i dont think gene used szamboti blanks. spain or davis yes.

gus wasnt around yet. i think he made a few full cues in phili. around just before gene died . but gus wasn't noted in that time frame for anything.

more mid 70's gus showed up. and gene was long gone and pete was running the show.

iusedtoberich said:

I don’t think any pool player on the planet knew about the pivot point, except maybe 10 guys, until the YouTube era of pool. It’s a non factor.

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good players in the past naturally moved it to keep accurate shots without thinking.
and unless its way out of wack it isnt going to make you miss.

i dont deflect much at all so no worries. and while doing a shot that will, i aim not at a different spot on the cue ball but where the object ball is going. in other words say more to the right side of the pocket.
generally on hard inside english shots where the cue ball has to go up and down the table.

i dont know what you guys are doing to have to have special shafts because your cue balls are squirting too far off line to make a shot.

nine_ball6970 said:

When the texas open was one on the spot with a magic rack(no 3 point), I saw bergman break and run 8 from the lag. 9th game he rattled the wing ball. He posted on fb that he had 23 break and runs over the course of 3 matches which were race to 9.

I also saw Shane McMinn with 7 break and runs in a row in same tournament.

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Bustamente, the hardest and most productive player for years has a high run of 7 racks...

HawaiianEye said:

How often does this happen, statistically?

I'm older than dirt and I hadn't played for years and only spent a few hours playing on a weekend and I broke and ran 5 racks and made the 9 on the sixth break and scratched in the side to stop my streak at 5.

That doesn't mean I am doing every time I play.

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Was that a dream...?

mr3cushion said:

'I' never saw/met any customers back in the factory, or otherwise!

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Actually, Dick Helmstetter started making cues in Washington DC, with the help of Gordon Hart. I've seen at least one of Dick's very eary cues. Looked like a Paradise, but with Gordon's super joint that would be later used in his Viking cues.

garczar said:

Don't get all pissy there Ned, you're the one that came with 'Stupid Post of the Year' material. Should have seen the replies comin', its a tough room as Rodney Dangerfield used to say.

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Yeah, I wasn't aware that some members here are also members of the special olympics...

Great thread, Doc. These are very historic, old-school cues.

WildWing said:

I'd like to have that HC-140. Rambow influence.

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Well, I have one in ebony.

The National HC-140 is identical to the Gandy HC-140.

Can't tell them apart as far as I know.

But the ebony one I have is the only one I have ever seen. And I have some good documentation and provenance for it.


And did you see the post of the HC-140 I just got? Scroll past my pictured of the packaging. You will love it. LOL!

I don’t think any pool player on the planet knew about the pivot point, except maybe 10 guys, until the YouTube era of pool. It’s a non factor.

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I'd like to have that HC-140. Rambow influence.

9 ball isnt broken. they just made it not fun to watch unless you are a pool nut.

Hungarian said:

Those are actually very nice looking cues. I never knew about Gandy cues. Only know about the Big G and the Sport King.

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Thanks.

I think they are underappreciated.

I am trying to complete the catalog collection, they reproduce the catalog pictures like Chris Tate did with Palmer.

I also have some excellent Palmer examples, but I am pursuing the National/Gandy catalogs. Palmer has been done.

Right now I am just using some of the pics I have. I need to get good pics of all of them. I have pictures of all of them but a lot of them are pretty crappy.

i go for usps. strictly because they are all federal employees and have a job they do not want to lose. and few would ever steal a package and risk it.

however the time you receive the package can be much longer than you thought. but more likely than the others to not be destroyed.

and no way im taking pay pal. but would use it to buy.

Augustine Szamboti Jr said:

Palmer started using Szamboti blanks in the early 70’s.

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Holy crap.

I think we have cue royalty in the house.

Welcome to the forum.

maha said:

just plug away selling what you want. dont represent something as anything you are not sure of. just say this cue for sale.
then its up to the buyer to decide if he is willing to take a risk.

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That's really best.

Cues listed as "unknown" or "unbranded" get attention.

Guessing wrong looks bad, some will immediately shy away thinking the sale might be a scam.