Wrap Question

Brain71

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A cuemaker in North Carolina name Dennis Kepley does a unique irish linen wrap. He weaves 2 strands together and puts it on the cue. Presses it but not too flat. Makes for an awesome feel and looks amazing. Anyone ever hear of that? There's 2 locqal gentlemen here who have had it done but Dennis is not around too often anymore and i would like to see about having one put on.
 
I've done a couple like that. I like the different color schemes that can be produced.

Alan
 
If you have to twist the two different strands together as you lay down the linen, it must take FOREVER!!! I have trouble getting a single strand not to twist up and curl as I apply it.

Hopefully Ryan or Alan will chime in on how it's done, without "spilling the beans" completely.

Gary
 
If you have to twist the two different strands together as you lay down the linen, it must take FOREVER!!! I have trouble getting a single strand not to twist up and curl as I apply it.

Hopefully Ryan or Alan will chime in on how it's done, without "spilling the beans" completely.

Gary

I'd like to know how to do this as well.
Wouldn't you have to cut the channel deeper to accommodate a double thick linen?
 
I'd like to know how to do this as well.
Wouldn't you have to cut the channel deeper to accommodate a double thick linen?
You drill the starter hole on one side of the cue and another on the other side of the cue. Stick one color in one hole and the other color in the next hole. The wrap groove is the same depth as normal as you are laying the two strands of linen side by side. I have seen this done over the years, but never cared for the look much myself so I never bothered to master it. Think of a barber pole stripe. One color right beside the other color. You could do three or four colors if you wanted to. I think I would rotate the cue by hand as it might be hard to get all strands tight up against each other running it fast like a normal wrap. So I would think double or maybe even triple price charge would be appropiate to do this.
 
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You drill the starter hole on one side of the cue and another on the other side of the cue. Stick one color in one hole and the other color in the next hole. The wrap groove is the same depth as normal as you are laying the two strands of linen side by side. I have seen this done over the years, but never cared for the look much myself so I never bothered to master it. Think of a barber pole stripe. One color right beside the other color. You could do three or four colors if you wanted to.

That makes sense...
I prefer to wrap over more than drilling so I guess I won't start two color linens ;)
 
You drill the starter hole on one side of the cue and another on the other side of the cue. Stick one color in one hole and the other color in the next hole. The wrap groove is the same depth as normal as you are laying the two strands of linen side by side. I have seen this done over the years, but never cared for the look much myself so I never bothered to master it. Think of a barber pole stripe. One color right beside the other color. You could do three or four colors if you wanted to.

No not beside each other but two strands woven together. I imagine that if you press it enough you wouldn't have to make a deeper groove.
 
I've done a multi-color wrap using the wrap over technique. It was tricky to get it started but once you have it going it's not too bad.
 
I've done the double thread, white/blue and white/red to get a red white and blue wrap. Not hard, just takes 3 hands. Definitely worth a double charge.
Never did the twist, but I would think that you would have to cut a bit deeper. Linen only compresses so much. I'd be interested to hear how he twists it to keep the twist even.
 
If you have to twist the two different strands together as you lay down the linen, it must take FOREVER!!! I have trouble getting a single strand not to twist up and curl as I apply it.

Hopefully Ryan or Alan will chime in on how it's done, without "spilling the beans" completely.

Gary
Gary,
I have done the double wrap just as Chris described it. It helps if you can get another set of hands to make sure the linen feeds to you correctly. It can come in handy it you are wanting to use up the remainder of a linen roll and know it won't do a whole wrap. I have never charged extra for double wrapping mostly because on occasion I'm the one that suggested it. To the OP, I have never done the twisted wrap as you mentioned so I really can't elaborate on that.

Alan
 
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If you have to twist the two different strands together as you lay down the linen, it must take FOREVER!!! I have trouble getting a single strand not to twist up and curl as I apply it.

Hopefully Ryan or Alan will chime in on how it's done, without "spilling the beans" completely.

Gary

You might want to look into the possibilities of a tensioner.

Dale
 
One thought on twisting the linen, and I imagine that there is a better way to do it. Twist it together like the bow makers do when they are twisting sinew to make a bow string.

The tricky part would be that one would have to unravel 150' of both lines before the twisting began. That would surely cause a tangled mess.

Altho, there might be a way to do it before hand on two smaller spools.

The bow maker would take 2 strands of sinew, tie them to an eye hook that is screwed into a piece of wood. The other end would be tied to something as simple as a hook fashioned from a piece of coat hanger. The wire would be chucked into a drill chuck. Spin the drill.

Of course, like I mentioned, the bow maker is working with 2 much shorter pieces of sinew.

Figure out how to unwind 2 150" strands of linen and that might be one way. You could also wind them right off the two spools together but you'd
have to figure out how much line you have out and twisted together.

You could wind 2 - 150' pieces onto two smaller spools and then wind those together afterward.

Much hassle so would easily be at least 2 to 3 times the normal cost of a wrap as was stated previously.

Edit - See what happens when I start thinking. If you were to tie the other end, you would have to have a pretty long shop.

There might be a way of fashioning the drill chuck hook to be able to hook both pieces of linen close to the first eye hook. (An L shape) You'd then have to work backwards from the eyelet to the two spools.

Or better yet, call Cortland Line and ask them how the heck they do it. 250 K later. Hahaha.
 
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