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I think this post is where the train derailed. Did Sparkles post violate the rules? Did Billiard About’s response violate the rules?

It is clear Matt’s did with the troll accusation. Sparkle’s is more subtle and can be viewed as an insult, so I think his treads on shaky ground, but nothing that would put it over the line.

It goes downhill from there.
There are a lot more individuals involved than that, Fred. There's also a 2nd thread.
 
And let us not forget about the written rules laid out my Mike in the Aiming Forum. They were posted in 2017 and remain today.
It has NEVER been enforced on those members who have free reign to say whatever they want negatively or disparagingly about Hal Houle, Stan Shuffett, CTE, Shishkabob, and students and users

MIKE POSTED:
OK, apparently this needs to be said again. I do not want to see anyone bashing another aiming system in any way.

If you have a positive experience with an aiming system, then feel free to post it. If you want to discuss the merits of an aiming system, then feel free. But for now, I don't want any comparisons as we all know that will just turn into bashing.

It is amazing to me that we have more reported posts about aiming systems than we do about politics.

This is going to be handled like baseball.

First offense will be a two week vacation.
Second offense will be a month.
Third will be a year.
 
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There are a lot more individuals involved than that, Fred. There's also a 2nd thread.
No doubt, but just pointing out since you quoted the rules that this is what happened on this thread that we're on now. I have great reading comprehension. I can see what happened. But this is how the first shots were fired on this thread. I don't need to guess on other threads.
 
No doubt, but just pointing out since you quoted the rules that this is what happened on this thread that we're on now. I have great reading comprehension. I can see what happened. But this is how the first shots were fired on this thread. I don't need to guess on other threads.
It did get started on the first page. Into the 2nd page it was full speed ahead like a drag race.
 
Look -- BA gives everybody else on this site the 7 and the Breaks in the obfuscation department. He will not answer a direct question, distorts all of his previous errors, and is flat-out deceptive in his responses. He does this all, while using the site to fish for students. Why anyone would defend him while lumping him in with reputable instructors, like those on this site or off -- like Stan Shufett is beyond me.

Clearly all instructors are not created equal.
 

I think this post is where the train derailed. Did Sparkles post violate the rules? Did Billiard About’s response violate the rules?

It is clear Matt’s did with the troll accusation. Sparkle’s is more subtle and can be viewed as an insult, so I think his treads on shaky ground, but nothing that would put it over the line.

It goes downhill from there.
Like when Fran wrote on this thread I'm mentally ill and need a psychiatrist? Would that fit the bill also?

Sparkle--even throughout this thread--is as subtle as a hand grenade.
 
Look -- BA gives everybody else on this site the 7 and the Breaks in the obfuscation department. He will not answer a direct question, distorts all of his previous errors, and is flat-out deceptive in his responses. He does this all, while using the site to fish for students. Why anyone would defend him while lumping him in with reputable instructors, like those on this site or off -- like Stan Shufett is beyond me.

Clearly all instructors are not created equal.
You must have missed where I just wrote I'll refund my fee to anyone disappointed by the clinic, and can sample my clinic notes here or on a different thread if people want to hear more, you know, so they can judge with true discernment.

News flash, with all the trolls lurking, AZ is an awful place to fish for students, I get more students from book sales, website articles, etc.

I come here to debate pool ideas and read and hear interesting pool ideas.
 
Like when Fran wrote I'm mentally ill and need a psychiatrist? Would that fit the bill also?

Sparkle--even throughout this thread--is as subtle as a hand grenade.
There are no innocent posters when the mud starts to get slung. But you need to own up your part in this. Or not. It’s your choice how you want to present yourself. It’s your choice how to deal with the fallout. It literally is your business.
 
Look -- BA gives everybody else on this site the 7 and the Breaks in the obfuscation department. He will not answer a direct question, distorts all of his previous errors, and is flat-out deceptive in his responses. He does this all, while using the site to fish for students. Why anyone would defend him while lumping him in with reputable instructors, like those on this site or off -- like Stan Shufett is beyond me.

Clearly all instructors are not created equal.
Watch yourself or you're going to be on a future hit list with the mere mention of the last name.
 
There are no innocent posters when the mud starts to get slung. But you need to own up your part in this. Or not. It’s your choice how you want to present yourself. It’s your choice how to deal with the fallout. It literally is your business.
I agree. For my part, I've moved in this thread from my very typical "why can't we get along?" to rebuking people who are behaving like, well . . . trolls. Again, I'm not accusing you of being a troll.

I will add when I ask people questions like "Why are you refusing to contact my student references?" and they respond with "Because you're a constant liar and should be banned!" I don't feel like my typical "why can't we get along?"
 
Look -- BA gives everybody else on this site the 7 and the Breaks in the obfuscation department. He will not answer a direct question, distorts all of his previous errors, and is flat-out deceptive in his responses. He does this all, while using the site to fish for students. Why anyone would defend him while lumping him in with reputable instructors, like those on this site or off -- like Stan Shufett is beyond me.

Clearly all instructors are not created equal.
I commend BA for being a good persistent salesman. A good salesman is always upbeat. Never says anything negative. Says everything that has to be said to make a sale. A good salesperson’s goal is to sell.
 
You must have missed where I just wrote I'll refund my fee to anyone disappointed by the clinic, and can sample my clinic notes here or on a different thread if people want to hear more, you know, so they can judge with true discernment.
Here's a challenge for you that you will not accept:

Since you won't post a video of any of your individual instruction other than the clip that's on Amazon, post a video in the Ghost Thread playing some racks of 9 ball. You could even do 7 ball if that's more your speed. Surely all of your knowledge could be used to run out some simple racks with ball in hand. Prove you can play a little and I'll shut up and go away.

I know you'll probably say you'll do it, but you won't.

I think I've seen every other instructor that's on here or mentioned here play -- except for you. Makes a person wonder.
 
I commend BA for being a good persistent salesman. A good salesman is always upbeat. Never says anything negative. Says everything that has to be said to make a sale. A good salesperson’s goal is to sell.
Change "sales" to "teach" and you've got my heartbeat clocked.
 
I agree. For my part, I've moved in this thread from my very typical "why can't we get along?" to rebuking people who are behaving like, well . . . trolls. Again, I'm not accusing you of being a troll.

I will add when I ask people questions like "Why are you refusing to contact my student references?" and they respond with "Because you're a constant liar and should be banned!" I don't feel like my typical "why can't we get along?"
Some of us have actually contacted your list of collaborators, and so far the few people who responded said they didn’t know you. In my opinion, you should do damage control and clarify those collaborations. Maybe those other well known instructors forgot they collaborated with you, or they didn’t realize you were behind the curtains of that collaboration. I dont feel comfortable repeating anything these folks have said to me in private, but I think it’s evident there is miscommunication on your list as to what the collaborative level has been.

Either way, you’re a big boy. You know how these forums are. There will always be questioners, critics and challengers. Welcome to life. You’ve been called out on some questionable statements. How you respond is up to you. It’s not like the forums will change.

Just my unsolicited advice from an industry member.
 
Here's a challenge for you that you will not accept:

Since you won't post a video of any of your individual instruction other than the clip that's on Amazon, post a video in the Ghost Thread playing some racks of 9 ball. You could even do 7 ball if that's more your speed. Surely all of your knowledge could be used to run out some simple racks with ball in hand. Prove you can play a little and I'll shut up and go away.

I know you'll probably say you'll do it, but you won't.

I think I've seen every other instructor that's on here or mentioned here play -- except for you. Makes a person wonder.
Seriously, I've not been to the ghost thread or knew such existed. I come to the first page/front page of the Main Forum, Aiming Conversation, and Ask The Instructor, and that's about it. (I'm sure you believe me.)

"Prove you can play a little and I'll shut up and go away."

No, you won't. You're here to stay, you just wrote two posts ago you don't want to stop posting about me, you know, to protect the free world from free pool lessons.

I play tonight and was going to record video, but because you asked, I won't. The more so since you took a dump on my promo video where I do a trick break and then a lovely break, a really sweet 8-Ball break, while talking to the camera. How do you like those apples, Mr. Bond?
 
Some of us have actually contacted your list of collaborators, and so far the few people who responded said they didn’t know you. In my opinion, you should do damage control and clarify those collaborations. Maybe those other well known instructors forgot they collaborated with you, or they didn’t realize you were behind the curtains of that collaboration. I dont feel comfortable repeating anything these folks have said to me in private, but I think it’s evident there is miscommunication on your list as to what the collaborative level has been.

Either way, you’re a big boy. You know how these forums are. There will always be questioners, critics and challengers. Welcome to life. You’ve been called out on some questionable statements. How you respond is up to you. It’s not like the forums will change.

Just my unsolicited advice from an industry member.
I agree. The forums are what they are, and sincerity (any emotion, really) comes across poorly on a text forum, as we all know.

Tony Robles was paid by my company to be my shot demonstrator. Fran never asked him that, she must have sent a one sentence, "You know a guy named Matt Sherman?" and AFTER the SECOND time she claimed I lied, I set her straight... soon enough she said I had mental problems, a disgraceful, distasteful statement to make when people at AZ and loved ones actually struggle through mental illness.

I posted (at AZ, I've never posted such elsewhere) that Tony worked with me, which sounds nicer than he worked for me.

I apologized and recanted/clarified about Max Eberle above, and hope you read that response.
 
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