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Seeing the contact point on the object ball.

Protractor
Not sure how to answer that, but if I were just a math/science nerd I might have looked for a system. I am also a musician, which relies heavily on intuition and feeling.

When I started playing pool during college it was with the intention of taking a break, getting my mind off all the math/science (calculus class at 0730? gimme a break). What I meant by math background was geometry, understanding what was happening with the angles. AFAIK, I don't have a system for aiming bank shots or kick shots; I just experimented with it until I could do it by feel/intuition. If I had a system, I might be able to teach it but I wouldn't know where to start with teaching my method to someone else.
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Magic Roll Billiards | Rack Protectors, Table Services - use AZB10 for 10% off

magicrollbilliards
Hey AZB, been lurking and chatting in the general forum for a bit and wanted to properly introduce what I do. I've been a player since I was old enough to be in a bar and started playing competitively a couple years ago. I love the community and the sport has been such a welcome addition to my life.

In my competitive play I became accustomed to using template racks as they are very popular in my region. But I hated travelling with them. They're flimsy, obnoxious to transport, and I often found myself losing them, but I do appreciate the consistent rack at my skill level so... I came up with a solution.

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I also developed my own take on the portable bridge head that I'm pretty proud of and find daily use for as well.

Mr. Bridge ($7.99): a portable bridge head that attaches to your cue. Available in Classic and Black.

Both ship flat rate anywhere in the US.

I also got into pool table repair and recovery after putting a few tables into some of my favorite local bars. I'm based in Portland, OR, have already locked in a couple accounts, and am looking to expand. I service Oregon and Washington and my prices beat any of the established servicers in your area. I take pride in my work.

As a thank you to the AZB community, use code AZB10 at checkout for 10% off either product at magicrollbilliards.com

Thanks for the read, pleasure to meet you all. Cheers!
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How to Control Draw and Follow Distance Accurately and Consistently

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dr_dave said:
FYI, I just posted a new video that discusses and demonstrates how to use stroke length to accurately and consistently control follow and draw distance for a wide range of shot distances and follow and draw amounts. Also presented and demonstrated is a Follow Matrix Drill for putting your topspin follow skills to the test. Check it out:


Contents:
  • 0:00 - Intro
  • 0:24 - Draw/Follow Distance Control
  • 2:37 - Follow Matrix Drill
  • 5:57 - Follow Matrix Challenge
  • 9:44 - More Info
Supporting Resources:
As always, I look forward to your feedback, comments, questions, complaints, and requests.

Enjoy!
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Using draw length to control distance was a bit hard for me to get the hang of. One thing that has really helped is to think of it like the plunger on a pinball table. This not only helped "feel" and visualize the effect, but also slowed down my backstroke a bit and helped me with a smoother, more consistent acceleration through the stroke.
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Magic Roll Billiards | Rack Protectors, Table Services & AZB10 for 10% off

magicrollbilliards
Hey AZB, been lurking and chatting in the general forum for a bit and wanted to properly introduce what I do. I've been a player since I was old enough to be in a bar and started playing competitively a couple years ago. I love the community and the sport has been such a welcome addition to my life.

In my competitive play I became accustomed to using template racks as they are very popular in my region. But I hated travelling with them. They're flimsy, obnoxious to transport, and I often found myself losing them, but I do appreciate the consistent rack at my skill level. So I came up with a solution.

Magic Roll ($15.99): keeps your racks safe without curling them, fits conveniently into your pool case, and travels easy at a fraction of the cost of other rack cases. Compatible with Magic Rack, Accu-Rack, Fedor Gorst Rack, Taom MaxRack, Predator AeroRack, and more.

I also developed my own take on the portable bridge head that I'm pretty proud of and find daily use for as well.

Mr. Bridge ($7.99): a portable bridge head that attaches to your cue. Available in Classic and Black.

Both ship flat rate anywhere in the US.

I also got into pool table repair and recovery after putting a few tables into some of my favorite local bars. I'm based in Portland, OR, have already locked in a couple accounts, and am looking to expand. I service Oregon and Washington and my prices beat any of the established servicers in your area. I take pride in my work.

As a thank you to the AZB community, use code AZB10 at checkout for 10% off either product at magicrollbilliards.com

Thanks for the read, pleasure to meet you all. Cheers!
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Seeing the contact point on the object ball.

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Protractor said:
I don't know if it was my math background or what but I never learned an aiming system for banks either. To this day, I just get down, glance at the target pocket out of the corner of my eye, return the the CB and when it feels right, drain it without seeking a contact point.
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how does having a math background contribute to NOT learning a system as most are mathematical????
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Meucci 333

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TATE said:
It was in the mid 1990's. I think 1994- 1995 but I'm not 100% certain. They were coming up with different lines of cues, like the PBT line and the classic series. They came up with the 222 and 333 because these were designed to retail for these amounts ($222 and $333). If you know anyone who has old Pool and Billiard magazines, they advertised them were somewhere about 1994 - 1995.

They are only worth about as much as the lower end '95 series cues from what I recall.

Chris
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Good luck getting one for that price now ..much less finding one
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Dumping - caught

bpeacock
iusedtoberich said:
From binge watching Judge Judy episodes:):) .....
If you partake in an illegal activity, and you are wronged, there is no recourse by suing. For example, if you handed a drug dealer $100 for drugs, and he ran away without giving you the baggie, you can't sue him.

I'm fairly certain side betting on a pool match is illegal unless its through a legit book, which there are none in USA for pool.

Criminally, IDK what could happen. Even if it was a crime, you'd have to go to the cops and admit to them yourself that you were illegally side betting.

Of course we all do it in pool. But when things go wrong, NO ONE runs to the law.
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there is no requirement in § 371, § 1343, or § 224 that a private person “press charges.”
The government only needs sufficient evidence to prosecute.
Sometimes cases continue even when alleged victims do not want prosecution, especially if investigators already have:
messages,
recordings,
financial records,
surveillance,
or cooperating witnesses.
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BUFFALO'S PRO CLASSIC 2026

Bob Jewett
maha said:
just as i said. a situation where one player can profit more by losing than winning and at the same time maybe cause others to lose the value of their investment.

oh,,, its okay in this case because he said he would never do anything like that.
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I think that one thing that makes it better in this case is that we knew who had half of Evan. Fedor did not hide that.

I think any time the Calcutta is as big as or larger than the regular prize fund, problems -- or at least suspicions -- will occur.

I wonder if Fedor had all of Fedor.
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Stats -- 2026 Buffalo's Pro Classic One-Pocket, May 2026

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After this prestigious tournament ended, I hope this puts to rest Short Rack and Shot Clock conversation threads. These players with so many different styles and skill sets truly show how Fargo Ratings really don't mean that much in playing our favorite game. Evan is a fantastic player on full display.
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