Xiaoting Pan Bad Beat!!

IamCalvin06

IamCalvin06

Yang "The Son of Pool"
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I was watching the 2013 Amway Cup. XTP is playing a girl from Taipei with a monster stroke. Dont know what her name is but i was routing for this Taipei girl to win bc of her extra confident game.

XTP is down like 6-2 and climbs back to hill hill. She breaks and runs to the 6 ball and has to shoot over the 9. Ref calls foul and XTP can't believe it and ask for instant replay. Her shirt literally just looks at the 9. I mean its like the 9 reached up and touched her shirt it was so light of touch. 9 never moves but thats beside the point.

XTP idk what you're doin wrong in your life but i felt the pain on that one. I've never jumped ships that quickly. XTP i will pray for you!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94qEjsm_jiw

just skip to the last rack.
 
X Pan is still the queen of pool as far as the Chinese people are concerned. She's the one that started it all for her country. Johnnyt
 
Brutal indeed.... Also, Watch the girl dog the 8 for the set... She's almost shocked that she made it.... It was sitting all the way up on 3rd diamond, she pulls it right off rail at point of contact, bucket eats it right up....
 
man that sucks for her.

Those chinese pool arenas are nice. Looks like the match is air'ed on national TV there and probably has good viewership.
 
gxman said:
man that sucks for her.

Those chinese pool arenas are nice. Looks like the match is air'ed on national TV there and probably has good viewership.
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The Amway Cup is held in Taiwan, not China. Most of the past "Chinese" champions were products of the Taiwanese pro pool circuit: Chao, Yang, Wu.
 
Scott Lee said:
Actually it was Jennifer Chen years ago.

Scott Lee
http://poolknowledge.com
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I don't care too much personally, but for the sake of accuracy: Jennifer Chen hails from Taiwan; XTP from China. I think it's correct to say that they were the first to represent their respective countries on the international stage, but they are not from the same country (though one might say they are both ethnically Chinese).

-roger
 
I watched it on full-screen & I would say that (shadowy) video is inconclusive. I didn't see any deformation of her top & the ball certainly didn't move.
 
Johnnyt said:
X Pan is still the queen of pool as far as the Chinese people are concerned. She's the one that started it all for her country. Johnnyt
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This is correct. Xiaoting Pan was the first woman from mainland China to make a splash and win major titles on the international stage.

Jennifer Chen, though nicknamed the "China Doll," was Taiwanese.
 
Wow. That was close.

I'm not convinced the shirt touched the 9. I didn't see any compression of the fabric. The slow motion shows an almost 2 dimensional view as it all blacked out I guess due to the lighting. I think its possible the shirt could have been below the ball, but behind the ball instead of touching it.

That said, if its like many other sports, the ref's live decision would stand unless the instant replay conclusively showed otherwise.
 
I see this issue as a "letter of the law" vs. "spirit of the law" debate.

This appeared to be a foul under the letter of the law for "all ball fouls."

Still, if the ball was touched, it certainly was not moved. Some of the physics gurus on the forum would confirm that it takes more force than this to move (or even cause oscillation of) an object ball.

I'd allow the referees some judgment here. The spirit of the law here is to punish players that move a ball, not to penalize actions that have no perceptible consequences.
 
sjm said:
I see this issue as a "letter of the law" vs. "spirit of the law" debate.

This appeared to be a foul under the letter of the law for "all ball fouls."

Still, if the ball was touched, it certainly was not moved. Some of the physics gurus on the forum would confirm that it takes more force than this to move (or even cause oscillation of) an object ball.

I'd allow the referees some judgment here. The spirit of the law here is to punish players that move a ball, not to penalize actions that have no perceptible consequences.
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Well stated sjm. Johnnyt
 
I believe other tournaments play all ball fouls but the ball must move. I feel all tournaments should adopt that rule.


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