm sure the action players will be contacting me to find out the names of the two C players noted previously.
 
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I'd say SVB has the best plan. Take on all comers an sooner than later he will beat them all. With proper rest he is the best player at present imho. I love to watch this guy play.....................
Pinocchio
 
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Nobody has racked up major titles without beating the cream of the crop decisively and often. Do you have a nemesis among the elite players? You can avoid playing them if you're a gambler, but if you want to win major tournaments, you'll have to learn to beat them.

The great gambler is certainly to be admired, and is surely more colorful than the few in our sport's history who have mass-produced major titles over long careers, but winning the biggest tournaments means beatng world beater after world beater, which takes a far greater pedigree.
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What sjm said. Majors carry the most individual weight (albeit not the end all). They pit u against the best of that time on a level field. Yeah, you need to filter thru the caliber of the eras to subjectively compare "6 majors in the 70's vs 4 in the 90's", but it's as good as you're gonna get.
 
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