skor said:

Again, I think the guy in the video is holding a different cue that goes for a lot less.
There are a handful of JFlowers cues that actually described having real inlays.
And again, the point is that overlay just look real these days and only the price point is a giveaway.
Also look at Rhino, it's all overlay and looks darn good

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Rhino, established in 2013, is a brand under Carbon Billiards Vietnam—a Vietnamese startup specializing in the research and production of billiard products using composite fiber materials.

rhino-billiards.com

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point taken. rhino is cf butt so decal makes sense i guess.

This is YOUR life, YOUR story. You should enter a WNT event when you want to enter one. Right now, it appears registration is still open for the US Open. I think everyone should support pool and play as much as possible. Don't wait. Don't deny yourself the chance to have this experience until you're worthy. Just do it.

skor said:

Again, I think the guy in the video is holding a different cue that goes for a lot less.
There are a handful of JFlowers cues that actually described having real inlays.
And again, the point is that overlay just look real these days and only the price point is a giveaway.
Also look at Rhino, it's all overlay and looks darn good

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Rhino, established in 2013, is a brand under Carbon Billiards Vietnam—a Vietnamese startup specializing in the research and production of billiard products using composite fiber materials.

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Do you believe that all of the cue companies from China are doing it, no matter the price?

Wow, Cuetec charges a lot of money for their Truewood Series, and in their marketing, they use this marketing wording, "every Truewood series cue is enveloped in exotic veneers surrounding a kiln-dried Canadian Maple core". Does not sound like true wood to me, lol.

gregcantrall said:

The letter of the law vs the spirit of the law.
When before the Judge my explanation of the circumstances got, Guilty, one dollar next. So he followed the Letter but also recognized The Spirit.
I personally developed the habit of calling everything as a comic self state mint just barely audible. To cover the Nits. I encountered one that claimed uncalled 8 ball. When rounding the table after survey I tapped the corner and said, "right here". I guess to satisfy him I would have called the pocket sweetheart before the shot rather than after. . His plea to the tournament director was diss missed.

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Laz was right both in letter and spirit. The adjacent rail to the intended pocket does not constitute a kick.

gregcantrall said:

Trying to be happy for the weaker player that defeated me was a real challenge. The $5 tournament first round. I expected to cash and the youngster was aware of my reputation. I kept a stiff upper lip at the handshake as I had missed a simple shot. Grrrr...He stepped inside my extended hand and....HUGGED ME! eek. It brought me out of my deepest funk and forced a Smile ☺.

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We need a YIKES! emoticon. I used to work in a group of huggers, fortunately women! They would give big hugs every morning like they were worried everyone might have died since five o'clock yesterday.

Hu

Berber,

To be blunt, after twenty years of knowing scooter or knowing the pool world you sure as hell should have known better! I have to admit that I spent decades in the pool halls and bars and always enjoyed the con men and hustlers, large and small. I never loaned any of them a dime. I either gave them a bit or told them sorry. Loans piss me off because I have an expectation of being paid back.

Contrary to some, I have found a lot more honest people in pool halls and bars than I have found in churches or bible classes. Might be some indication of where I spend my time but I have owned over a dozen businesses. When someone comes and starts telling me what a good christian they are I put one hand firmly over my wallet. When they tell me they are a deacon, preacher, priest, or other man of the cloth, I put the other hand firmly over the first one!

I have met dozens of "scooters" over the years. They are fun to talk to, fun to play pool with, cash on the light. When they come wanting money I always say, "Man, I was just fixing to ask you for a twenty. Times are tight." Either that or demanding the last twenty they borrowed from me back. They rarely owe me any money, but they have borrowed from so many people with no intention of paying back they can't remember if they owe me money or not. The guys I put the bite on, the guys that I demand payment from, they are in a hurry to get away! I learned something similar worked for people always whining and bitching. Start whining and bitching about your own woes, real or imagined, and they can't get away fast enough!

You have read it enough already, but you should be bored for the simples for loaning out something with sentimental value or that can't be replaced. You have probably heard enough from your wife that strangers on the net ragging you shouldn't bother you though!

I used to loan people twenty dollars or less or extend them that amount of credit, then laugh as soon as they are out of sight! My wife would ask why I was laughing. "With any luck, the last I will see of that bum!" An even less expensive trick was to demand payment of what they already owed me. They didn't owe me anything but I knew they wouldn't remember since they owed half the world! They usually hasten off with promise of a payment within a few days. If I really chew their asses loudly in a group of people they will dash the other way when they see me after that!

Stories of other people getting hustled are funny, not when it is at your expense though. Might try telling him that the shaft or stick really belonged to "Vito", "I'll just tell him you have it!" Selling debt is fun too. When somebody owes you money they will never repay sell the debt to the baddest man around.

Hu

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skor said:

I'll throw $10 in the pot
Let's cut this baby

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I'm still in.

I wouldn’t avoid a nice cue solely based on the lack of ann extension. You can pretty much convert any cue to take an extension these days.

I’ve done AE, Viking, Richard black, Frey, Mali, McDermott and a few others. I like the predator bullet pin extensions so I do that mostly. I also 3d print extensions that are lighter than the CF ones by a hair.

-td

chuckpilegis said:

RAT

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for sale?

vintagecollectibles831 said:

This is all very confusing to me, lol. But the wrapless handle in this PureX cue just looks so real. Can see the unique figure, and grain lines, going through it, in different parts. Could it be some sort of a wrap, like this other guy was told by someone? The Marketing in these cues confuses the hell out of me, lol. But, there should be no Overlays in a cue that costs nearly $2k. That is just wrong, in my opinion, lol. They are charging people over $2k, with the CF option added, for that cue.

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Again, I think the guy in the video is holding a different cue that goes for a lot less.
There are a handful of JFlowers cues that actually described having real inlays.
And again, the point is that overlay just look real these days and only the price point is a giveaway.
Also look at Rhino, it's all overlay and looks darn good

Oikawa said:

I don't really have a clear opinion about whether low-rated players should play in opens or not, depends on so many factors. But as for what Fargo rate can realistically beat a Fargo 800 player in a race-to-9, 9-ball match, I'd say something like:

500 = 1/100,000 (Practically never going to happen.)
550 = 1/5,000 (Extremely rare.)
600 = 1/500 (Very rare, but starts feeling realistic if the 600 plays his A+ game, the 800 is off his game and the rolls+breaks favor A heavily.)
650 = 1/100 (Rare but possible, 650 are already very capable players and on a given day they might play closer to 700 speed. Still requires heavy rolls from the 650 and weak play from the 800.)
700 = 1/20 (Still a big upset but no longer miraculous at all. These happen from time to time, as 700s are very capable players. This is the first case where extreme luck isn't required from the lower rated player to win a race-to-9, all it takes is an on-day from the 700 to play like a 740 and an off day from the 800 to play like a 760 and its almost even.)
750 = 1/5 (No longer a big upset, even if the odds favor the 800 these sort of results happen all the time. It's comparable to e.g. Joshua Filler losing to a 810 Fargo (860 vs. 810).

Given these subjective estimations, i'd say 700 is the first one that has a real fighting chance without the win feeling like a miracle. 650 can still win on heavy luck + overperforming their rating but these will happen maybe 0-1 times on average in a large tournament, so the odds of a 650 going deep in the tournament is still practically zero.

As for what rating starts having realistic (rare, but possible) odds of making it to say top 16 or top 8 in a WNT major, maybe somewhere inbetween 750-780. And for the rating for actually winning one, definitely 780+ at least.

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I don't think there is a legit 650 on the planet that's beating Justin Bergman or Jesus Atencio in a race to 8/9 in an arena on Matchroom equipment in a competitive event. You're not putting packages together in that environment, forget it.

Kao Kao. Taiwan. 100%