I don't think the game is broken. More of a case that, visually and format-wise, there is barely difference between one MR comp to the next and the whole tv/stream presentation feels copy-n-paste and is just dull. PBS and Ultimate Pool are starting to fall into the same trap. Its always one of SVB, Shaw, Gorst or Filler until they're all eliminated. If it wasn't for the location stated in the stream description I wouldn't know if I was watching the Florida or Arizona Open. I only know the comp is taking place in UAE, Dubai or Saudi because there's no bugger in the audience.

On the table, the game is great. If it doesn't take off to the level we hope then so be it, then its just our dirty little secret. But we can't keep mucking about by changing rules. It's better production and varied formats that the game needs.

I'm curious because we are talking about old 10 ball rule sets, going back to the 80's. Was the 10 on the break commonly a win then? It actually came up 2 nights ago I was playing a guy from that era 10 ball, he made it on the break and said he won. I said wtf are you smoking?

mnorwood said:

Shane was clearly struggling with the break. He has always been known for being the best at the break. Has he had other recent struggles with WNT break?

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His break was the best at 10 ball smashing them and sending the 2 corner balls 4 rails in, and often making 2-3 more balls, and popping the CB in the air so it missed the kiss, and then landing it mid table. 4-5 balls total sometimes. No one had a better 10 ball break than him in those days, imo.

Island Drive said:

not hurting the pool room owners regulars, who pay the rent. It also will give those Sat night regulars/players tables, and something to watch.

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One place I shoot at, these are the same folks. Small city, 10k population.

StrokeofLuck said:

Thanks for the review. I had been looking at one of these for the same reasons.
I think the tips on these lower end Chinese ones are usually Bakelite. I hate phenolic tips for a variety of reasons and think the Bakelite is pretty similar.
I'm wondering how the cue ball control is with like a second ball break?

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I haven't get to test it that much yet, but the tip on my Rhino is also Bakelite which is a type of phenolic resin and I can control it pretty good.
You can always re[lace the tip if you don't like it. I replaced the phenolic tip on my Raven break shaft to a White Diamond. On a different Jump-Break cue, I changed the tip to the Samsara J/B tip. They both work very well for breaking and providing better control without losing to much power and I can jump well with those tips as well, but for jumping the phenolic tips or Bakelite do give an edge.

For now I'll keep it as is but I might replace it with the Samsara tip I see that I'll need it for the break.
My advice for you when using phenolic tips is reduce power and body movement on the break on focus on accuracy and it'll get the job done. 20% less power will make a difference.

Storman Norman said:

Thanks all this info is great. I'll know more the next time if I come across another. I agree that the cue has been repaired from a breakage.
I think that the repair was probably done local to where the owner lived in ohio.
"Cues" was a typo.
I feel good about having it, someone spent some money on getting it repaired to save it
Thanks for taking the time to look and respond

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Definitely unique. I dig that. I have a thing for cue mysteries.

I bet it could tell some stories.

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That can get expensive as well.

I believe @mr3cushion has cleared up the rules on three cushion nicely - but on sagu I'm still not sure (since there are 2 red balls)
Standard break off is like 3C (video) but I've seen ppl online trying this other way and I want to know definitively.

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thank you! I've got that one as well

garczar said:

10b on break rarely happens so regardless of the rule set its not an issue.

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With a template. At a Predator event earlier this year i saw Shane make the 10 in the corner like 4 times in a single match, and he wasn't the only one. Granted it was due to bad racks, but if that's the way they're playing, it should definitely spot up.

Seems the Aerorack isn't very good...

tailuge said:

Hi,

If anyone knows for sure, please let me know, in Sagu 4-ball can you break off using the red beside the cue ball ?
Actually in three cushion could you do that also?

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Thanks,
Luke

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No!!

In Korean four-ball (sagu) billiards, the opening break shot requires the player's cue ball to hit at least one rail before contacting an object ball, or to execute a legal two-rail/cushion path towards the red balls depending on local house rules.


Setup and Opening Break

• The Cushion Rule: Unlike pool, a standard legal break in traditional Korean sagu dictates that your cue ball must strike a cushion (rail) before hitting any of the target balls (often required to hit 1 or 2 rails first, known as a daidai or cushion-first lag/break).