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Meucci or not ?

MapleCueVault
Hi everyone,

I’m trying to identify this vintage Gambler-style cue from a large cue collection.
At first glance it looks very similar to older Meucci Gambler cues, but there is no visible Meucci logo, so I don’t want to assume anything without better evidence.

Here are the specs:
Total weight: 21.7 oz
Total length: 58.5 in
Butt length: 30 in
Tip: approximately 13.2 mm
Joint: appears to be 5/16x18
Wood-to-wood style joint
Vintage maple shaft
Butt and shaft roll straight
Internal weight bolt / Allen-style construction
The design, joint and overall construction seem very close to vintage Meucci, but the missing logo is what makes me hesitate.

Has anyone seen this exact cue or know who made it?

Could it be an older Meucci Gambler variation, a private-label cue, or a copy from another maker?
Any help would be appreciated. I can add more close-up photos of the joint, butt cap, shaft insert, bumper area, or inlays if needed.
Thanks!

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JOSS CATALOGS

CajunPopeye
slampro said:
Anybody know the model number for this cue? I have an email from Dan from 2021 stating it's a Joss but he doesn't have any records of it.
It says Joss on the joint with serial number F00049 with the 9 slightly askew. It has 6 points all the same size. I don't know when it was built, the woods or materials used, or anything like that. I bought it new and I've had it since 2006 - that's all I know.

Thanks in advance for any info.
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Not yet, but it's a 2006 model. I'll check my FB album. I had a few 2k flyers, not many. ***Not in my album. The latest I have is 2002 and a few MJ models. I'll search Google for a few. Good luck.****
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slampro
Anybody know the model number for this cue? I have an email from Dan from 2021 stating it's a Joss but he doesn't have any records of it.
It says Joss on the joint with serial number F00049 with the 9 slightly askew. It has 6 points all the same size. I don't know when it was built, the woods or materials used, or anything like that. I bought it new and I've had it since 2006 - that's all I know.

Thanks in advance for any info.
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1995 garage era predator pool cue with prototype six slice shaft in excellent condition. With the original butt laser engraved ICF – 14–95.

Frosty
a1phase3 said:
I would sell it, but don’t come at me with a lowball number. I know how rare this is and you will never see another one&
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Don’t worry, won’t come at you with any number. Some of us that never drank the kool aid know what you have as well, you have one of the first pieces of junk they made.
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Thought patterns ...

gregcantrall
ShootingArts said:
Interesting article about the brain that may apply to this thread. I knew different sections of the brain were responsible for different things but this carries that concept a whole lot further.

This article claims the front and rear brains started out as two different organs, maybe not even in the same area of the body.

That tracks with what I saw helping someone clean an alligator. The alligator was still fighting minutes after the head was removed. One stab just in front of the hind legs and it went limp! Incidentally, alligator sauce piquant made by a Cajun lady that knows how is a dish straight from heaven!

Hu

www.the-independent.com

Human brain is actually two separate organs, scientists find

The Stanford University breakthrough stands to open new doors for research into fatal neurodegenerative diseases
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That's interesting, I was expecting left and right hemisphere rather than front and rear. My previous study led me to the right and left hand relying on different sides of the brain. With the right hand control going to the math logical side and the left hand control coming from the creative side.. the right hand being measured and the left hand. By feel.. Kinda like Grandma cooked with a pinch and a dash rather than a cup or teaspoon measured .
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dquarasr
ShootingArts said:
Sometimes when I was young and silly I tried to double every warning sign on curves. Once when I had just had my '66 Corvette aligned front and rear a friend asked for a ride to see what it was like. I did my usual of doubling all the curves, then a quick run up to 130 or so on a straight.

Back through the curves from the other direction. After a raised section like a small levee for railroad tracks there was a wet spot I couldn't see. Got sideways at about 100. I didn't lift just drove through it.

A few miles later I was back at my friend's home. Got out, went on the front porch where two more friends were waiting and we talked for maybe five minutes.

Somebody realized T wasn't there. "Where is T?" We walked over to the vette. He was still sitting there with both hands locked on the handle over the glove box. "I am never riding with that son of a bitch again. I am never riding with that son of a bitch again. I am never riding with that son of a bitch again. I am never riding with that son of a bitch again ..." Over and over.

He was literally in deep shock! Took him minutes longer to turn loose of the handle and get out of the car. I will admit that doubling some of the signs marked 45-55 might have been a bit much, other than that it was a pretty routine run.

Hu
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I don’t perpetuate such antics much any longer and definitely not where the posted sign reads above 40 MPH. I got my fixes doing track days and even that I retired from after I achieved personal bests at all the tracks I frequented. Going any faster would have required really taking chances and in my 60s I decided I really like keeping all my bones inside my skin.

These days I might do a blast on my favorite roads but only if the road is deserted. And in Mexico. 😁

My car emits a really high pitched squeal from the right side. It happens on both left and right turns when I send it. So if I am planning a “spirited” drive I leave her home. 🤣
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