Who played 9ball... before Texas Express rules was the norm?

Mosconi ran the 526 on a big-bucket pocket 4x8. Didn't miss, said his feet hurt and stopped. Probably could have run 700 on that table if he'd kept shooting.

Cool story.. i have feet too and now i feel that much closer to him.
you know many words. Are people born pool players, or are they mede?
 
I would like to see the game played where if you called safe, and hooked me, I have to hit it and get a rail or I give up ball in hand. However, if you lucked into a hook, I could roll out.

This is excellent. I'm a fan of call-shot/call-safe but I think this may be even better.
 
Believe it or not. 9-Ball used to be illegal in Texas. They legalized it in the early 60's. Pool halls sprang up on every street corner. That's when everyone in Texas started playing 9-Ball. Sure wish we still played by the rules we started with. Back then if you Ducked and played a Safe, you would get your arms broke. No two shot shootout or ball in hand.
 
Believe it or not. 9-Ball used to be illegal in Texas. They legalized it in the early 60's. Pool halls sprang up on every street corner. That's when everyone in Texas started playing 9-Ball. Sure wish we still played by the rules we started with. Back then if you Ducked and played a Safe, you would get your arms broke. No two shot shootout or ball in hand.

You could always miss to duck , but just like in 8 ball proving somebody ducked could be troublesome .:wink:
 
Before the one-foul-ball-in-hand rules came out (TE rules), 9 ball was played where you could "roll out" on any shot, rather than just the first shot after the break. Your opponent could take the shot as is, or give it back to the shooter (whence he would have to make a legal hit, or it would be ball in hand anywhere). Any money balls would be spotted back up, if they went down early, until they were pocketed in turn. Other illegally pocketed balls typically would not be spotted up, unless it was the ball before the money.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com


Had to call banks , billiards and caroms ?
 
Mosconi ran the 526 on a big-bucket pocket 4x8. Didn't miss, said his feet hurt and stopped. Probably could have run 700 on that table if he'd kept shooting.

Well, here we go again...

It was a 4 x 8 with standard pockets for the time - about like the Diamond pockets of
the 90s - but tighter than the Gold Crowns of the 60s.

There was a 9ft in the room - but it was not a Brunswick, which he was obligated to play
on if one was available.

He missed shot 527.

He did run in the high 600s but quit because dinner was ready.

Dale
 
You could always miss to duck , but just like in 8 ball proving somebody ducked could be troublesome .:wink:

I played when it was best effort, to hit balls, only suckers came closer than a diamond to the ball.
If you tried to hit every ball and your opponent didn't, you didn't have much chance.
When the good players were done kicking, you were usually frozen on a rail somewhere with an impossible shot.
When two shot pushout started , it didn't do anything to the smart players, but it sent a lot of great ball makers that could cut the paint off the balls, out to find jobs.
 
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Well, here we go again...

It was a 4 x 8 with standard pockets for the time - about like the Diamond pockets of
the 90s - but tighter than the Gold Crowns of the 60s.

There was a 9ft in the room - but it was not a Brunswick, which he was obligated to play
on if one was available.

He missed shot 527.

He did run in the high 600s but quit because dinner was ready.

Dale
On a video he made in 1980 he says he got tired, not sore feet. Still, the "Man" himself said he didn't miss.
 
Did you play 9ball where an illegally pocketed ball was spotted?

Yes, I did. I also used to practice spot shots for hours on end, and I wasn't the only one in the room that did. When was the last time you saw that happening? Uh, right about shortly after Texas Express became dominant.
 
Yes, I did. I also used to practice spot shots for hours on end, and I wasn't the only one in the room that did. When was the last time you saw that happening? Uh, right about shortly after Texas Express became dominant.

Me and the guys I hung out with, would shoot spot shots for a buck a miss, like you said for hours. We even did it on a 12' snooker table from time to time.
 
On a video he made in 1980 he says he got tired, not sore feet. Still, the "Man" himself said he didn't miss.

In his autobiography, "Willie's Game," Willie (with co-author Stanley Cohen) writes: "I finally missed a difficult cut shot, but by that time I was weary; it was almost a relief to have it come to an end."
 
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I would like to see the game played where if you called safe, and hooked me, I have to hit it and get a rail or I give up ball in hand. However, if you lucked into a hook, I could roll out.


This is the way ALL games should migrate towards..(Call Safe / Call shot - ie one ball in a pocket). This is how we play American Rotation, except that because AMRO is a "point accumulated game" instead of having the option to roll out you can either shoot or pass back the shot to the 1st player. Much more fairer game than Simple Texas Express where anything goes an you get punished for other players BS Luck.

TE 9B has done enough Damage to Pool Action across the country. Risk Management has to become important at some point in life. Otherwise pool goes broke. Enough with 'piss in' game rules... Pool is hard enough.

Randy


Oh and no jump cues in AmRo... This would also help with Mosconi cup as well..
 
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Always pushed to a jump shot(full cue back then) then drilled it in when they gave it back. Jump cues are a joke.
 
I'm somewhat surprised by the number of posters in favor of the push out game. In the past it's been much more the opposite. The game is much harder to get good at than TE.
 
Me and the guys I hung out with, would shoot spot shots for a buck a miss, like you said for hours. We even did it on a 12' snooker table from time to time.

LOL, we gambled on them as well, usually a pot game. 6-8 guys, sometimes more, would each throw $1 - $5 into the pot. Best out of 15 shots (one rack), winner take all. It was decent action for high school in the 60's. ;)
 
2 shot roll out with no jump cues when i learned. It should be that way again. Makes for more strategy and a much more difficult game...
 
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