I prefer watching 8 ball in general. Much more variety in pattern and method for how a player attacks the rack. Rotation, by definition, removes that aspect since you have to play the balls in order, it can become very obvious how many racks are going to play out after the break. Not so with 8 ball and I like see the path the pros choose to take to run out the rack.

Island Drive said:

Like the 8 ball.... it's more porous, chalk dust clings to it allot faster than a shiny surface.

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Island Drive said:

It's physics plain and simple.

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Lol.

Chris said:

So they get dinged/nicked in the same ways that wood shafts get dinged. Got it.

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Incorrect...aside from major traumas.

Sheldon said:

Most rule sets treat “intentional foul” and “unsportsmanlike conduct” separately:

• A “routine” intentional foul (like taking a deliberate foul to break up a cluster in some games) is usually penalized the same as any other foul: ball‑in‑hand and spotting the 9.reddit
• “Unsportsmanlike conduct” covers actions that bring the sport into disrepute or clearly abuse the rules of fair play (for example, moving balls by hand, sharking, or repeatedly abusing intentional fouls).

Under WPA rules, unsportsmanlike conduct can be penalized as a serious foul, up to loss of rack or stronger discipline, but it is at the referee’s discretion.wpapool

In most modern 9‑ball interpretations, the specific tactic you describe—knowingly fouling to knock in a hanging 9 so it gets spotted—is treated as a perfectly legal tactical foul:

• Common league and tournament guidance explicitly notes that pocketing the 9 on a foul results in the 9 being spotted and ball‑in‑hand, and players sometimes choose this intentionally to avoid leaving an easy win.
• As long as you’re not doing anything outside the normal stroke (like pushing balls around with your hand), it’s usually not considered unsportsmanlike and not loss of game.

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So in 9 ball if the 9 ball is sitting in the corner pocket and I have no shot at it. If I take my cue and hit the 9 directly in the corner with out using the cue ball, this is just a standard foul. The 9 ball is just spotted and the opponent gets ball in hand?

Island Drive said:

I did contact him.... said he's not heard or seen the effects of this.

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nobody has heard of this or seen the effects

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fastone371 said:

In UPUSA rotation rules is your only option to play safe when frozen to the lowest ball on the table??

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The letter of the rule says to me that you should be able to shoot straight into and make another ball and keep shooting...but I don't play UPL so I don't know.

scottypinthemix said:

Maybe because I started playing in the 80s. Maybe I'm stuck in time. I don't know, but I am forever going to be a fiend for ebony points and a white with black speckle linen wrap. That seems to be a less popular aesthetic as of late.
I don't like the leathers wraps. The cue I have now is wrapped in black with white linen and I do like the way it looks, but I am inevitably going to have to snatch one up that appeals to my 'stuck in the past' taste.
Am I alone in this?
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That is one ugly ass cue and thepoints aren't Ebony.

I dig ugly cues.

GideonF said:

That rule is sort of a natural offshoot of their touching ball rule. It’s the snooker based rule - touching a solid you must shoot away from it but you are deemed to have hit the ball you are touching.

Their touching ball rule is weird to me, and especially weird in rotation. If you’re frozen to the 1b you should be able to shoot straight at any other ball, make it, then shoot at the one.

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In UPUSA rotation rules is your only option to play safe when frozen to the lowest ball on the table??

wood rails and all leather pockets for me. quiet and easy to get balls out.

this looks like a usable ball return.

Chris said:

Nobody claimed otherwise.

What was said was that carbon fiber shafts are not impervious to damage, and repairing that damage is not trivial. It was also stated that removing dings from wood shafts in a non-destructive way (e.g., no sanding) is very easy and requires very little time. (The method I use is probably the slowest, and even it usually only requires about an hour, the overwhelming majority of that time spent waiting.)

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Stop it. They aren't even in the same category for durability.

Sooner32 said:

Are yours 4? Mine are just a tad under 4.5. I would struggle on your table for sure.

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With a ruler it measures 4 1/4"- 4 3/8", its deceptive because the one ball is so deep in the pocket to try to line them up in the opening.

fastone371 said:

My GCI pockets

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Are yours 4? Mine are just a tad under 4.5. I would struggle on your table for sure.