Bob Jewett said:

Doing both normal speed and frame at a time, it doesn't look to me like the ball touched the cushion. Neither player had a problem with the call. Evidently, the call was obvious in person.

If you want to see what a cue ball on the cushion looks like, go to 6:36:19. The cue ball during the questioned call looks like it never got with an inch of the rail.

The call was correct, and the ref could see it well enough.

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Bob, this shot makes me wonder whether there is a situation where the table referee can call for a second ref to watch the other part of the shot. Like what if this shot came up hill hill in the World Championship final? Especially if they don’t allow video review.

skogstokig said:

i think it's pretty weird to have a doubles tournament with potential rivals on the same team in conjunction with a WC. jmho.

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Real odd, running simultaneously on top of each other. I think they got stuck probably with scheduling when Matchroom finally announced their events. I remember when Predator first announced Rome, there was going to be a men's event (and presumably a mixed doubles). But at some point later the men's disappeared from the website.

mr3cushion said:

I Never said 'I' was 'Hitting' the CB 'HARD'!

I can understand You Not having any knowledge of 3C techniques/nuances, in the last 60 years there have Not been any Good 3C players from WI!

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nataddrho said:

More arrogance sir?

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is it arrogance if the statement is true?
askin for a friend....

Chopdoc said:

OK.

If this happens I will cut it up and make Christmas ornaments out of it. My wife is a crafter, my daughter is an artist, and I do leather work. My house could compete with Hobby Lobby for supplies. Daughter's work: LINK Videos: LINK 2

We have glitter, glue, paint, yarn, ribbon, leather....you name it, and I have tools.

I will give the first 10 people to kick in $20 to @vintagecollectibles831 a Christmas ornament shipped by December 9th. What is December 9th? A very important day for cue lovers. (first one already goes to Black-Balled)

That's 10 Christmas ornaments made from whatever this thing is made of. And $200 for him.

What could go wrong? How could he lose? He even gets to keep the shaft. That's a $200 shaft.

Am I crazy? Yup.

Oh. And I will make another one for @Sev because he's my Cowboy Cupcake.

Now, let's see what happens....

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I'm in.

336Robin said:

I am not fond of these balls. They absorb energy more so than transferring it.

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That would be a cool trick.

mr3cushion said:

I Never said 'I' was 'Hitting' the CB 'HARD'!

I can understand You Not having any knowledge of 3C techniques/nuances, in the last 60 years there have Not been any Good 3C players from WI!

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More arrogance sir?

The original poster’s attempt to participate in the Forum and share meaningful tips to new players may have been well intended or he just could be so impressed with himself he can’t begin to understand why there’s been such a negative reaction to his remarks. I don’t know this guy but here’s my take on this. I originally tried to point out in my prior post that there are many fundamentals to pool and it’s absurd to argue which one or two are the most salient to master.

There are many things a new player must be aware of and learn to master if they have aspirations to become a really good pool player. Having an instructor helps you improve faster and the best results happen when you and the instructor are on the same page. In order words, their presentation style & teaching methods are easy to comprehend and incorporate. How you present information determines how it will be received.

A simple example is if someone acted in a arrogant, abrasive, demeaning, condescending manner expressing their thoughts, chances their opinions will fall on deaf ears or receive mockery. When that same person presents the same information differently, ears & minds open. Well, not intending to be crude, I fear that it is the last resort and we reached that point. Your presentation style sucks.

Your thread starts out announcing that you’ve reached a conclusion of pool, the truth. What a arrogant opening to use , as if everyone else is misinformed or lying but you discovered the truth as if it was some buried secret you unearthed.

Then you further exacerbate this contemptuous opening with challenging others to refute you. WTF, so you wanna have a discussion showing how brilliant your observations are because no one else could be more right than you so you boast “prove me wrong”. Are you writing your post to genuinely help new players or for your over inflated ego which really seems unwarranted based on your behavior and communications skills?

Then you figuratively stand in the pulpit as if your were preaching to a congregation of new parishioners proclaiming….
Beginners….listen to me……as if you were the solitary authority about anything other than your over inflated ego.

Furthermore, you tell them they’ll be more knowledgeable , i.e., smarter for years to come playing or discussing pool with their peers when they’d more get ridiculed like you’ve been experiencing. It sounds like you still have a lot to learn.

Stop acting like Moses coming down from the mountain top holding stone tablets shouting at your listeners….Hey,
everybody, listen to me even though God wrote these commandments, not me. Here are the two most important commandments to always follow. We’ll discuss the other 8 commandments some later time but follow these two.

If you can’t see your presentation, albeit maybe well intended, was just a flop, you’re a dunce. The first thing to realize
is don’t sound like an authority on something you aren’t qualified to talk about. This is your opinion so state it as such.

The next thing is accept the fact that mastering pool involves a list of things one should strive to control from the outset & only by creating a balance that works for you can progress occur. There aren’t a couple of things to concentrate on.

Use this thread as a learning experience and remember that there is a wealth of expertise on this Forum so exercise more humility so you aren’t public ally spanked in the future. Fair warning, it only gets worse if you fail to change your approach.

That's not a decal.

i think it's pretty weird to have a doubles tournament with potential rivals on the same team in conjunction with a WC. jmho.

vintagecollectibles831 said:

I have learned that the entire cue is a Decal, over the Maple, but I still believe that the figured Maple handle is real.

But if that too is just a Decal, then I guess the cue is just one long POS.

In any case, I feel that it still has value. Seems like such a waste to chop the thing up, into small pieces, lol.

To be honest, the butt has a really great feel to it, and I really love the way it plays with the i3 shaft.

I will end this with saying that I was wrong though. Everything just looked so real to me though. I did not want to believe that the cue was just one giant Decal, lol.

Maybe at least the Figured Maple handle is real though.

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I just bought a brand new cue that is nicely figured.

Real veneered points into stained really nicely figured birdeseye maple.

Six points, 3 high, 3 low.

Real maple dashed rings.

Real linen wrap.

Dead straight.

Surprisingly decent maple shaft.

No brand name.

Sort of a SW style.

$75 brand new.

Made in China. Pretty much as good as most cues costing hundreds.

Why did I buy it? Well, it was dirt cheap, and radial joint. In my collection of over 200 cues I didn't have a single radial joint cue. I might try a CF shaft on it, I don't have one of those either. So, just playing around.

Honestly, it's a good looking cue anyway.

You seem to have a lot of adventures, and misadventures, with cues.