Fore Rail said:

What would you do Bob when the game is on the line?

Why would anyone decide to shoot the 1 ball in the side when the corner is an option?

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The OP said he was asking about the very thin cut and not other ways to play the shot.

If you practice the shot, you will get better at it and it will be more useful. You might not get your comfort zone up to 90 degrees, but you can move it past 75. In some situations, you have to shoot hard shots you don't want to shoot because there is no safety play. If you're playing eight ball against SVB and you are on the 8 and he has five balls and the only reasonable shot you have is a very thin cut to the side, it would be suicide to try to play safe. If you have practiced very thin cuts, you will have a better chance to beat SVB is that shot comes up.

The 90-degree cut is most useful as a proposition shot. See the offer above by @Agent 99 -- someone has a chance to make some money from the shot.

I practice thin cuts frequently and I play them in games.

Fore Rail said:

Of course Player A loses

What the score according to WPA 10-0 or 10-7?

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WPA does not have a "score" for 8-ball games. You either win or you lose.

Maybe you are thinking about APA leagues? If so, I can't help you there.

In VNEA, the score depends only on what balls remain on the table after the game is over, so it would be 10-0.

@Bob Jewett

This has been messed up for at least 20 years. Hardly any of it makes sense, including the wording, and including the tolerances. I think someone re-typed it into a word processor decades ago (from the BCA published book prior), and all the tolerances have been messed up since. If you'd like help figuring out what it was supposed to be, I'd be happy to.

garczar said:

Great stuff as usual.

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Thanks.

garczar said:

Just for shits-n-giggle you outta do a tounge in cheek vid on 'beer bar' rules, their implementation and possible fisticuffs arising from such use.

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Done:

And much more info on this topic can be found here:

Bob Jewett said:

The OP asked how to make the cut in the side. He said he put the other balls on the table so people would not suggest some other shot.

To cut the ball into the side he has to play with extreme left and a little below center, pretty much as he guessed.

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Fore Rail said:

For arguments sake take the 5 off the table & put the 8 in the jaws of the bottom right corner.

Playing 8 ball

What are you going to do now?

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What would you do Bob when the game is on the line?

Why would anyone decide to shoot the 1 ball in the side when the corner is an option?

iusedtoberich said:

How about some behind the scenes on the rule updating process? Who is in charge of it? How many people have a voice and/or vote? Is it done every x years? Or at random times? Where did these rule changes come from? Where did the one hole and banks addition come from?

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I was the chair. Dr. Dave was one of the North American (BCA) selections and the EPBF head referee (Roman Mirakhmedov) was also on the committee. There was a total of about 10 others from five continents. The others had occasional inputs but were less active in the discussions. Roman brought the viewpoint of a ref who has spent a lot of time in the trenches. Roman also handled the final edit and fixed a bunch of problems with the master Word document.

The discussion mostly occurred in a private AZB forum so there will be a permanent record of the reasons and problems.

As of about 2000, the WPA set a policy to make revisions no more frequently than every five years. This was perhaps an overreaction to what happened previously with changes appearing every year with little apparent control or consideration. The long delay this time was due to the WPA not having a rules committee. It was established only about a year and a half ago.

I think the WPA Board wants changes about every three years from now on.

I don't recall any actual vote in the Committee on any change during the discussions. We managed to reach some kind of consensus on all the changes.

For the one pocket, I wrote a WSR-style set of rules a couple of years ago for a Billiards Digest column. The WSR rules for one pocket are shorter than the onepocket.org rules because they start with all of the general rules and definitions that are used for all other games. Recently Predator asked the WPA refs to handle the one pocket and bank pool demo events in Las Vegas, so I put together a set of bank pool rules, which are a lot like the rules for one pocket. They were then easy enough to add to the final draft. I suppose those two games are the most likely to have errors.