skor said:

In a gambling match, most likely the gambler will win.
In a pro tournament, the athlete will win.
As mentioned, Mosconi was probably the greatest non gambler.
A lot of players claim that they don’t gamble, I doubt how true they are.
I wonder if Filer gambles, he has the pure athletic mentality but who knows… if he doesn’t gamble, then he is the best

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I’ve seen Filler in the box against Chang JL

skogstokig said:

yes, and i think he would gamble a lot more were he not to be in the finals of events so often. last year he was gonna play lunda 1p for 10 or 20k but it fell through because of the 9b tournament. and of course he won that 9b banner.

thorsten is a good answer though. i don't think i've ever heard of him playing a money match, and he's among americans so much he became one

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They had challenge stuff on Roy's Basement; Pia too. I suspect Hohman on the other hand gets bigger thrills at his day job.

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skor said:

I doubt that these is an American that can win it on paper. Even SVB seems to lose his top game and l don’t consider Fedor as American either, but anything can happen with the luck of the draw and who signs up for the event.

The US Open used to be a big deal, the second biggest and important tournament after the world 9ball. Now they are both just another WNT major points in the tour. So any major that will be won by an American will be the same achievement, yet I can’t see it happening.

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it's 100k for first place now, i think. i wouldn't say that's just another event. and shane was in the final in 2024..

vintagecollectibles831 said:

There was a 2nd part to my post, if you cared to read it.

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I doubt that these is an American that can win it on paper. Even SVB seems to lose his top game and l don’t consider Fedor as American either, but anything can happen with the luck of the draw and who signs up for the event.

The US Open used to be a big deal, the second biggest and important tournament after the world 9ball. Now they are both just another WNT major points in the tour. So any major that will be won by an American will be the same achievement, yet I can’t see it happening.

skogstokig said:

is there a filipino player that doesn't gamble?

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No chance. Being staked by backers is the only way young Pinoys can afford cues, table time, food etc. Plus it’s just a huge part of their culture.

Although it also raises the question of what is meant by “gamble”. Do they play in gambling matches, for sure. Do they actually gamble their own money? That’s a very different question.

is there a filipino player that doesn't gamble?

joelpope said:

I have seen Filler gamble @ Derby

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yes, and i think he would gamble a lot more were he not to be in the finals of events so often. last year he was gonna play lunda 1p for 10 or 20k but it fell through because of the 9b tournament. and of course he won that 9b banner.

thorsten is a good answer though. i don't think i've ever heard of him playing a money match, and he's among americans so much he became one

Bob Jewett said:

Well, it was a single challenge match, but Willie Hoppe said he won over $50,000 when he beat Vignaux in 1906. With inflation, that's more than $1.8 million.

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balkline?