Yapp’s Controversial Tournament-Winning Shot in the 8-Ball World Championship … Was it a Foul?

I agree 100%. Any pool player who watches the entire video and still thinks the shot could have been good needs to learn a little more about fouls and how to judge them.
They don't understand pool or billiards at all, let them come close to the balls & squint their eyes into the two object balls to determine fouls, even more funnier let them play slow-mo of the shots to see which ball moved first which is hilarious.

I laugh so hard whenever I see live-match where a referee come very close to balls and squint at them to determine fouls, they are so funny when they do this plus it also shows me that they got zero knowledge about pool. I can literally sit a mile away and look at the balls & cue-ball to tell you if its good hit or bad hit, I dont need to squint or come close to the balls, thats just too dumb when refs do this, sorry.

My TAOM V10 Blue chalk goes to 11..

Bob Jewett posted awhile back about using a DAMP rag to wipe down your cloth and I've been doing it for a couple of months, some of the best advice I've ever had for cleaning my table, I do the cushions and the the bed of the table, just try it once for yourself, you'll see.....
Been using damp micro fiber colths for maybe 30 or 35 years.
Maybe micro fiber cloths weren't invented that long ago. We used terry cloth then.

On my table I vacuum first, then come back with the slightly damp cloth, if in the mood for the extra work. Like how long ago did I wipe this table?
Yesterday? No need. Last week? Ya maybe should.

IMO, going stricktly to damp cloths doesn't get the job done properly.
Take off the majority with a vacuum then go after some of the rest with the cloth.

What pool halls don't get (if they even care) is that a clean table gives them much better cloth life, and ball life.

Problem seems to be, not many rooms give a s%#h about how their tables play.

Oops I did it again (Yapp's) foul in a final, a second time!

I carefully replicated the shot in slomo and posted a video. The video is in Chinese, but I think the footage alone is enough. If you are interested you can watch it here Login to view embedded media
The slowmo starts at 1:06, and shows 8-first hit (almost split hit but nonetheless 8 first), 8-first hit (clearly 8-first), 4-first hit.
Listen I don't understand anything you said, but it was a foul 1000% - maybe you're trying to justify something there but I got no clue what you were saying.

McDermott cues in The Color Of Money

Everything you said in this post brought back memories for me. I had a lot of different cues but was fond of Meucci's in the late 80's and 90's. I was already interested in pool before the Color of Money came out but it really ignited it to another degree.

No telling how many shafts I sanded. I got a Joss and was in love with it, I think I really wanted the stainless joint at the time because I thought players better than me were using those. I wanted a Schon because I seemed to regularly take beatings from guys playing with Schon cues. I did have a "break cue" but it was whatever cue I liked the least. First cue was a Huebler sneaky, then an Adam. My cases were Porper and It's George and all my tips were Le Pro.

Yeah had Porper and It’s George. I let too much stuff go. Some I don’t miss, but I’d sell cues and a couple I wish I kept. Couldn’t afford a lot of the cool stuff then, like the Josswest cues I admired or the fancy Meuccis. Kept the Huebler I ordered. Picked up a Huebler sneaky not long ago. I had an Adam plain birdseye with brass joint and nylon wrap. It was cheap but I wish I had it. Posted in another thread about never getting a Showcase sneaky Pete. They used to advertise in the magazines. $190 to your specs IIRC. A friend had one and it hit good. Seemed expensive for a sneaky. Showcase was a great store in Denver. Bought other stuff from them.

Fedor’s “new” chalk…

The first half of mine wore down quicker than the chalk I was using previously, but seems to hit the point of either an optical illusion or infinity, as I feel like I have been at half a cube for an eternity now. Got 4 cubes of the blue one, and really see no reason to switch. Grabs nice, it's clean.
I have the green and the blue but I feel like the blue doesn’t stick as well. I put it back in the box but maybe I’ll try it again.

Oops I did it again (Yapp's) foul in a final, a second time!

While the path of the cue ball does tell the story for this shot, it is not one of the simpler situations, like shooting between two frozen balls. I can see how the ref could be unsure about what a shot would look like if close to a simultaneous hit.
A path of the cueball & The reaction of a cueball, one of the two can tell the whole story, I am sorry....it can 100% tell the whole story.

A simultaneous hit is a rare, very rare actually....let me say it again vvvvvvvvery rare, and if that happens I also can tell you that it might of happened based purely on cueball reaction and what the balls did after the shot, 100% I can tell you purely from the movement of the balls as a whole. But considering our rules in pool if that ever happen, and thats a big if here....lets say it happened where the cueball striked two balls simultaneously in the same second, then its a good hit and you cant foul anyone for that one.

But I can tell you, i always can figure out a good hit or a bad hit based on cueball reaction, and this isnt just from shooting into balls but I can also tell you from rails backhit prespective, I know what the cueball should do and what it shouldnt do, rail-first hits, rail-second hits....all that you can tell from the reaction of the balls, or the paths of them balls.

I saw a bustamante/daryl video clip above and I cannot believe how many times they kept running a slo-mo. I swear to god man there's absolutely noway to 100% determine a foul in pool by seeing the balls or squinting into the balls or even running slow-mo's, whoever keep checking videos to determine bad hits by running videos at 0.1 sec and frame by frame to see which ball was hit first, sir you're doing it wrong....100% wrong. The worst thing these guys did was going through the slow-mo over and over and over to see if its good hit or bad hit...all you need is the full-speed and watch the reaction of everything, I kept looking for a video of the whole thing but didn't find it...

Give me this Busty/Daryl video a full-speed of the actual shot, no slow-mo's and ill tell you if its a foul or not.

More Early Impressions Of The Diamond Professional

DCP said,

"Yesterday I had about eight (8) chances where I felt I should run out. I hosed up five and got out three times."

My interpretation of the above does not mean 3 out of 8.

He could have broke 100 racks and in his opinion only had 8 decent chances to run out & managed to do so 3 times.

You are correct. But it wasn't 100 breaks. It was more like 35-40. Of those 35-40 I had 8 spreads that I felt I should get out from. I hosed up five and got out three times.

I did manage to get this spread out earlier today though:

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