wood joints pin - carom billiards vs pool?

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I was recently in blatts billiards supply co in nyc, and i inquired about some carom cues that had wood joint pins. the man behind the counter who stated he only played carom basically said carom cues generally have wood joints, are superior instruments, and that pool players were basically ignorant fools. he had a ton of metal jointed cues in stock as well, which im sure he would have loved to have sold me. he then showed me the pool encyclopedia which he had written. which was a pretty impressive looking book.

just wondering what others opinions are on the difference between carom and pool equipment, why is a different cue needed? what is the benefit of the wooden joint in carom, and why wouldnt that be a benefit in pool?? or the other way around with a metal joint.
 
i build wood pin pool cues

the wood pin cues have a better feel to me, so i build wood pin cues.
chuckstarkeypoolcues.com
 
Whilst we're at it, can anyone tell me what the difference is between a pool cue and a pyramid cue - I believe it's a type of carom game?
 
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I could imagine that a pure wood pin is the easiest way of having a stabil and durable joint. All other pins like you see in pool cues are in principle made from a combination of different materials. These combinations are connected by threads and glues, and all connections have potential to loosen sometime.

Maybe in earlier years this could have been a reason for having wood pins at carom cues that have to take more dynamic load than a pool cue, especially at 3cushion. And the pool pins may have originated from the idea of cutting a onepiece-cue into two halfs and joining it together with an external, additional thread. And history took its way. But with today's available glues and techniques the differences maybe small.

When it goes about playability I think there may be differences in hit or feedback, but not more.

An advantage of an external thread system like used in most pool cues I see in the wood length that's needed for the shaft. The most solid wood pin you will have when shaft and pin are out of 1 piece of wood. This makes the raw material to be about 4 inch. longer.

But that's just my opinion.
 
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As long as the joint couples the butt and the shaft with enough tension that intemate contact is retained at the joint atr all stroke impacts, I can't see why one kind of joint would be usefully different than any other.

However, I do favor the ballance point on the cue to be further back, and little or no metal in the joint does this.
 
i think the wood pins are better for all pool games
when i first got on az i sold some wood pin cues,sneaky pete

i thought they played better than anything i ever saw

they play very lively,buy one if you can find one
you will not regret it
 
The Deano that I had was a very nice player.
Trust Chuck, the wood pin just has a great feel to them.

I dabble with the building but I am definitely going the wood pin route in the near future.
 
I got a Brunswick conversion with wood pin and no ferrule from Chuck Starkey last year. Great feel and Chuck is a good guy to deal with also.
 
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