WPA Bans 245 Players

asking the pro to pay them $500 after a 6-month ban is the icing on the cake
Jen, note that this payment is due not to WPA directly but to the national federation (which is under regional WPA member, like EPBF, ACBS, BCA). And everyone was informed about the outcome, so no hard feelings for those pros perhaps.
Or - like many times before, the pool players showed some arrogance and did not try to analyse the consequences. Time will show.
 
Good, about time. The WPA should have done this a year ago. We would not have had a wishy washy entire year. Now we can all move on.

Its like breaking up with a gf over the course of a year, going back and forth, vs breaking up, immediately leaving the state, and never seeing or talking with her again.
 
yea it could be that predator have their non-WC events unsanctioned. it would make sense
I just saw an ad on FB for a Predator event that promoted itself as un sanctioned. It might have been a mixed doubles event, so not a WC styled event. If I see it again I’ll post a photo.
 

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Actually it is MR to blame. They got offended their ranking for 9-ball was rejected by WPA as 'the one and only". and then all the bs started. The vassal wanted to become the king.
MR "owns" the "World" title/designation for "nineball", so their ranking should be the one and only. How someone effectively "owns" a sport is beyond me, but oh well.
 
What’s the WPA?
Watching Reyes Cup on Sky Sports, one of the commercials during the break is Christopher Ward watch brand. The ad ends with "Still never heard of us? - Do your research" :)

A little spoiler for your studies: this is the official governing body for pool and some adjacent games over the globe.
 
Prediction:

WPA will revoke their "indefinite lease" to MR for the 9 ball WC for breach of contract, of allowing banned players to play. 2025 will still be WPA sanctioned and run by MR, since they would not have "done anything wrong yet". Once they breach in 2025's event, it will be revoked. 2026 and beyond will be back in Doha.

MR will pull a Charlie Williams and keep having their own WC after that.

MR's version will have all the top players.
 
MR "owns" the "World" title/designation for "nineball", so their ranking should be the one and only. How someone effectively "owns" a sport is beyond me, but oh well.
This might be the way MR saw it also, and that is a big mistake. First, running a World Championship does not entitle that party to rule any kind of rankings. Next, MR's ranking system (as they have been implying everywhere like snooker and darts) sucks, let's put it straight. Had it been a mix of FargoRate multiplied by the result achieved and by the event's "power quotient" (like 30+ 800-and up rated players involved vs 10 or less of such makes a difference) - that would have been another story.

Frankly, had the WPA known in advance anything about the outcome of their deal to pass WC rights to Matchroom, I bet they would not give it a go.
 
Prediction:

WPA will revoke their "indefinite lease" to MR for the 9 ball WC for breach of contract, of allowing banned players to play. 2025 will still be WPA sanctioned and run by MR, since they would not have "done anything wrong yet". Once they breach in 2025's event, it will be revoked. 2026 and beyond will be back in Doha.

MR will pull a Charlie Williams and keep having their own WC after that.

MR's version will have all the top players.
Pretty plausible scenario. I on my own would be happy leaving "nineball" thing to MR and seeing 9-ball back. Played with 3-point rule or under a speedgun, as opposed to "I assume you are not doing it strong enough and please make a better try next time so that I am satisfied", etc.
 
Pretty plausible scenario. I on my own would be happy leaving "nineball" thing to MR and seeing 9-ball back. Played with 3-point rule or under a speedgun, as opposed to "I assume you are not doing it strong enough and please make a better try next time so that I am satisfied", etc.
That's not even a WPA rule. The WPA break rule is still officially the old BCA rule of either pocket 1 ball, or drive 4 numbered balls to the rail. They do offer clarity on what the 3 point rule means, but its not their official rule of how to break.

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That's not even a WPA rule. [...] The do offer clarity on what the 3 point rule means, but its not their official rule of how to break.
Correct, but 3pt rule has been the way 9-ball is broken for god knows how many years already, so kind of official to use. They don't enforce it in standardized rules because the rules are supposed to mention all the options (old "one on the spot" included), and the event producers decide on their own.
 
Prediction:

WPA will revoke their "indefinite lease" to MR for the 9 ball WC for breach of contract, of allowing banned players to play. 2025 will still be WPA sanctioned and run by MR, since they would not have "done anything wrong yet". Once they breach in 2025's event, it will be revoked. 2026 and beyond will be back in Doha.

MR will pull a Charlie Williams and keep having their own WC after that.

MR's version will have all the top players.
MR went through all this over 25 years ago when they put on competing World 9-Ball Championships with the WPA in the same year. The winner of the MR World Championship (Efren?) won $100,000 and the winner of the WPA World Championship (Nick Varner) won $15,000. That's when MR got the rights to use that name.

I've been around Pool for a very long time and here's my take on this. The WPA had decades to do something for professional pool and its players and they failed miserably. Their only goal seemed to be receiving sanctioning fees from the promoters who spent their time and money producing the events. The WPA failed to protect the players when they were not paid their "guaranteed" prize money in WPA sanctioned events. They only paid lip service to player complaints and in many cases sanctioned (and received money for doing so) from the same dubious promoters again for later events.

Now that the WPA is threatened by the success of Matchroom's WNT pro pool tour they are lashing out in the only way they can. Fedor just won 250K in a WNT tournament! Which way do you think he will be going? Other top players should follow his lead if they're smart. The WNT tourneys are well run, well executed, and offer good prize money.
 
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That’s a lot of players they don’t want!
I see it vice versa. That's the players who don't care about their WPA official status, ranking points. global events, world championships. These are the players who don't want WPA. Instead thay want Barry's $$$.
 
I see it vice versa. That's the players who don't care about their WPA official status, ranking points. global events, world championships. These are the players who don't want WPA. Instead thay want Barry's $$$.
They don't want Barry's money. They want Barry to make them stars, which will then get them portions of sponsor's and fan's money.
 
The pro players have had other opportunities in the past and shot themselves in the foot. [...] I just hope they don't do that again.
Jay, they are pool players. Special breed, they never learn it seems. I remember your story from the book about one of those great opportunities.

I've seen many talks about players' union and such. This, if ever happens, is going to be a single big foot and a very big gun. Guess what happens next :)
 
They don't want Barry's money. They want Barry to make them stars, which will then get them portions of sponsor's and fan's money.
As long as pool players have struggled financially for a long time, they of course want the dough. And they would follow everyone who promises them so. Do you recall Kevin Trudeau? That IPT was a beautiful story, but with unhappy ending enfortunately.

That's what Appleton was ranting about recently, about those prize funds wars. Proper event (and tour) is beyond just that.
 
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