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How High Or Low Do You Cue For Maximum Spin And Had Dr. Dave Ever Studied This?

Bob Jewett
Nature Boy said:
How high or low do you cue the ball when attempting maximum spin? ...
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The question is ambiguous. If you want maximum spin relative to speed as the ball leaves the tip, hit the cue ball as far off-center as you can.

If you want max side spin relative to speed after the cue ball has acquired normal roll, hit at 4:30 or 7:30 and as far from center as you can without miscuing.

"How high or low" means nothing without more context.

If you really want maximum backspin, elevate to near 90 degrees. The cue ball will come back to you without hitting a ball.
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Cue shaft talk

j2pac
Jaden said:
That's true, however, for a player who mainly uses feel to adjust for cueball deflection, a ld shaft will help by having the stroke line being closer to the intended cb travel line. The less you have to deviate off of that line, the less the chance that you over or under compensate for squirt/cb deflection. Or rather, any deviation will be of a smaller percentage because you aren't having to adjust as much to compensate for the squirt.
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Agreed.
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Cue shaft talk

j2pac
mdc said:
Haven’t tried carbon fiber shafts, but I would like to. I’m a believer in LD shafts as it makes compensating for English easier for me. Been using a Predator 314-2 for over 20 years now and I’m pretty happy with it. I own a few cues with standard maple shafts, but playing with them takes adjustment after so many years with a LD shaft. Hard to imagine going back now. The main reason I haven’t tried a CF shaft already is the cost, can’t justify it and agree with those saying it’s too much. Thought about sticking with wood and upgrading to the new 314-3, but even that is beyond my means at the moment.
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You might try the Raven Pro CF. They're fairly affordable comparatively speaking.
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Higher skill pocket billiards players - 9 ball or snooker players?

Bob Jewett
Cleveland_Rocks said:
... Snooker Players Playing 9-Ball
Top snooker players can be genuinely competitive at 9-ball relatively quickly. The snooker table is 12 feet long with notoriously tight pockets and smaller balls, so snooker players already possess extreme cueing precision and positional awareness. Moving to a 9-foot pool table with larger pockets feels comparatively forgiving to them.

Notable examples: Steve Davis won multiple pool world championships after his snooker career peaked. Jimmy White was also competitive in pool. More recently, Judd Trump has shown interest in pool and clearly has the raw talent to compete. ...
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Perhaps you could follow up and list the World Pool Championships that Steve Davis has won. Maybe they were at one pocket because I don't think he has finished higher than 17th at 9-ball. Edit: he finished tied for 5th in the 2000 WPC including an amazing win over Efren Reyes.
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Cue shaft talk

mdc
Haven’t tried carbon fiber shafts, but I would like to. I’m a believer in LD shafts as it makes compensating for English easier for me. Been using a Predator 314-2 for over 20 years now and I’m pretty happy with it. I own a few cues with standard maple shafts, but playing with them takes adjustment after so many years with a LD shaft. Hard to imagine going back now. The main reason I haven’t tried a CF shaft already is the cost, can’t justify it and agree with those saying it’s too much. Thought about sticking with wood and upgrading to the new 314-3, but even that is beyond my means at the moment.
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Cue shaft talk

B
I have noticed a big difference between my 1980 Eckes cue with a 12mm tip and a whippy shaft that I still use periodically and my 1995 Meucci with a 13mm tip... so am curious to see what difference the Keilwood shaft makes. I am of the shooting style that Jaden mentioned as I go by feel for my shots. Using aggressive enlish/spin like I do, I have always used feel on bank shots as well because the diamond system does not work for my style of play.
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How High Or Low Do You Cue For Maximum Spin And Had Dr. Dave Ever Studied This?

Island Drive
Nature Boy said:
How high or low do you cue the ball when attempting maximum spin?

The golfer in me knows that for maximum backspin, you want a downward strike. It would seem to me that physics would say the same would be true in pool, which would mean a slightly elevated butt.

Does that mean we should strike slightly upwards for maximum follow? I know that many instructors tell us the cue should finish on the felt for all shots, but this seems counterintuitive to me.

I also wonder if Dr. Dave has done a study on this.

Thanks in advance!
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Coming thru the horizontal contact point on the cue ball with a perfectly straight follow thru at the outward 3 o'clock or 9 o'clock strike point.
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Cue shaft talk

Jaden
j2pac said:
Once you adjust your aim slightly, you'll be just fine. I don't know that the shaft in and of itself will "improve" accuracy. The accuracy improvement will come from dialing in both your aim, and your stroke.
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That's true, however, for a player who mainly uses feel to adjust for cueball deflection, a ld shaft will help by having the stroke line being closer to the intended cb travel line. The less you have to deviate off of that line, the less the chance that you over or under compensate for squirt/cb deflection. Or rather, any deviation will be of a smaller percentage because you aren't having to adjust as much to compensate for the squirt.
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Ronnie doing Ronnie Things - Highest Break Ever

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gregcantrall said:
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Yesterday, I tried to sign up for wst.tv. First, there is no "Sign Up Now" button anywhere. It took me 15 minutes to figure out that I needed to sign up for an account for the website first. After providing some information, I got my website account. Second, when I then tried to subscribe to wst.tv, I had to fill out another form, and about half way through that form, I quit.

If someone knows anybody that is associated with that website, tell them they need a "Sign up Now" button for wst.tv with one form to fill out, and all you should have to provide is your credit card info, like any other web transaction.
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Ronnie doing Ronnie Things - Highest Break Ever

GideonF
straightline said:
In golf - table golf, there are deductions if you don't hit your ball. I think its back one hole per foul. In snooker I recall when all the reds are gone, fouls are assessed according to the point value of the ball in play.
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In snooker the minimum foul value is 4 points (awarded to the opponent). So if you are on a red (worth 1 point) and don’t hit a red it’s 4 points. If you are on the yellow (worth 2 points) and foul it’s 4 points. If you foul a ball worth more than 4 (the blue 5, the pink 6, the black 7) then the foul is worth the value of the ball. So if you hit the black by accident it’s a 7 point penalty.
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