Who will win Archer / Strickland Match?

Mark, what is the cost going to be to see this live. Also, how many are you going to have room for live?
Punter, its the same price $25 for the two days total. If you would be coming from far away I will try and work out a goos rate at the hotel.
There will be enough room for VIP seating all around and its a big room but prob seat 100 comfy. I think we have already sold 50+ tickets and so when I get there we will see how many will be able to watch comfortable. I would say prob 100 max. I am sure people are waiting til the day of to decide what they have going on before they buy but looking good so far since we are still 2 weeks away. Let me know and I will reserve you a seat.
 
Are you kidding me dude??? You are supporting the biggest cry baby out there. It's sicking how good and how much talent that man has. He can beat anyone out there without sharking, *****ing, crying and throwing tantrums to his opponents and fans. If that's what you support and others support, i feel sorry for pool. Sorry for crying.



look Earl is who he is plain and simple, so what he does some things that some people don't approve of like voicing his opinions instead of conforming to the so called status quo

some of you need to lighten up and realize he's human with his flaws just like the rest of us, this "politically correct" crap is weak sauce seriouslly somebody say's something somebody disagrees with and here comes the high and mighty morality police

looks like alot of the hate is proportionate with the ammount of cheese lost this past week end

lol :thumbup:
 
I believe that it's on a 9' Diamond with 4 3/8" pockets.

Wrong Kimosabe: (from http://nycgrind.com/?p=14149 )

* Played on a Diamond Pro with 3 7/8 inch pockets.
* Race to 15 - 10-Ball
* Race to 15 - 8-Ball
Each rack won = 1 point in both games. Example Earl beats Johnny 15 to 10 in 8-Ball. Earl has 5 points.

* Straight pool race to 200.
Each 10 points = 1 point
Winner of the challenge will be determined by who has the most points accumulated over the three sets.

1) Break from the box, 8-Ball and 10-Ball.
2) Alt breaks.
3) Referee racks.
4) 30 Second shot clock - 40 second shot clock after the break. One 30 second time extension per rack per player.
5) Call Ball, call pocket unless obvious, call safety. (When a player calls a ball and does not pocket the ball in the pocket called, the opposing player has the option of shooting or making the other player continue to shoot)
6) No Jump cues.
7) all other rules are standard.
 
earl should dump a bag of lint on the table and then johnny will run the clock out picking it off. turn over. perfect shark.
 
Wrong Kimosabe: (from http://nycgrind.com/?p=14149 )

* Played on a Diamond Pro with 3 7/8 inch pockets.

Damn, straight pool on a table with pockets that tight? Jesus, that sounds more like torture than anything else. Don't think you'll see any super runs in that set.

10 ball and 8 ball I can see it going either way. I would find it hard to bet on one or the other, although with those tight pockets Earl seems to stick out a bit to me, but again, with those games I could see it going either way.

Straight pool, as much as I like Earl, I would have to say Johnny has the advantage. Unless Earl shoots way more straight pool than gets publicized. Johnny seems to show up at a lot of 14.1 tournaments and I can't remember even hearing of Earl shooting straight pool since that Maine Event thing back in like '98 or '99 or whenever it was. I'm sorry, in my opinion it takes more than being a great shot maker to play great straight pool. Regardless of how great I think Earl is I just don't think it's his game.
MULLY
 
This match will have a referee (Bill Stock) and a damn good one at that. None of Earl's hi-jinks will fly here and that makes a huge difference imo. The fact that it's on a traditional 9' table is also a plus for Johnny. But Earl is on a high now and he figures to make it tough at all games. Of course with Earl a complete blow-up is always possible. I didn't do such a good job of handicapping the last match and it cost me, but I'll take Johnny here if anyone wants action. You must either be on the good action list or be willing to post.
 
Earl's famous for how he handles perceived 'sharking' but you won't find a more polite opponent than Johnny. Even if he squashes earl's antics, Earl's unlikely to lose by losing it. A calm earl is pretty scary, so I'm not about to get out my wallet.
 
I bought the TAR20 and I probably will buy this PPV. I also bought into the mika vs ralf 10ball match a couple weeks ago and that was a borefest.

These Earl matches you definately get your money's worth.
 
Wrong Kimosabe: (from http://nycgrind.com/?p=14149 )

* Played on a Diamond Pro with 3 7/8 inch pockets.
* Race to 15 - 10-Ball
* Race to 15 - 8-Ball
Each rack won = 1 point in both games. Example Earl beats Johnny 15 to 10 in 8-Ball. Earl has 5 points.

* Straight pool race to 200.
Each 10 points = 1 point
Winner of the challenge will be determined by who has the most points accumulated over the three sets.

1) Break from the box, 8-Ball and 10-Ball.
2) Alt breaks.
3) Referee racks.
4) 30 Second shot clock - 40 second shot clock after the break. One 30 second time extension per rack per player.
5) Call Ball, call pocket unless obvious, call safety. (When a player calls a ball and does not pocket the ball in the pocket called, the opposing player has the option of shooting or making the other player continue to shoot)
6) No Jump cues.
7) all other rules are standard.

That tight of a table and a 30 second shot clock? This is a definate Strickalnd favored game. I am guessing after Earl winning against SVB Archer would have to think his chances are bleak.
 
Damn, straight pool on a table with pockets that tight? Jesus, that sounds more like torture than anything else. Don't think you'll see any super runs in that set.

10 ball and 8 ball I can see it going either way. I would find it hard to bet on one or the other, although with those tight pockets Earl seems to stick out a bit to me, but again, with those games I could see it going either way.

Straight pool, as much as I like Earl, I would have to say Johnny has the advantage. Unless Earl shoots way more straight pool than gets publicized. Johnny seems to show up at a lot of 14.1 tournaments and I can't remember even hearing of Earl shooting straight pool since that Maine Event thing back in like '98 or '99 or whenever it was. I'm sorry, in my opinion it takes more than being a great shot maker to play great straight pool. Regardless of how great I think Earl is I just don't think it's his game.
MULLY

I'm not so sure Archer has the advantage in straight pool. Earl has a high run in practice of 408 balls. He also won the high run prize at the 1999 National 14.1 Championship in NYC.
 
This table is tighter than a tick's ass soaking in frozen turpentine. 2 points:

1) This tight table plays into Earl's hands. He just played a huge match and expertly shot beebees into pin holes. 2) Johnny won't exhibit the quiet, calm personna of Shane. He's a bit more stable than Earl, and knows E's buttons.

The war of "who better gets under who's skin" plays into Johnny's hands.


This match is going to make the Earl/Shane match look like nursery school on xanax.


Bad blood will spill!!! Flip it and ship it!
 
That tight of a table and a 30 second shot clock? This is a definate Strickalnd favored game. I am guessing after Earl winning against SVB Archer would have to think his chances are bleak.

I'm really shocked that Archer agreed to a 30 second shot clock. Before I read that I thought that this match would be very close.....now however, I can't possibly see Earl losing.
 
This is heavily weighted to straight pool

Straight pool is the game that has the most lop-sided results of all, IMO.

A 200 to 40 score is not that unheard of. That's a 16 point swing and that's HUGE.

It' so huge - it wouldn't matter what they did in the other 2 disciplines.
 
Straight pool is the game that has the most lop-sided results of all, IMO.

A 200 to 40 score is not that unheard of. That's a 16 point swing and that's HUGE.

It' so huge - it wouldn't matter what they did in the other 2 disciplines.

That's true on a regular table, but with pockets this tight it will be a lot closer. Generally the tighter the pockets the closer the score in 14.1, assuming the contestants are fairly close in skill. No one is going to run 120 and out on a table this tight. I'll bet there will be a lot of runs in the 15-30 ball range.
 
Archer's biggest shark weapon against a guy like Earl, slow play, won't be available to him cuz of the shot clock. Should be interesting to see what he's got in his bag of tricks.
 
That's true on a regular table, but with pockets this tight it will be a lot closer. Generally the tighter the pockets the closer the score in 14.1, assuming the contestants are fairly close in skill. No one is going to run 120 and out on a table this tight. I'll bet there will be a lot of runs in the 15-30 ball range.


I hear what you're saying and agree to a point, but let me ask this:

Is a super tight table more a factor in straight - or in 10 or 8 ball?

I think it's not as big a factor in straight, most of the shots are far shorter shots. Play safe when wise and keep control nonetheless.
 
Straight pool is the game that has the most lop-sided results of all, IMO.

A 200 to 40 score is not that unheard of. That's a 16 point swing and that's HUGE.

It' so huge - it wouldn't matter what they did in the other 2 disciplines.

That score would be amazing on a table that has 3 7/8th pockets. I am doubting anyone is going to run above a 60 on a table like that.
 
I wouldn't be surprised if Archer and Strickland are working on a skit to keep themselves entertained for the duration of the match.

The play would go as follows, Strickland starts talking junk, Archer decides to pull out his secret weapons (line dancing country girls), Strickland counters back with (gun shooting cowboys) ... Strickland and Archer resolve their differences slowly with karaoke and air instrumentals ... however they air fight who should be the band leader and then day 2 of the matchup begins.

Day 2 would begin with the band fighting being settled with opposing player calling shots to be made, after regular banter about insane shots and ridiculous kicks or banks or jumps, Earl ups it by saying no extensions, no jump cues, and 2 second shot clock. Johnny responds in kind saying alright, in his country accent and ups the ante even more saying shots made one handed only. After the crowd becomes insanely bored at the lack of shots made, referees interfere and say guys just play pool ok no conditions. Earl and Johnny look at each and agree they "ain't no cowgirls" and decide to continue the match with conditions.

Then Earl decides after Johnny gets a groove to suggest playing "rap music" and pays someone off to bring in a headset and loudly play rap music. Johnny text messages his team and gets them to bring in female WPBA players all with beef on Earl. The final points are scored between a roar of WPBA anger at Earl and rap music.

Who wins? Johnny because one of the WPBA players get inside Earl's head and he breaks down on the game winning shot. what was said, find out...next week.
 
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