Poolplaya9 said:

No he did not, and it is pretty clear from all the videos that he did not. We never see the shaft touch the nine ball, and we have zero reason to believe it did either, especially considering all the evidence against it. If you want to keep saying it did, show me the frame where the shaft is hitting the nine. Until then that is a silly belief, and that imaginary nine ball movement you are without evidence attributing to being a foul was just another one of the 641 other nine ball optical illusions that we can very clearly see are happening at the time.

It is you who are twisting yourself into a pretzel trying to avoid the obvious. There was no foul, and physics and the video evidence very strongly support that there was no foul. I knew you wouldn't answer my two questions because you can't, and in the attempt to you would have ultimately had to admit that the evidence just doesn't support a foul, and in fact pretty much says that a foul could not have occurred.

But if you or anyone else that thinks that one of the 642 optical illusion nine ball movements was caused by a foul then you will be able to explain how you can tell that one was caused by a foul when it looks just like the other 641 imaginary nine ball movements that we know for sure are happening all around it due to the video issues. You will also be able to explain how, after being hit by the shaft, the nine ball could sit there absolutely perfectly still and take a nap for a while before it decided to wake up at some later time and finally move in reaction to being hit. Both of those two things would have had to have happened in order for there to have been a foul, so explain how it would makes sense that they could have happened.

Tough to explain the impossible, isn't it? I'll be waiting.

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JohnnyOzone said:

The shaft brushed the 9 AFTER the tip hit the cueball. Ever so slightly. If the apparent movement was caused by flaws in the video process, then wouldn't the balls show the same effects at other times in the video?

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Frosty said:

You know you kind of contradict yourself within your own post. You say “it needs nicer cities that are relatively inexpensive to run a big tourney and that are easy and cheap for players to get to”.

Well, the city, and surrounding area the US Open was always held at IS a nice area. It has a large convention center that would be cheap for MR to run the tourney. It always was easy and cheap for players to get to, and stay for the entire week, far more so than it has been since MR moved it to Casinos in Vegas and Atlantic City. There are numerous hotels in the tidewater area that offer better and cheaper accommodations than the Casino Hotels players MUST stay in if they want to play the event, not to mention for the fans that attend the event. There are more, better, and cheaper restaurants there for players and fans to choose from to eat during the week of the event. There are other attractions in the area for those attending the event to enjoy than there are in Vegas and AC where MR has held the events since they acquired it, both Vegas and AC are relative pits with bad food, expensive accommodations and no other attractions other than casinos.

What there IS NOT, is a flipping casino that will basically give the convention space to MR for nothing, or next to nothing, and their attached hotel that will give a kickback to MR for the expensive rooms they force the “poor players” you speak of, to stay at in order to play in the event. They give the sweetheart deal & kickbacks to MR because it fills their crappy hotel, fills its attached crappy restaurants, and fills its crappy casino because there IS nowhere else to stay, eat, or other attractions in the area but the Casino’s.

They don’t care about easy to get to, or better and cheaper accommodations, or better, cheaper, and more plentiful dining options for players and fans. They don’t get anything from that. They want it somewhere in a Casino or Resort where everyone from players to fans pay to stay at hotel, eat at attached restaurants, gamble at the attached casino, so they get their kickback cut. They could give a rats ass about the quality of the experience for the players or fans.

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jbart65 said:

Shekels pay Matchroom - and they pay the players. Pool has suffered for money a long time, and you still want them to suffer? No thanks.

The other U.S. Open this week has a $90 million prize fund. Now that’s shekels. Wish the billiards U.S. open got a fraction of that.

MR needs more places like Hanoi and Orlando where large fan support is there from day 1. It needs nice cities that are relatively inexpensive to run a big tourney and that are easy and cheap for players to get to. How come? Not enough shekels.

Purists and some older fans might not like it and I get it, but something had to change.

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