Would you give helpful advice to your opponent during a match?

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ChrisBanks

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Suppose you are in the US Open, would you actively help your opponent if he is struggling, would you give him advice on a specific shot?

If you answer no, then why would you provide free advice online to players who are likely to be your opponents in future tournaments?

I am not arguing for one way or the other, I would just like to see how the argumentation plays out.
 
ChrisBanks said:
Suppose you are in the US Open, would you actively help your opponent if he is struggling, would you give him advice on a specific shot?

If you answer no, then why would you provide free advice online to players who are likely to be your opponents in future tournaments?

I am not arguing for one way or the other, I would just like to see how the argumentation plays out.
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No, unless they asked. Many would consider it sharking unless they are a ball banger, it could easily put you in the wrong situation. Online is completely different, personally I enjoy helping others.
 
At the Open, no. At that level, they're responsible for their own game. If it were a league, sure, I always try to be helpful, if it's receptive, and really don't have much to lose. Same for online. No big deal, glad to help.
:p
 
I'm not in the U.S. Open & I am certainly not likely to ever be there. But...to answer your question, the answer is yes. I do it all of the time. That being said, I did not do it until after the match when I was playing league, but that was because I had team mates. Therfore it was not my decision alone. I do not consider myself playing my opponent, I'm playing against myself with in the game.

Regards,
 
My opinion... while there are a lot of reasons for getting on here (news, tournament scheduiles, results, finding or watching action, etc), a lot of players get on here to learn more about the game from those who play it better.

So... NO, I would not give someone advice or help during a match, whether it be US Open or just a local tournament, but if they have a question on here I have the answer to, or even in the pool room, if they want help, I'll offer it. Never unsolicited, but will be happy to help if they ask.

Bob
 
RealLive said:
there isn't much logic to this thread...
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I think perhaps I didn't elaborate the intention of my question properly.

When it comes down to it, I am asking if you are willingly prepared to assist your opponent PRIOR to the match, but not DURING the match.

Will there be a difference?
 
i have done it on a local tourney trying to help a younger player. But the US OPEN um NOOOO
 
ChrisBanks said:
I think perhaps I didn't elaborate the intention of my question properly.

When it comes down to it, I am asking if you are willingly prepared to assist your opponent PRIOR to the match, but not DURING the match.

Will there be a difference?
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much better clarification. kinda like what ENGLISH! said, i would probably say something after the match but it also depends on the opponent (for example, a local acquaintance may be more receptive to advice before a match).

i don't give advice online since i'm an amateur and that's what the pros here are for
 
Due the re-framing of your premise, the answer is no, as it could be considered sharking. Which is just the opposite of 'helping'.
 
Ok, so I know a shot that my opponent doesn't know how to execute that well. Even if I told him, he'd still need to be able to execute at a fair rate to really be of serious use. It could just as easily result in them screwing up because they haven't practiced it.

There are big differences between local bar patrons and US Open players. The Open players could probably integrate the information more easily. The bar patrons may forget it in 15 minutes.

I've given myself to time-outs for my own opponents in APA when their big gun wasn't around. I think I even lost a match earlier this season to somebody who I did that for. No big deal. If I thought it was going to make a big difference, I probably wouldn't do it. If I don't think they should beat me, even with the help, it doesn't bother me in the least. The people that play even or higher don't really need/want my help.
 
ChrisBanks said:
Suppose you are in the US Open, would you actively help your opponent if he is struggling, would you give him advice on a specific shot?

If you answer no, then why would you provide free advice online to players who are likely to be your opponents in future tournaments?

I am not arguing for one way or the other, I would just like to see how the argumentation plays out.
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If they asked? Yes.

If they didn't ask? Not likely.





But that's in a tournament. I was never a tournament player. I was known to occasionally give my opponents valuable advice in money matches. That advice was "It's probably time to give up."

Sharking? No. They weren't at the table, we would be between games. If I knew I was about to clean their clock I figured it was only gentlemanly to inform them.


If a person asks advice during a game, I think it's only proper to give the best answer you can. Really. But only if they ask.



As for advice on this forum, I think it's a totally different situation.


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I did this once during my amateur boxing career. I wouldn't recommend it.
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"Hey man, you really should unload that powerful right hook of yours since I have a tendency to circle to my left."

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Absolutely.
If he asked me where the restrooms were I'd tell him the ladies room was down the hall and to the left. If he got huffy about it I'd tell him it was on the right.
Next question. :smile:
 
YES! If they look like they could use it. I have before and most deffinately will again! Helping others I find usually helps me.

best,

Justin
 
jhanso18 said:
YES! If they look like they could use it. I have before and most deffinately will again! Helping others I find usually helps me.

best,

Justin
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You've raised an interesting question in this discussion. Helping another helps you. So you are helping your opponent, but the end result is that it helps you more?
 
I have done this before although there's usually a pretty girl involved that doesn't stand a chance. I have made them aware of obvious safeties before
That's about the only situation though.
I don't cater to dudes lol
 
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At the open|? Hell no. Prob get told 'you got the 8 if you wanna bet a thousand, or stfu'.

I might be inclined to offer to tell the guy about something he did wrong after the match though.
 
havent read all your post or the replies...:embarrassed2:
but my answer is
ID NEVER HELP MY OPPONENT DURING BATTLE
 
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