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Yapp’s Controversial Tournament-Winning Shot in the 8-Ball World Championship … Was it a Foul?

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Bob Jewett said:
The phrase is apparently a modern paraphrase. It slips off the tongue. What Hamilton apparently did say does not slip so well. The source of the paraphrase appears to be, in part:

All communities divide themselves into the few and the many. The first are the rich and well born, the other the mass of the people.... The people are turbulent and changing; they seldom judge or determine right. Give therefore to the first class a distinct, permanent share in the government. They will check the unsteadiness of the second, and as they cannot receive any advantage by change, they therefore will ever maintain good government.

-- Alexander Hamilton
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Lots of founders shared such sentiments, as I noted earlier, Bob, but the "masses are asses" is quite a ... "paraphrase" of the longer Hamilton remarks you referenced! 😎

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I am amazed at how fired up AZB posters are about the Yapp shot.

Personally I don't think any player should call a foul on himself with a ref present unless it is extremely obvious and the ref somehow misses it ( a playing touching a CB with his tip prematurely, etc). I don't think I would even allow it if I were a governing authority.

Players should not be expected to have DrDave level of scientific knowledge of CB reactions. Others here disagree, and I respect that. I just don't like the attacks on Yapp's integrity as if he's a untrustworthy or immoral player.
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Reasonably priced, fairly cheap, vintage cues with the most amazing hitting shaft wood?

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I was just thinking about White Label Joss cues, and from what I have seen, they have some really amazing shaft wood in them.

For anyone who has ever played with a White Label Joss, from earth early 80's, you might understand what I am talking about.

These are cues that when they do come available, are fairly cheap, for some reason.

Another cue is a lot of Huebler cues that I have seen. You can tell by the rings going through the shaft wood. Age related rings, I assume?

Anyways, everyone I get a cue that has those really nice rings going through the shaft, I felt that it hit so amazing.

A Kikel that I had was another example, but lol, Kikel cues can't be had for very cheap. Not for me anyways. Really miss that Kikel though. It hit so amazing.

Do you guys know of any other brands, or cue makers who are known to have put really amazing hitting shaft wood in their cues? That can also be had for a reasonable price, if not too saught after?

I just love the look of that old shaft wood, with rings going through it, and felt that they hit so nice, in my experience.

Vintage cues can be pretty rare though, so it is not like you can come across one on any day of the week, for a good price.

I added pictures of a few examples of a 80's era White Label Joss, and an 80's era Huebler, that appears to have the type of wood that I have really loved the hit of, in my experience.

Do you notice the wavy rings in the shaft wood? Growth rings? I am not sure. These shafts hit super nice though, in my experience. I know they do not have the power of the latest tech shafts, but the feel of the hit, and the feedback that they offer, is just so nice, in my opinion.

Anyways, thanks for any thoughts.
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Do I really NEED a $10k table?

KAP1976
tim913 said:
And don’t forget the …
- 5k cue, and then add the custom shaft
- $30 chalk
- $30 tip
- $500 set of balls
- Simonis 860 HR cloth
- Perimeter lighting
- $700 case
- Separate jump and breaks cues
- A measles CB
- A few gloves

You’re really going to need two tables in case one doesn’t break right and and the mandatory 4” pockets
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You need the Diamond table to prep for the WNT events (that you won't play in) and the Predator table for PBS events (that you also won't play in).
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Yapp’s Controversial Tournament-Winning Shot in the 8-Ball World Championship … Was it a Foul?

Island Drive
skogstokig said:
players that are at the top or dominating for the moment will be under more scrutiny. svb, filler and kaci have had their accusations of dishonesty, whether it's been pattern racking or touch fouls. i think it comes with the territory.

i don't think yapp is dishonest.
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Agreed, but I think he knew which ball he contacted first. If he'd of picked up the cb and handed to his opponent.... that would Speak loudly to mankind.
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