Does it hit a ton?

Positively Ralf said:

So I'm curious, besides the SFR gaff, what other horrible inane comments did Joe Rogan make?

As for the original post, what other major sports tours play different games besides the one seen on TV? I know Tennis does doubles but even that doesn't draw as much as the regular singles tournaments. What, car racing?

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You can't compare the variety found in all those other sports mentioned to pool. It's the viewing experience. When you produce an event now, it is not just competing against other live events, but against all other events ever produced and made accessible for viewing! The events need to stand out. When searching for a recent US Open match, I ended up watching a 2025 match instead.

Positively Ralf said:

Anyway, the only thing I do not like about the WNT is the grey cloth and the dull looking balls. It literally makes everything look dead around it. Even still, they are doing fine at what they set out to do and like sjm above mentioned, if you enjoy other disciplines, there are plenty of other entities holding tournaments for them. I love watching Ultimate Pool and would watch it over any WNT event.

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That's interesting that you'd rather watch Ultimate Pool.

j2pac said:

I believe you are.

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No, I had no idea who that was either.

Patrick Johnson said:

Did somebody say how?

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no.

jay helfert said:

All things being equal I prefer watching Predator events for one big reason. They use traditional ball colors! Makes for easy viewing of matches, no squinting to figure out which ball is which. It actually makes a huge diiference! I enjoy watching a helluva lot more.

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Predator really does bring a very high level of production quality. If Matchroom hadn't come along at the exact same time, Predator may have built the exact tour I'm envisioning.

skogstokig said:

feels to me that WNT is still the big thing. production is better, prize money is better, fields are always tough as hell. i like predator too but i'm not big on the jack and jill tournaments and the other sideshows that make their events drawn out.

i would like to see WNT have a shootout style event once a year. not race to 1 like the snooker shootout and maybe not 10 second shot clock either but definitely short shot clock. more like the ultimate pool shootout than the snooker shootout. i'd like to see who comes out on top when you have to think fast.

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That's sort of what I'm getting at. It's not that they aren't trying to add diversity. They do the World Cup of Pool, the two team events, and the Premier League thing. I just hope they keep working at it.

Amaury said:

Somebody said forward balance helps imparting more action on the cue ball

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Did somebody say how?

Amaury said:

rear balance help shoot straighter (reduce deflexion I think).

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Deflection is caused by the mass of the first several inches of the shaft, not the cue’s overall balance.

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sjm said:

Wow, the fan who enjoys multiple disciplines has never had it better!

WNT offers great 9ball events all over the world. Predator's PBS offers great 10ball events all over the world. For those who prefer 8ball, there's the Ultimate pool tour, the English 8ball Tour and Heyball. Even one pocket fans have a new tour to watch in the south.

I don't see the need for each of these tours to diversify into disciplines other than their primary one.

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Of course you're right. I'm totally fine as a fan. It's this diversity that is competing with the WNT. Maybe they could have casted a wider net.

skor said:

I think that pool fans are the worse fans in the world… nothing is ever good enough 🫩

The pro snooker tour play just snooker, same game, same table, same cloth color, same players, just different location and it works great.

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This is the model. As a cue sport fan, I have the same problem with snooker.

skor said:

In fact in all the sports, they play the exact same game by the same players in different locations… Tennis, basketball, football etc.

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There's WAY more variety in other sports. Tennis plays on different surfaces, golf on different courses, and team sports play at unique venues and rotate between teams.

skor said:

WNT = World Nineball Tour
It’s doesn’t make any sense to play any other game.

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Correct with that name. I like the PBT model better, but of course that failed.

I won't deny Matchroom knows what they are doing.

kpfleming said:

I had to turn off the audio of some of the WNT/Matchroom US Open coverage because they invited the 'great guy' Joe Rogan to sit with the commentators and make inane comments. At the beginning of one of the matches he even referred to FSR as SFR, before I turned the sound off. I have no idea how much worse it got after that.

Speaking of that coverage... does anyone know of a place where I could watch the end of the FSR v. Capito final? The ESPN streaming service cut off the broadcast when ESPN2 switched to a different event, and the score was 9-8 FSR I think.

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So I'm curious, besides the SFR gaff, what other horrible inane comments did Joe Rogan make?

As for the original post, what other major sports tours play different games besides the one seen on TV? I know Tennis does doubles but even that doesn't draw as much as the regular singles tournaments. What, car racing?

Anyway, the only thing I do not like about the WNT is the grey cloth and the dull looking balls. It literally makes everything look dead around it. Even still, they are doing fine at what they set out to do and like sjm above mentioned, if you enjoy other disciplines, there are plenty of other entities holding tournaments for them. I love watching Ultimate Pool and would watch it over any WNT event.

Mensabum said:

Interesting how it refers to a jump as a foul. Jumps were legal where we played. No jump cues back then. Just your daily player.
We used to spot balls that fell on fouls or scratches, not just move on. CB always in the kitchen. Only push you got was after the break.

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No jump cues but jump rods were common in some areas. Just a metal rod around sixteen-eighteen inches long with a tip glued on one end. These were often specifically outlawed. I let people use them unless they demonstrated they were good with one.

Same thing with jump cues until recently. Letting the other player use a jump cue was an advantage for me. No complaints except the wasted time. People are getting good enough with jump cues now that jumping can be an advantage.

People forget Earl was never against jumping. Jump rods and jump cues brought others up to his level jumping and those were what he was against. Anybody wanting to jump with their playing cue was welcome to.

Hu