Why does this work?

[JB Cases]

I had a buddy come over and I showed this to him and he had bad results shooting it.

Then we played a couple of hours and every time I had a chance to shoot the shot I told him "Here's the shot" and I never missed a single one. Center pocket magic baby! At least 8 times.

So after he left I set up a curtain and shot a bunch of them. My potting rate was about 50% for the same shots. Not that great.

My conclusion?

The human mind is an amazing thing when it comes to pool. Things are going on we are not even remotely aware of when aiming pool shots.

Shooting balls into pockets although not possible to be 100% objective is still pretty cool with all the variables that exist.

This is the only post that I will respond to here. I just want to focus on one aspect of your experience. Your steps up to pulling the trigger were OBJECTIVE to you. I mean you laid out the instructions clearly and to you the process was clear and easy and you got good results.

That's been my point all along. If something is producing the results you want then the WHY isn't really needed. However IF you have the why then you can start building off of that to find what else works. Nothing about the physics involved is unknown to science. However, in order for science to really understand something it needs a lot of observation, dissection and data.

Yes the human mind is amazing for sure. It is really good at finding patterns and ways to make things work. Everything you do on a pool table has a mathematical reason even if we don't have the capability or willpower to figure out what that underlying math is. An aiming system could also be titled an Estimation Reduction Method.

 

[Dan White]

That's been my point all along. If something is producing the results you want then the WHY isn't really needed. However IF you have the why then you can start building off of that to find what else works. Nothing about the physics involved is unknown to science. However, in order for science to really understand something it needs a lot of observation, dissection and data.

I think you are familiar with my jelly bean aiming system, right? Put two jelly beans, purchased from my company for only $50 each, in your left pocket and then practice the shot making drills in my book for 2 hours a day for 6 months. Be sure to pat the jelly beans before each set of drills to reactivate the jelly bean mojo, aka JBM. In about 6 months of attentive practice using JBM you should really start to see the results. Everybody who uses JBM diligently gets better, guaranteed.

I've sold over 200 jelly beans to excited players. You're OK with that?

 

[JC]

This is the only post that I will respond to here. I just want to focus on one aspect of your experience. Your steps up to pulling the trigger were OBJECTIVE to you. I mean you laid out the instructions clearly and to you the process was clear and easy and you got good results.

That's been my point all along. If something is producing the results you want then the WHY isn't really needed. However IF you have the why then you can start building off of that to find what else works. Nothing about the physics involved is unknown to science. However, in order for science to really understand something it needs a lot of observation, dissection and data.

Yes the human mind is amazing for sure. It is really good at finding patterns and ways to make things work. Everything you do on a pool table has a mathematical reason even if we don't have the capability or willpower to figure out what that underlying math is. An aiming system could also be titled an Estimation Reduction Method.

I am quite certain the "magic" of what I was doing is akin to the "magic" of CTE. It was at least somewhat subjective as my testing proved, at least to myself. Probably no more or less subjective than any aiming system a human can execute reliably. But I would agree with your Estimation Reduction language for sure.

 

[336Robin]

I am quite certain the "magic" of what I was doing is akin to the "magic" of CTE. It was at least somewhat subjective as my testing proved, at least to myself. Probably no more or less subjective than any aiming system a human can execute reliably. But I would agree with your Estimation Reduction language for sure.

That is what all aiming techniques are. Find the one that speaks to you. If you don't understand what they are saying hit a few more
balls until you see it. When you do things the same every time they release their secrets and they are visual.

 

[BC21]

I think you are familiar with my jelly bean aiming system, right? Put two jelly beans, purchased from my company for only $50 each, in your left pocket and then practice the shot making drills in my book for 2 hours a day for 6 months. Be sure to pat the jelly beans before each set of drills to reactivate the jelly bean mojo, aka JBM. In about 6 months of attentive practice using JBM you should really start to see the results. Everybody who uses JBM diligently gets better, guaranteed.

I've sold over 200 jelly beans to excited players. You're OK with that?

Why not make it 4 jellybeans and increase your profit margin? A great marketing idea would be to hand out little bags of jellybeans to pro players, then snap a few pics of them actually holding the jellybean bags. Just a thought.

 

[Dan White]

Why not make it 4 jellybeans and increase your profit margin? A great marketing idea would be to hand out little bags of jellybeans to pro players, then snap a few pics of them actually holding the jellybean bags. Just a thought.

See, that's why you make the big bucks! Genius!

 

[Boxcar]

See, that's why you make the big bucks! Genius!

Would M & M's work just as well? Asking for a friend.

 

[Low500]

This is the only post that I will respond to here. I just want to focus on one aspect of your experience. Your steps up to pulling the trigger were OBJECTIVE to you. I mean you laid out the instructions clearly and to you the process was clear and easy and you got good results.

That's been my point all along. If something is producing the results you want then the WHY isn't really needed. However IF you have the why then you can start building off of that to find what else works. Nothing about the physics involved is unknown to science. However, in order for science to really understand something it needs a lot of observation, dissection and data.

Yes the human mind is amazing for sure. It is really good at finding patterns and ways to make things work. Everything you do on a pool table has a mathematical reason even if we don't have the capability or willpower to figure out what that underlying math is. An aiming system could also be titled an Estimation Reduction Method.

That's good thinking John Barton....(I been trying to tell the gripers that's all it is for years. But, they know "everything about everything" etc. etc., as you've seen).
Some of the gripers even agree that some of the Estimation Reduction Methods (aiming systems) even work. All of them other than OURS of course, since ours is nuts, goofy, snake oil, unscientific. and all that other bull they chatter about.
And genuine CTE users, working with advanced Hal Houle discoveries, have never claimed the system was anything other than an ESTIMATION REDUCTION METHOD. That's all it is, that's all it will ever be. Just like Poolology, 90-90, Little Chris' Thing, Ghost Baller, The Jelly Bean Method, The Fidget Method, The Buddy Hall method, The SVB Method, The Mosconi Method, or any other confounded "method" on the planet earth.
And like you, this is the only thing I will be posting in this thread. However, just watch as some of the usual whiners and gripers rip into me on this one. They thrive on it.....driven by Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

 

[Dan White]

Would M & M's work just as well? Asking for a friend.

I tried that but it doesn't work. The MM's melt before the mojo kicks in.

 

[Dan White]

And genuine CTE users, working with advanced Hal Houle discoveries, have never claimed the system was anything other than an ESTIMATION REDUCTION METHOD. That's all it is, that's all it will ever be. Just like Poolology, 90-90, Little Chris' Thing, Ghost Baller, The Jelly Bean Method, The Fidget Method, The Buddy Hall method, The SVB Method, The Mosconi Method, or any other confounded "method" on the planet earth.
And like you, this is the only thing I will be posting in this thread. However, just watch as some of the usual whiners and gripers rip into me on this one. They thrive on it.....driven by Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

You have no idea on that as you are new to the discussion. In the good old days Stan would have bitch slapped you for saying that.

 

[JoeyInCali]

You have no idea on that as you are new to the discussion. In the good old days Stan would have bitch slapped you for saying that.

He can't follow the script . Objective system is not an estimation system .
Low really needs to just quit .
He has no confidence in using the system but harps about it .
We can shoot spot shots for $100 a ball if he wants . I have monovision but I bet I can shoot straighter than he can.

 

[JC]

I am quite certain the "magic" of what I was doing is akin to the "magic" of CTE. It was at least somewhat subjective as my testing proved, at least to myself. Probably no more or less subjective than any aiming system a human can execute reliably. But I would agree with your Estimation Reduction language for sure.

They thrive on it.....driven by Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

 

[Patrick Johnson]

And genuine CTE users, working with advanced Hal Houle discoveries, have never claimed the system was anything other than an ESTIMATION REDUCTION METHOD.

lol

pj
chgo

 

[Boxcar]

They thrive on it.....driven by Obsessive Compulsive Disorder.

Coming from you..................PRICELESS!

 

[Dan White]

Coming from you..................PRICELESS!

Low suffers from a different kind of OCD - Old Crotchety Dementia. just kidding it just made a good joke

 

[JB Cases]

He can't follow the script . Objective system is not an estimation system .
Low really needs to just quit .
He has no confidence in using the system but harps about it .
We can shoot spot shots for $100 a ball if he wants . I have monovision but I bet I can shoot straighter than he can.

I will take you up on the spot shots. Doing it from the 30 degree objective half ball aim or from different points in the kitchen? either way I am good to go doing that with you. Live stream, split screen and go until one of quits? I am going in for eye surgery in an hour but when my eyes are healed and the vision is right we can do it if you want to go against me in the same challenge. I would suggest that we agree on at least a minimum of $500 before someone quits but I won't insist on it.

 

[Low500]

I will take you up on the spot shots. Doing it from the 30 degree objective half ball aim or from different points in the kitchen? either way I am good to go doing that with you. Live stream, split screen and go until one of quits? I am going in for eye surgery in an hour but when my eyes are healed and the vision is right we can do it if you want to go against me in the same challenge. I would suggest that we agree on at least a minimum of $500 before someone quits but I won't insist on it.

Good wishes to you with your surgery.
Can I have half your action if that spot shot contest ever happens...??
Don't count on it happening, though, he's like me....all "talk and no walk" because he doesn't play very good (like me also).
But I'm a great railbird though and somewhat of a lightweight backer, if I think I've got the lock.

 

[JoeyInCali]

I will take you up on the spot shots. Doing it from the 30 degree objective half ball aim or from different points in the kitchen? either way I am good to go doing that with you. Live stream, split screen and go until one of quits? I am going in for eye surgery in an hour but when my eyes are healed and the vision is right we can do it if you want to go against me in the same challenge. I would suggest that we agree on at least a minimum of $500 before someone quits but I won't insist on it.

So Low's CTE is worthless then? HE's A HUNDRED BALL RUNNER according to him. His game skyrocketed after taking lessons from Stan .
Wait, IF you're getting Lasik , I envy you ? Fkk, I wish I can get lasik.
I'll just play you a set of 9-ball for $500. No need for tv coverage . Please , we are not important people .
I'll try to get shooting glasses or contacts . Still won't be better than 20/40 vision and still have monovision.
Then again , you still have that huge rematch with Austin .
Btw, the first time I saw you play at HT, it was only my second year of playing. You were already easily on your second decade of playing . Maybe on your third decade .
And you definitely have played thousands and thousands more game than I have since.

PS , it would be great if you played dutch with Low against me .

 

[JoeyInCali]

Good wishes to you with your surgery.
Can I have half your action if that spot shot contest ever happens...??
Don't count on it happening, though, he's like me....all "talk and no walk" because he doesn't play very good (like me also).
But I'm a great railbird though and somewhat of a lightweight backer, if I think I've got the lock.

How about you get 100% of YOUR action ?

 

[JB Cases]

So Low's CTE is worthless then? HE's A HUNDRED BALL RUNNER according to him. His game skyrocketed after taking lessons from Stan .
Wait, IF you're getting Lasik , I envy you ? Fkk, I wish I can get lasik.
I'll just play you a set of 9-ball for $500. No need for tv coverage . Please , we are not important people .
I'll try to get shooting glasses or contacts . Still won't be better than 20/40 vision and still have monovision.
Then again , you still have that huge rematch with Austin .
Btw, the first time I saw you play at HT, it was only my second year of playing. You were already easily on your second decade of playing . Maybe on your third decade .
And you definitely have played thousands and thousands more game than I have since.

PS , it would be great if you played dutch with Low against me .

I can't speak for his skill level. I saw your challenge and am happy to do that with you. I will play you a $500 set as well. Me and cookie will play scotch against you and and any other knocker here. Anyone who posted in the thread knocking CTE priot to this post can be your partner against me and cookie.

I have no other matches planned so we can book it with you. IDK what Dave thinks so I am only signaling my willingness to partner with him.