Why I love pool

sixpack

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The other day I was driving back from a two day trip. I turned off of the highway in a small town in California with my legs getting stiff. I decided to pull off the highway and stretch my legs in either the first book store or pool hall I found. Thank god I found a pool hall first.

I got a table and started banging balls when an older gentleman comes up and asks if I'd like to play some. I pause for a second and he says "if you don't have time, that's okay." and I said, "No, I have time, I just don't have any money in my pocket, we'd need to play for fun."

"that's good with me" he says, I play for the love of the game more than money anyway.

He is about 70, wearing a straw hat and time has not been kind to his teeth. He was wearing a striped farm shirt with snaps for buttons and a grin from ear to ear.

We start out and he tells me about how he teaches folks sometimes. First shot at the table, he doesn't rest his bridge hand on the table, but plays a 3-rail safety perfectly. We keep playing and it's obvious he's not trying, but he's pulling off some amazing shots.

I tell my students to hold their hand like this he tells me. That's how I hold my hand, I think to myself, looking at my hand. No, he tells me, you hold it like this, demonstrating a position that if you weren't looking for the difference, you wouldn't see it.

This goes on and he gently corrects my fundamentals, I decide to override my defensiveness and listen for a change.

We have a delightful couple of hours, talking about the old times and playing pool, just playing. We're cheering each other on and allowing each other to set up shots to demonstrate some shot that we made to win a tournament or a gambling match. As I warmed up, he warmed up and before long, innings routinely included multiple games. There weren't many people in the joint, but over half of them were watching us play.

He told me about world records that he holds, Tournaments that he won at Hard Times. The time he beat the best snooker player in the world. The time he followed up a sixpack with a strong safety and then a 7-pack. The time he made 32 balls in 6 9-ball breaks. I told him about people I beat and tournaments that I won. None as impressive, but he listens just the same.

He told me that the universe is a great place and great people always come into his life. Words to live by I told him.

"You can tell people you played one of the all time greats" he told me. I didn't catch his name, but if he wasn't talking about pool, he was talking about pool companions.

Cheers,
Regas
 
Nice story. As you learned, the most enjoyable opponent is the one that plays for love of the game.

As you also learned, one of the joys of the game is to hook up with good veteran players that have seen it all and whose knowledge is off the charts. Most of them are happy to show you a thing or two if you show that your committed to learning.

The third thing you learned is pool is a game that you can play for a lifetime, which is just another reason to love it.

By the way, 70 years old, wearing a straw hat and a striped farm shirt, and playing jam up -- that guy would probably make a killing here in New York City.
 
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You played this guy for 2 hours and listen to how he ran all those racks and beat all those champs and you never got his name? I'll take your word for it but if someone were in the controversial mood they might call bs.
 
Ktown D said:
You played this guy for 2 hours and listen to how he ran all those racks and beat all those champs and you never got his name? I'll take your word for it but if someone were in the controversial mood they might call bs.

Yeah, I'd have been dying to know his name, possibly even get an autotgraph. Still, I believe this story, and am pleased to see it offered on the forum as evidence of what's right with pool. Sixpack had a very posititve experience over the green felt with an old-time player, was treated well, was given a few pointers, enjoyed the game, and wanted to share it.
 
Well, I read a very similar story a year or two ago on CCB or IP. It had the same elements, small un-named town out west, anonymous wonder player in bib overalls magically running racks. Neither poster asked the man's name nor the name of the town or pool hall. Since Vernon Elliott is no longer around, I'm going to have to confess to being skeptical.
 
Williebetmore said:
Since Vernon Elliott is no longer around, I'm going to have to confess to being skeptical.

Speaking of California old-timers, I've never seen Lou Butera in a straw hat, so I doubt it was him, either.

Seriously, though, if you read this story as "I met an old legend of the game and played him", the story may disappoint. If you read it as "I met an elderly getleman who used to play very serious pool far away from home and, because he did everything in his power to make me feel welcome, it left me with some good thoughts about pool," the story doesn't disappoint at all.

I choose to read is as the latter.
 
sjm said:
Speaking of California old-timers, I've never seen Lou Butera in a straw hat, so I doubt it was him, either.

Seriously, though, if you read this story as "I met an old legend of the game and played him", the story may disappoint. If you read it as "I met an elderly getleman who used to play very serious pool far away from home and, because he did everything in his power to make me feel welcome, it left me with some good thoughts about pool," the story doesn't disappoint at all.

I choose to read is as the latter.

SJM,
Yes, I was hoping to find the veracity in the story - but it was way too similar to the other post - a little too good to be true. Another interpretation could be that the poster has read "The Legend of Bagger Vance" one too many times. Just food for thought.

On the other hand, I did meet a guy once in a small Illinois town that liked his anonymity, was extremely knowledgeable and proficient at the game, who almost matched my enthusiasm for the game... Oh wait, that was you. Are you sure you really exist?? Time for more solipsist humor.
 
Williebetmore said:
SJM,
Yes, I was hoping to find the veracity in the story - but it was way too similar to the other post - a little too good to be true. Another interpretation could be that the poster has read "The Legend of Bagger Vance" one too many times. Just food for thought.

On the other hand, I did meet a guy once in a small Illinois town that liked his anonymity, was extremely knowledgeable and proficient at the game, who almost matched my enthusiasm for the game... Oh wait, that was you. Are you sure you really exist?? Time for more solipsist humor.

I didn't see or read the story that you reference.

I actually did get his name and I am willing to share it along with where I was, but I didn't want it on a public forum. Anybody who wants to know can pm me. I didn't want it on here because undoubtedly some people know him and I didn't want it to turn into a thread of 'he isn't that good' or anything like that.

Cheers,
Regas
 
sjm said:
Nice story. As you learned, the most enjoyable opponent is the one that plays for love of the game.

As you also learned, one of the joys of the game is to hook up with good veteran players that have seen it all and whose knowledge is off the charts. Most of them are happy to show you a thing or two if you show that your committed to learning.

The third thing you learned is pool is a game that you can play for a lifetime, which is just another reason to love it.

By the way, 70 years old, wearing a straw hat and a striped farm shirt, and playing jam up -- that guy would probably make a killing here in New York City.

I think maybe he already did :)
 
How did the investigation turn out?

SJM,
Yes, I was hoping to find the veracity in the story - but it was way too similar to the other post - a little too good to be true. Another interpretation could be that the poster has read "The Legend of Bagger Vance" one too many times. Just food for thought.

On the other hand, I did meet a guy once in a small Illinois town that liked his anonymity, was extremely knowledgeable and proficient at the game, who almost matched my enthusiasm for the game... Oh wait, that was you. Are you sure you really exist?? Time for more solipsist humor.

Hey Willie,

Just wondering how the investigation turned out. You asked me to pm you his name so you could 'check it out' and determine whether I was lying or not. I did so and haven't heard anything back.

Since the internet has changed some and folks don't mind being named on here, I stopped in Manteca and the gentleman's name was Art Perry. He's a nice guy, a great player and knows everyone around his area including Bucktooth and Kim Davenport. He also mentioned that he knew Tony Annigoni and Jay Helfert.

I don't have any idea how good he actually used to play, but I guarantee you he could still run out. In the time we played he ran out at least 3-4 racks from the break (his or mine). Of course in the Central Valley you're lucky if that will win you a beer at a cowboy bar.

~rc
 
The other day I was driving back from a two day trip. I turned off of the highway in a small town in California with my legs getting stiff. I decided to pull off the highway and stretch my legs in either the first book store or pool hall I found. Thank god I found a pool hall first.

I got a table and started banging balls when an older gentleman comes up and asks if I'd like to play some. I pause for a second and he says "if you don't have time, that's okay." and I said, "No, I have time, I just don't have any money in my pocket, we'd need to play for fun."

"that's good with me" he says, I play for the love of the game more than money anyway.

He is about 70, wearing a straw hat and time has not been kind to his teeth. He was wearing a striped farm shirt with snaps for buttons and a grin from ear to ear.

We start out and he tells me about how he teaches folks sometimes. First shot at the table, he doesn't rest his bridge hand on the table, but plays a 3-rail safety perfectly. We keep playing and it's obvious he's not trying, but he's pulling off some amazing shots.

I tell my students to hold their hand like this he tells me. That's how I hold my hand, I think to myself, looking at my hand. No, he tells me, you hold it like this, demonstrating a position that if you weren't looking for the difference, you wouldn't see it.

This goes on and he gently corrects my fundamentals, I decide to override my defensiveness and listen for a change.

We have a delightful couple of hours, talking about the old times and playing pool, just playing. We're cheering each other on and allowing each other to set up shots to demonstrate some shot that we made to win a tournament or a gambling match. As I warmed up, he warmed up and before long, innings routinely included multiple games. There weren't many people in the joint, but over half of them were watching us play.

He told me about world records that he holds, Tournaments that he won at Hard Times. The time he beat the best snooker player in the world. The time he followed up a sixpack with a strong safety and then a 7-pack. The time he made 32 balls in 6 9-ball breaks. I told him about people I beat and tournaments that I won. None as impressive, but he listens just the same.

He told me that the universe is a great place and great people always come into his life. Words to live by I told him.

"You can tell people you played one of the all time greats" he told me. I didn't catch his name, but if he wasn't talking about pool, he was talking about pool companions.

Cheers,
Regas

Great story. Thank you for sharing. Johnnyt
 
Why I Love Pool

I didn't see or read the story that you reference.

I actually did get his name and I am willing to share it along with where I was, but I didn't want it on a public forum. Anybody who wants to know can pm me. I didn't want it on here because undoubtedly some people know him and I didn't want it to turn into a thread of 'he isn't that good' or anything like that.

Cheers,
Regas


Good story Regas, a story like this is "why I love pool too!", a chance meeting of two people that just want to have a good game and enjoy themselves.

Playing pool doesn't always have to be about how much you won, or playing your best, it can be about telling stories and having a good laugh too.

I'm glad you got to meet someone that genuinely loved the game such as yourself, it's hard to do on the this road that we all travel, The Road of Life!


David Harcrow
 
Great story, regas. And, it sounds like it was an awesome time... you lucky dog! Rep to you.

Dave
 
az needs more posts like this.....and pool needs more players like your new friend in cali
 
az needs more posts like this.....and pool needs more players like your new friend in cali

When I was learning to ply 1 pocket I would ply most all the old timers just to see what i could pick. i shot pretty straight and ran balls pretty well but there is so much more to the game. I got into and put into too many situations where I had really no clue what to do.
I'm grateful so so many of the old timers who are willing to share knowledge and offer honest input. Most are quiet because today's young are so cynical and rude and make fun of them because they may not execute well in their latter years.
One old timer told me once he hated working with the youngsters today. I asked why and he said,"You can't get them to shut the hell up long enough to learn nothin"!
 
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