uk_9_ball_convert said:

He's played really well in this match

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shane looks really up for it this year, and is playing great. THAT shane could have made a big difference other years. this time, tyler and billy are aiming for the rails and sky and fedor are limping. at best he can inspire the latter two to grab a point or two..

lfigueroa said:

Is there even a market for that?

I mean seriously, who the faguzin' is he going to get by including all of NA, lol! That would be, excluding the US, players from:

Antigua and Barbuda
The Bahamas
Barbados
Belize
Canada
Costa Rica
Cuba
Dominica
Dominican Republic
El Salvador
Grenada
Guatemala
Haiti
Honduras
Jamaica
Mexico
Nicaragua
Panama
Saint Kitts and Nevis
Saint Lucia
Saint Vincent and the Grenadines
Trinidad and Tobago

Lou Figueroa
bettin' on the
Jamaican bobsled team
to rebrand and take up pool

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he wasn't referring to the mosconi cup format

just more open events, tour stops. i think asia is the market myself, but then again florida open was a great addition. could be good stuff coming.

i'll keep harping on about what i think is needed for young US players looking to reach the next level. group up. live close. works in spain, works in poland, works in taiwan. some of those players moved to have competitive daily practice. snooker players figured this out long time ago with their scotland gang, sheffield gang(s), leicester gang.. lonewolfs like shane and filler are outliers..

There is a local supply store that lets you test shoot with cues including chalking. I think they don't have any custom cues. A place called "Billiards and Bagels" (in Oregon? ) used to do the same with higher-end cues. A friend of mine spent an hour or so there before buying.

maha said:

isnt 3 foul used in most 8 ball leagues? ...

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No. For about two years in the 1980s, the BCA rulebook had an optional 3-foul rule in 8 ball. They also had ball in hand anywhere for a foul. That combination meant any failed runout -- like missing on your last ball -- was a sure loss if your opponent knew a little about safety play. And against a 3, fouling would be easier and safer than running.

No value. $20 maybe. Import cue.

lfigueroa said:

I cannot recall where I heard it but it was said that Filler plays on his home table, with 4.25 pockets, every day until he runs 200.

Do we have anyone with that work ethic?

Lou Figueroa

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I believe that's how he starts his daily practice. Then he moves on to 9 ball.

Fantastic

I played in the Florida Open and had a 2foot long shot on the 9 with a very slight cut angle to go up 1-0 vs Kazakis. I had run 5 or 6 balls to get to it. I was perfect on it. I hit it with a bit of outside and medium speed. I hit it fat, and missed. I would have bet the farm on that shot. It was the new conditions that caused me to miss.

Also of note, Simonis Shark Gray, which is the MR official cloth, is only available in 860, not 860HR (might also be available in 760, but irrelevant for this). Most new pro tables these days ship with 860HR, which is available in Tournament Blue. 860HR is the Diamond standard cloth install for the past several years.

So even though top pros are playing on new cloth multiple times per year, they are mostly playing on 860HR, not 860, except for MR produced events on Shark Gray.

I believe Asia supports a lot of high end cue maker’s demand.

Kim Bye said:

Well It's the same for every player, so that's a moot point.

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DrCue'sProtege said:

So, let me ask again.

What table is the Mosconi Cup being played on???

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Are you blind? There are 100 videos by MR and interviews all over Youtube showing the matches.

I think the deflection has been saved for the interviews.

I love how folks can find 200 words to say something as simple as, "play better," when waxing about the U.S. dilemma.

I had 10 or so nice customs in my pool life over the years, starting with a nice cocobolo Scruggs in 1998. Now all I shoot is production butts.

A buddy bought a cheap decal cue for $150 and showed it to me a few weeks ago. It looked nicer than high end custom stuff, no lie, the decals were so well done. I said to him, "you'd have to be nuts to spend 2k on a custom cue today".

iusedtoberich said:

Custom cues are dead. Have been for 15 years.

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3 orders later and then they tell me. So I am just here for the stories and guys making 1-2 cues a year in their garages? Studiotronics is a cue industry plant!

The brand new cloth has less friction, so when the CB squirts sideways, it squirts more than on old cloth. It can be tough to figure out, especially because most players only play on new cloth once per year or two when their local room recovers.

Carom players play on 10' tables using 57" cues...

The cue is sized to your body, rather than the table, imo.

Custom cues are dead. Have been for 15 years.

ribdoner said:

the most loose of the loose is FILLER, the positional routes he chose on a couple of shots were mind bending

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The execution was equally stunning.

dr_dave said:

slick cloth = delayed swerve = more net CB deflection (combined effects of squirt and swerve)

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Yes, especially with more tip offset, more butt elevation and less speed - initial CB deflected direction is unchanged, but final CB direction (“net CB deflection”) is reduced.

pj
chgo

Quesports said:

I’ve been too busy to get involved in this thread so far.

Also I only have time to watch the YouTube videos of the matches…

What I see there is an American team playing very tight and nervous and a Euro team that is taking a stroll in the park.

They are very relaxed and confident while the opposite is true of the American team.

One team is confident and the other is not.

Likely because the Americans expected to lose before this event even started..

Just watch the body language it tells the story of this event perfectly.

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the most loose of the loose is FILLER, the positional routes he chose on a couple of shots were mind bending