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DJKeys · Jan 20, 2026

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Island Drive · Jan 20, 2026

cuetechasaurus said:
Seems like it wasn’t uncommon during the era of Mosconi and a bit beyond that. I don’t know of any greats from later generations using it. My knowledge is of course limited to what I’ve been able to gather from videos I’ve seen. In modern generations I can’t think of a single player using it. What caused it to more or less go extinct?

What killed the slip stroke.... Instruction.

kingwang · Jan 20, 2026

Bob Jewett said:
Thanks. I watched it frame-by-frame and it looks like his hand has not yet moved back on the butt at the instant the stick hits the ball. The stick has not yet started to slide forward in his hand. (It would be clearer from a side view.) If that is true, the idea of throwing the cue for a straighter stroke is, well, not consistent with reality.

I think it looks that way because when you "throw" it, your hand and cue are moving at the same speed so the butt doesn't slip out of your hand until you near the end of your stroke. I think the general point he's making is that you steer the cue less if you have a very loose grip on the cue.

Jerry R · Jan 20, 2026

dendweller said:
Don't know, but it makes sense that brittle wood would be more prone to cracking if cored. The cf tube would probably help if it was cored the same diameter but it would probably raise deflection because it would be more end mass.

I've watched Bergman play a few of the Ultimate Pool open event. He breaks 8 ball racks pretty hard with his playing cue. Haven't seen one explode yet.

gregcantrall · Jan 20, 2026

Being successful on the road, (back in the day) required the marine Corp, uh how does it go? Adapt and improvise. Well recon came first. A little black book with addresses and numbers helped.
Walking in cold and playing gave me a 1 hour zone to figure out the equipment And the Prospective action. You gotta know when to hold em and when walk away or run.

Jerry R · Jan 20, 2026

skor said:
Yes, they switched back to wood but not kielwood.
One of the reasons to stay with wood is if you don't like to use a glove, with kielwood you need to use a glove (Yes I know there some out there who use kielwood and cf without a glove but they are the exceptional), Kielwood maybe smooth but not as slick as regular wood or CF and it catches my skin of the bridge hand. CF is the smoother and slickest but catches dirt and sweat fast and gets sticky and just wiping it down with a towel like standard wood doesn't work, got to get those alcohol wipes out and it's just a hustle during play that I just go for the glove.

I go back and forth between CF and LD wood when it matters like in a league or a tournament, and once in a while my kielwood or just standard maple when I just like to fool around.
Lately I'm using my old trusted 314-2 shafts more, I think that I just prefer to avoid the glove.

Not sure what you are watching, but I see more than a few high-level players playing with Kielwood now. Justin, Tyler, Billy, Rodney, Johnny, occasionally Corey come to mind, I'm sure there are others I'm not thinking of. There are a number in WPBA using them and if you watch any of the Ultimate Pool Open events it appears about 50% of those guys are using it.

sjm · Jan 20, 2026

jasonlaus said:
There is not a single person in the world that learns by getting their brains kicked in while losing their $$$. Either you're a massive fan boy sitting there with stars in your eyes or you're pissed off that you're losing your cash.

Absolutely right! An amateur player will learn nothing in this situation. The only thing you get for your $100 is the chance to meet Fedor and a chance to say "I played pool against Fedor Gorst" for the rest of your life. To many, that's worth $100, and to many it is not. Each must make his/her own decision.

straightline · Jan 20, 2026

jasonlaus said:
There is not a single person in the world that learns by getting their brains kicked in while losing their $$$. Either you're a massive fan boy sitting there with stars in your eyes or you're pissed off that you're losing your cash.

How is a 100 dollar lesson getting your brains kicked in?

MattPoland · Jan 20, 2026

Great video. Reminds me of this Veritasium video but applying it to pool.

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Rusty in Montana · Jan 20, 2026

That's a good looking vest for you're dog ! I bought a flotation one for my black lab years ago and put it on him the first time and he hated me , while giving me a look like what did I do wrong to deserve this crap !

I cut out around his front legs as it looked like it would rub him raw which it did and so I trimmed it even more and cut it so his legs would rub the more flexible material under the briar or bur proof outer coating .

Once he got use to wearing it and we hunted more he would all but bring it to me to put it on him if I had a camo coat on which he'd drive me crazy until he got his camo vest on too !

As for weather it's snowing here now , with more wind later in the day so hang onto you're hat !

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