wtf???????

RussPrince said:
Because when you do something wrong or illegal and don't fess up to it just because you weren't "caught" that makes you a grade A douche. Earl knew it, he's fessed up to doing that sort of thing more than once (after the fact of course in more of a boasting look at me im a big douche manner)

I don't think what Danny did was much better. He hid behind a technicality which is almost as bad. He knew he had a game losing hit, but shrugged it off.
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My point exactly. They both got out of trouble on a technicality. Both douchey moves, both had the rules on their side.
 
I would have waited on the next shot until he was in his backstroke and shouted "YOU ARE ON TWO FOULS".
 
Don't blame the player because you don't like the rule. Danny followed the rules
and the Ref backed him up because of that, as he should have.

If you don't like the rule and think it's stupid, that's one thing.
But to call Danny douchey for abiding by the rules is equally as...

Luckily not Danny or anyone else has to abide by your or anyone
else's opinion, only the rules.
 
I can see where this could cause an argument because the difference is subtle, but Harriman is absolutely correct on the rules, and to his credit, tried to inform the other player of the rules before it became a problem.

The language barrier is definitely one reason why 1) there should be refs at all international events, and 2) players should be fully aware of the rules before they start playing in tournaments.
 
itsfroze said:
Don't blame the player because you don't like the rule. Danny followed the rules
and the Ref backed him up because of that, as he should have.

If you don't like the rule and think it's stupid, that's one thing.
But to call Danny douchey for abiding by the rules is equally as...

Luckily not Danny or anyone else has to abide by your or anyone
else's opinion, only the rules.
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I'm just saying that it's possible to be unsportsmanlike and still follow the rules. If you disagree that's fine.
 
How is Danny being unsportsmanlike by telling his opponent you need to tell me
not now but when it's my turn that I'm on two fouls?

I agree you can be a bad sport and still be with in the rules.
I don't agree that this was the case here. So we sort of agree, sort of. :D


Ps. It's every players responsibility to know the rules it's not Danny's
responsibility to teach his opponent so he went above and beyond
by trying to explain it to him. Bet he knows the rules now
 
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itsfroze said:
Don't blame the player because you don't like the rule. Danny followed the rules
and the Ref backed him up because of that, as he should have.

If you don't like the rule and think it's stupid, that's one thing.
But to call Danny douchey for abiding by the rules is equally as...

Luckily not Danny or anyone else has to abide by your or anyone
else's opinion, only the rules.
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Nobody is calling Danny douchey because he followed the rules, people are calling him douchey because he's aquitted himself in a douche bag manner on several occasions including this one.
 
I think player's should police themselves. I always call fouls on myself, even if my opponent is in the bathroom at the time. I've called a 3 foul on myself before without ever being warned, because I knew that I did it. I wish everyone was that way.

I completely agree that Danny followed the wording of the rule to the letter, but I don't think he followed the spirit of the rule at all. I think he took advantage of the situation (even after trying to help his opponent).

Maybe I am letting my dislike for Danny sway me in my thought process here, but I'd like to think that I'd call SVB (whom I have a lot of respect for) a douche for doing the same thing in that situation. I hope he never lets me down like that.
 
On the other hand let's say the ref saw the player had on the wrong socks and disqualified the player. Are you in that instance going to call the Ref a douche
or unsportsmanlike. Because the Ref followed the rules, I wonder?
 
So under your premise I have to go in thinking that the rule that a player must be told
he is on two just prior to his turn is a BS rule to think Danny was unsportsmanlike.

The problem there you see is, I don't think that is a BS rule, therefor I also don't think
Danny was unsportsmanlike in knowing the rules and abiding by them.
 
The fact that Danny knows he's on two fouls has nothing to do with anything
that is the rule.
Unless his opponent tells him prior to shooting that he is on two fouls he is
not on two.
For the rule states if your not told you're on two fouls and foul again, then you
are now on two fouls.

Seems like people let their vision get clouded by the fact they don't like the rule.
Each player should know and abide by the rules, anything less would not be in
the spirit of the game.

In this thread I hear a lot of people in their posts use such words as:
lets see how that works

Well I think (I should be able to hit the second ball in the rack not the one)(on break)
or
In my opinion (if I don't have a shot on the 7 ball I should be able to shoot the 8 first)
or
In the spirit of the game (I should let my opponent not follow the rules so people don't call me a douche)

Luckily what everybody feels doesn't mean anything!

That's why there are rules so we don't have to sift through all the, I thinks,
in my opinion, the spirit of the game is what, in who's perspective.
 
itsfroze said:
The fact that Danny knows he's on two fouls has nothing to do with anything
that is the rule.
Unless his opponent tells him prior to shooting that he is on two fouls he is
not on two.
For the rule states if your not told you're on two fouls and foul again, then you
are now on two fouls.

Seems like people let their vision get clouded by the fact they don't like the rule.
Each player should know and abide by the rules, anything less would not be in
the spirit of the game.

In this thread I hear a lot of people in their posts use such words as:
lets see how that works

Well I think (I should be able to hit the second ball in the rack not the one)(on break)
or
In my opinion (if I don't have a shot on the 7 ball I should be able to shoot the 8 first)
or
In the spirit of the game (I should let my opponent not follow the rules so people don't call me a douche)

Luckily what everybody feels doesn't mean anything!

That's why there are rules so we don't have to sift through all the, I thinks,
in my opinion, the spirit of the game is what, in who's perspective.
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perhaps if angle shooting players like Danny wouldn't conduct themselves like this then pool might find it's way out of the gutter, but you're right well within the rules, lmao.
 
Maybe if more players just played by the rules (like Danny did) this thread wouldn't exist.
I'll bet his opponent knows the rules next time, just like he should have the first time!!!!!!!
 
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