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From "aim by feel" to "aim at a point"

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BC21 said:
.... a specific fractional aim point, .... a ghostball or parallel lines or contact points or a "half-tip offset" or "perception" or "tick" ...
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Just a few words to describe so many ways ...
BC21 said:
When you do it for every shot, time and time again, you are actually developing a "feel" (mental recognition) for pocketing balls.
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This is the goal, the "feel", the end of the road, now is time for the first steps ...

Not Dead Ted said:
Conveniently, the aim point for cut shots is one millimeter off the center line per degree of cut angle. It is more like 0.8 mm per degree past 30 degrees, but this actually helps compensate for throw, so if you aim a 40 degree cut 10 mm past the cue ball edge (~40mm off center) the ball will probably go. In short, if you get good at estimating the cut angle, you can get good at finding the correct aim point, and will make a lot of balls because of it.
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1mm for 1degree, interesting . I'm thinking it more like as percentage of the radius , 10degrees: 1/3of the radius (33%) but I guess is another way. Any advice/tips how to apply it for aiming points outside the OB (>30degrees)? Comparing it to the width of the ferrule as a reference (when you are down on the shot) is a way that comes to my mind.
I gave it another try this weekend (aim at a specific point) and results weren't so bad as my first try, I got the impression "it can be done with practice". I liked it. Calculating the angle and then finding the aim point is the way that I will probably explore.
Not Dead Ted said:
Having said this, my confidence in aiming has not made me a good player. I sometimes think of myself as the king of the seven ball run, because this is about how far good aiming took me. What I have learned is that stroke and cue ball control are more important. With limited time to invest, I would suggest you concentrate on building a stable stroke. When you have developed a stable stroke, you may want to experiment with aiming based on cut angle estimation. When you get good at that, start playing six ball, which will help you focus on cue ball control.
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well said, exactly what I learned about myself in the last month. I took an RDS test drill (for the first time) to evaluate my level : humiliating compared to what "I thought it was". Positioning is very important for those tests (as is in actual game). The road is as you described it:
stance, stroke, pocketing, cue ball control. Playing with six/seven balls for the drill was enlightening! With six/seven balls well spread on the table pocketing is "easy" (not if some kind of order must be kept) but since balls are away from each other positioning is very important/difficult.

have fun guys


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Pool Ball Collecting.

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Oh, and I don’t want to spoil too much as well from my collection. I am currently developing a private website for myself, where I made a full gallery of my whole collection so far.

The main part will be a list of billiards and pool games, I have acquired over 450 different game rules so far. That was the first reason to make the website, I wanted to share all my knowledge and research I did over the last 2 years. I wrote all the rules, and made pictures of the ball setup and layout for every game. But another big part will be finding out which games are still trademarked, hence I can not show their rules publicly. So I have to check everything and be sure, I don’t interfere with other IP‘s and things.

It doesn’t help as well, that it’s hard to get any replys from companies as well. I emailed Aramith once, but they never answered me at all. But as I still need to find out what I am really able to show publicly, it‘s still in the grey if and when I might put it online. And I do it all in my freetime as well, so it will take longer obviously as well… 🙃
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Pool Ball Collecting.

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I was just not sure, if it were cheap Aramith balls, or if they sold me Chinese knock off balls 🙃
I bought them for EUR 43,- but now they rose to 72,- which made me curious as well if the shop might have a stock of Aramith and cheaper ones as well. But they do look like the picture (their color), just the package is different…

I have way more ball sets than these, I just was not sure what to show. These are the ones where I have questions myself. I have others which might look nice but are widely available. So I decided to not post everything as people may know them anyway.

But here are more examples. These are Italian Bocette balls:

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Chinese balls, with a nice black pattern. Different than the usual „Black“ series from Amarith:

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Chinese 8-Ball set in 1 color:

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Bobble Balls! 😃

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And some balls from Brazil in 54mm:

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Pool Ball Collecting.

Rubik's Cube
What a great first post, Mulambo!

I can offer a little insight on the Nine Ball set, dear chap…

When Aramith acquired the Raschig billiard brand in the 1990s a number of the genuine Raschig Bumblebee balls found their way to a third party in Germany.

These authentic black and yellow stripes were then paired with other (substandard) balls to make a copy of Raschig’s Nine Ball Turniersatz..

When all the old Raschig stock had been exhausted a copy stripe was made so the sets could still be sold. They are quite poor quality but, in fairness, the price has always reflected that.
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Mosconi cup SOLUTION

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SmoothStroke said:
I found the solution. TRY WORK
“Never let anybody outwork you”.
Keep grabbing at straws while the rest of the world outworks you to death.

Stop with the bullshit of pockets, choking, sharking, who is deserving or not, etc.
The Navy Seal move had to be the dumbest crap I’ve ever seen, how’d that work out?
Practice more as a team,,, yea ok.
Not saying a team gel is a bad thing.

The two times a year I watch 9 ball .
International Open, Woodward vs Yapp.
The crew was in Woodwards corner socializing, sharing whatever on their phones, he engaged, and can hear everything.
It’s all fun and games until he misses the breakout then scratches carelessly .
Suddenly the world came to an end.
Mental and physical distractions kill.

I would have told them to go sit in the bathroom and powder your nose.
They act like it’s a birthday party and everyone’s invited.
It’s 2025, you’re banging heads with killers from around the world.

Woodward was two eyelashes away from winning the International and in control.
If he takes the event down it could have sent him into elite class. It was his time to move up that next click.
I have arrived, mentally, and physically.

They don’t need a coach, they need to work hard 365-24/7 as individuals.
They need people to stop telling them how great they are and slap a dose of reality in their heads. You’re second tier, wake up.
The US is loaded with “can’t get there players.”
That’s for every player who wants to be the next Shane. “WORK” It’s Simple Concept.
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when yapp was asked why he practices so much on tournament off hours, he said "it's my job"..

agree on the navy seal thing, but wilson did bring new young players to the forefront. sky, hall, bergman, billy, etc.
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Mosconi Cup 2025, Dec. 3-6, Alexandra Palace, London

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Kris_b1104 said:
Tyler could've been playing Savannah Easton for all I care, he would've still dogged the 9. He'll have to prove himself by winning a WNT Major or something equivalent for people to stop thinking he's a "can't get there" player.

This is why I find it so funny when people suggest alternative players who we've seen before like Dechaine (3W-17L), Wolford (0W-3L), Oscar (3W-12L), Chris Reinho...just kidding no one suggested Chris.

They've all had their chances and they've all dogged it. Fresh and new blood deserves a chance.

Please for the love of pool:

NO MORE REPEAT OFFENDERS!!!

Fight to be on the team like Neuhausen and Labutis did.
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Like Shane? Yes get rid of them all
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Mosconi Cup 2025, Dec. 3-6, Alexandra Palace, London

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jeephawk said:
Apparently he posted this on Facebook:

"Give me an opportunity to be Captain of Team USA
🇺🇸


I will have a mini Mosconi Cup with the five guys that made the team against five guys that didn’t make the team to help them prepare.
I will find sponsors to put up 5-10k so they are playing for something in the mini Mosconi cup!
I’d fly in top players from around the country to play them races to five for $$
2-3 days before the cup to get them prepared for the short races and I’d have a screaming crowd playing in the background!
I will have them at the cup at least 5-7 days ahead of time.
They will have a curfew every night, and there will be strict rules to follow!
There will be practice sessions twice a day and they will also get some days off to do some bonding as a team!
They will practice on a Duya Chinese 8 ball table.
They will do some training on and off the table like they’ve never done before in order to help them win.
There’s a lot more that I’d do for them but I don’t want to make it a long long post.
I’m sure David Bartosiak and Classic Billiards Lauderhill, FL would love to help us make this happen and make his room available to us before the cup!
Carl Bolm and Jason Sword you guys ready to help us make a change
JUST GIVE ME ONE CHANCE!"

Looks like a lot of off the top of his head pandering nonsense. Making them play guys he brings in for money? LOL. Mini-Mosconi Cup? LOL.
Curfew and strict rules? I think their response would rhyme with curfew, assuming they even need one.
Silliness.
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Not one word about mental preparation. Which they so dearly need!
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The Hustler Bank Shot Recreated with a twist

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Milkman said:
It'd be a foul in competition, right?
Ignore the rail for a second and imagine you hit with follow when two balls are frozen; most games require a 45° downward cueing angle to avoid double-kiss.
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Without the cushion it's a simple push shot which is legal. The grey area is it is a double - maybe multiple kiss as well as a cue tip foul. You could petition for an exception since the shot would be useful at any angle.
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