I have a Andy Gilbert
It’s used cue so has blemishes in butt
Asking 500

What’s your price range?

hunger strike said:

... You are correct, leather was used before Mingaud, but my long-considered guess is that it was used to strike but not to spin the ball. This seems to be the only possibility, that Mingaud invented the cue tip for spin. Because nothing else explains why he was able to mesmerize crowds and make a living with exhibitions. ...

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I've seen reports of players getting a limited amount of spin with no tips prior to Mingaud, and I've done that myself in a rec room where there were no tips on the cues. It seems reasonable that Mingaud figured out how to press or treat the leather so it could last. Tip leather seems a lot harder than most of the other leather I've seen. I don't know of any contemporary sources that discuss tip evolution around 1800.

What’s your price point?

Rocket354 said:

It's between Rita and Chezka for the title of best current female player*.

*who actually plays tournaments regularly. The reclusive Siming Chen remains an enigma.

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Where would you place Jasmin Ouschan and Seo Seoa?

JohnnyOzone said:

Don't know if anybody's been watching any of this, but Savannah Easton's game has taken a quantum leap in this tournament. She's into the Finals after beating Wei 8-3. I've watched her last 4 matches and I haven't seen her play anything close to this level before.

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The fact that she's that good at 16 is incredible.

Pictures and specs would probably help.

I may have seen him a couple times in the 70s. RIP

In the 90's when I started playing, there was a shoemaker who had his shop down the street from the poolroom. He was about 75 years old at the time, and I believe was even a 2nd or 3rd generation shoemaker. He made his own pool tips for his personal cues using leather from his shop. I'd imagine a lot of super old cue tips were made the same way, using a scrap of leather.

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Bob Jewett said:

It was about 1810. It turns out that it had been tried before but he perfected the process somehow.

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Bob, if you remember the crossed mace implements above my billiard room door, one of them is the highest quality maces I ever saw, very whippy wood, bone ferrule, silver monogram, maker's mark too.
But the other is the real treasure. It was given to me as a gift from a French billiard table restorer about 20 years ago before he retired. The rounded handle looks like a lathe turning. It is actually spoke-shaved. The stepped pyramid shaped business end has carved grooves in the sides of the steps. It enlarges to a rectangular head. This striking surface is covered in thick leather. It has an ivory inlay on the bottom to slide on the cloth.
You are correct, leather was used before Mingaud, but my long-considered guess is that it was used to strike but not to spin the ball. This seems to be the only possibility, that Mingaud invented the cue tip for spin. Because nothing else explains why he was able to mesmerize crowds and make a living with exhibitions. It must be also why the novelty of the ball-spinning shots in his 1827 book caused Thurston's in England to publish their translation of his book in 1830. I trust your wisdom, let me know what you think. I have an unopened bottle of French cue tip glue that says, in French, "company founded in 1828." This bottle was from the same table restorer. He sent me a rounded, rough, white stone, with a rounded cavity in the center. It is a primitive tip scuffer. Now do you see why I need help building a museum website? Regards, JW

fuggles said:

As it happened people around the room, and someone on the mic were commenting about how there were 2 "low" skill level players in the final. It was a rare occation. I'm pretty sure if we look back on who has won it wouldn't be a 601 rated player. I believe Chad won last year. I don't know Eric, but I think it is safe to say he had the tournament of his life. Also he was fortunate that Chad, Victor and Alex had to play each other in the first few rounds. I've been very bad and pretty good. Last event was pretty good. Played well in Scotch, Singles and Teams. Added 10 pts to my fargo and I have 1000 robustness.

Edit: just looked up last year, Damian beat Chad in the finals. Double dipped. Ouch.

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Eric beat Victor 6-4 in the third place match after losing the chair. He didn't dodge him.

This was the first year players from 600 to 625 were pushed to the elite. Last year they would have been in the platinum but the idea I think was to increase the size of the field in the elite. So last year both the finalists wouldn't even have been in the elite division unless they decided to "play up". It was pretty interesting actually the way it played out but also most of the really heavy hitters weren't there. Randy Baker may have had the highest fargo in the event.

My money is always on Pedro. He's about two tenths ahead of the field still.

Thank you sir! I’ll keep trying. Have a great week….

dr_dave said:

Good point. Refs need practice making these types of calls to become better at making correct calls live. Dedicated training with guidance concerning what to look for and where best to stand would also help.




I do discuss this. I think I made it clear that unless super slow motion video is available to clearly show thin-hit contact on the first ball, it is possible that the thin-hit tangent-line judgement technique will result in the wrong answer or rare occasion. But the "wrong answer" is the "right answer" if no super slow motion video replay is available. I know this is a tough one to accept, but I think it is a necessary evil (unless people use their smartphones for slo-mo video, or unless tournament organizers install high-speed cameras above every table for video-replay review).

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This an interesting question. Is it better to call the foul when 99 percent of the time it is correct but 1 percent of the time it’s not a foul, or is it better to say “on thin hits like this I cannot rule out a good hit so I can’t call a foul”?

One could argue that regulation 25 supports the latter.

25. REFEREE UNCERTAINTY
If the referee cannot determine whether a player fouled, the shot will be considered legal.

It’s kinda like the accidental miscue ruling. Even though we know that the vast majority of accidental miscues involve the CB hitting the shaft, we can’t say so with certainty because in rare instances there is no contact. So it’s not called a foul unless the contact with the shaft is clear.

Mr.Sharke said:

Is Unique Products still in business ??? I’ve tried numerous times to contact w/o any luck. Thanks & any contact info is appreciated…

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I got an email from Jim about a week ago, sometimes he is busy , however he always gets back to you