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What killed the slip stroke?

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maha said:
yea but in the past, half the pool room sitting on the rail could do it to you unless you were say a regular 50 ball runner at straight pool or better.

i still think of this older guy george that for years just watched and hung out in a chair every day. he was some kind of delivery driver.

one day people were discussing some spot in 9 ball and one player who was just short of being a short stop said hell ill take that game from anyone here for 20 a game. this is 1970's.

george said you got it. grabbed one of the wall, the guy laughed but it happened. and he had to quit after george ran out about 7 or 8 racks on the 5 by10.
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I think I mentioned elsewhere I used to knock 'em around with a guy named Vince who looked suspiciously like some of the few Cole Dickson pics. I was just an ignorant noob so no biggie. Anyway I distinctly recall him asking me if I knew George. Course I didn't but some years later decided he might've meant George Fels. Not a name that strikes fear but he could play - especially if you couldn't. :ROFLMAO:
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Ever do this?

ShootingArts
Mensabum said:
A broomstick actually hits pretty good without a tip. My father used one in exhibitions and chalked the end just like a cue. Probably for looks more than anything, but you get the idea. Center ball, slow stroke it around.
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I used to gamble with a guy that liked to do weird shit. We played pool with all kind of weird things including playing with the lightweight mops and brooms or just the handles. Found out that you could use spin with just the wood and chalking it did help. There were a few mops and brooms around that bar with a crosshatch cut on the top of the handle with my trusty Buck so it held chalk better.

Hu
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Judd Fuller 1994

JoeyInCali
pk552502 said:
Hi All, I'm sharing some pictures of a nicer cue in the collection. I bought this one from an ebay auction and think I got a pretty good deal. The seller said he purchased it from the wife of a collector upon his passing. The collector used to play and service multiple pool halls around Chicago. I don't know much about this cue. I'm hoping some members can help with some of the details of the cue such as:

- What type of wood is it?
- Is this a full splice cue?
- Is this a more common or rare Judd model?
- What size is the joint pin?
- Should I replace the bumper? It looks a little dry rotted.

Any other details or comments are always welcome and thanks in advance. The cue rolls dead straight and is a great player.
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That looks like an early Judd sneaky pete. Most likely from a Valley house cue.
All of my early Judds had flat-face 5/16 14 screw and brass insert. I frequented his shop in 1995 till he moved back to Colorado.
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Take all of the weight out of your break cue

James Briscoe
I’ve used heavy and light break cues. For me I’ve found that where the weight is makes a bigger difference. For example bought the stock BK Rush when it first came out and absolutely hated it. Couldn’t break well with it, didn’t like how it felt, etc., etc… had a knowledgeable friend watch me break 20 racks or so. He added one ounce and moved all the weight as far forward as he could on it. I exchanged the stock tip with a bulletproof tip. I love the damn thing now. I can shatter a rack if I want to now. I actually take a little off and try to control the cue ball more, control the break spread, and try to pocket my target balls. Works much better for me now. My friends always ask to use it too during BCA league night too. YMMV. Just what worked for me.
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1990 US Open Sigel & Varner - 5 Inch Pockets

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maha said:
didnt say the top new players would not almost immediately adapt to the old conditions. just that its different and you dont need a strong stroke.
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adapt? he grew up on tables like this. do you think if you grow up playing on tables like this (which is rougher than in literally any filmed 1980's US pro match i've seen) you get a "strong stroke"?

not that i give any credence to the notion that modern pro players from any country have weaker strokes than previous pros, but let's follow your logic
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Buying Unknown Cues- An Example

j2pac
Chopdoc said:
Well, I took it to the pool hall today.

It's a player!

Seriously.

I seemed brand new. No evidence of chalk on the tip, everything clean and pristine.

Some kind of layered tip. I don't know what the ferrule material is but you can see some cross hatching in it in the photos. I couldn't see that with my eyes.

Nice long taper. I really dig this shaft. And the finish on the shaft is top notch.

Love the hit too.

I played my whole session with it. I screwed my Joss together but never played it. I had the manager (a very good player) take a few shots with it, he was impressed. He commented on the (low) deflection, which surprised him. This thing has a pivot point that's way back because of the long taper. Whoever made this shaft got lucky, or knew what they were doing.

Oh, and there is no weight bolt. This thing is a naturally balanced 19 ounces, which means it feels closer to 18 ounces. Not kidding. Really nice to handle. Nice resonance too.

Finish is not high gloss. Sort of a semi-gloss but not really quite flat or matt, Definitely fine for a player.

Just noticed some grunge in the pin threads in the pictures, I'll clean that up. LOL! Pictures can reveal so much you don't see with your eyes.

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So, what the heck am I going to do with this cue? :unsure:
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Sell it to me. I'm not joking. 😁
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