Congrats Danny Harriman DCC 14.1 Challenge Champ!

I apolagize maybe John did say those words, I was sick while playing and felt really fortunate to win which was probably why I was playing extra slow. Also knowone dictates my pace of play, I asked John if he thought I was playing slow and he elequently replied no and said he was just curious as to what the shot clock rules were. When I got back home I fell even more ill and went to the Dr. turns out I had pnuemonia and then got rear ended by a teeny boper with a cell phone so I was not in a great mood when I posted about John. I am not making excuses but John does have mood swings also according to the conditions and or how much $ is at stake when he banged his cue into mine while rushing in on me while I was coming up off the shot - I told him he just hit my cue "are you going to make a production out of it?" I replied "no I am not but you could have said excuse me." He and I are in aggreance on one thing and that is we both want massive amounts of for the next rematch cause I don't want to put up with his desperado tactics and he does not like it when I bad mouth him about his tactics after the match is over.

I also said some kind words to John and congratulated him on the One Pocket win after our last match in Indiana however there was no mention of my sportsmanship from California Jay only John's. But again if he did say that then I apolagize and hopefully he did not have to pull any moves like he did in our last tar challenge (One Pocket) to win the DCC One Pocket. He did not call me any names, argue about rules, and or bump into my cue while I was still partially down on the shot - and so maybe he was on his best behaivor in Indiana. He is a great player indeed but I am sorry to say I did lose some respect for him, even in our first challenge match he swiped a piece of chalk in my direction which was moving fast at me and narrowly avoided me. It was very elusive cause it looked like he was just taking a swipe at the chalk and that if the chalk would have hit me then it would have been an accident. Hopefully it was but I still have my reservations about Mr. 400 when it comes to sportsman like conduct and sharking. He has incredible heart and is a very competative guy it's the name calling and moves I think he could do without - with the exception of these personality traights he is a champ in every sense of the word. If he wanted to bet a thousand on a match I guess he would have played our 3rd tar all around as tar offered him a thousand to play and he made an excuse as to why he would not give me a rematch.
I was heartbroke also stevekur about not being invited and spoke to Pat Fleming about that, he assured me that I would be invited on the next one. I like Pat and have a great deal of respect for hid dedication, it did surprise me when I was not invited to play in Manilla after my bronze medal at the World Championships. I learned while competing at the last World 14.1 someone asked me about why I was not playing in Pat Flemings polytick, good ol' boy invite party(my words) - I did not know what to say cause I was unaware that there was such an event. But I can tell yall this it did hurt my feelings and had an effect on my play while at the last World 14.1 tourney, now that would have been a great move if someone were betting against me in the last world 14.1 tournament and had a hand in making sure I was excluded from cowPat's field of ipt i drink tea big sponsor name favorites(just kina jokin pat.) If anyone from overseas reads my jargon please note that I will fly overseas to play in a major 14.1 event cause in my own Country they (little piggies) make sure that they choose who gets in which gives them the rush of reasurance that their right and keeps their starched white shirts clean while rolling around in the mudd of the 'good ol boy commitee' if they have heard bad roomers on a player then they will exclude them from the field no matter what their list of accomplishments may be.

I think John Shmidt's Dad may have been right, John once said on this forum that his Dad told him " if they keep talking about you then you must be doing something right - even if their talking bad." For me that was a real gem of knowledge.
 
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Danny Harriman said:
I apolagize maybe John did say those words, I was sick while playing the match and fortunate to win then after I got home I found out I had pneumonia. When I posted that reply I still was sick and had just been in a car wreck that was not my fault. I am not making excuses but John does have mood swings also according to the conditions and or how much $ is at stake, I promise everyone on this forum that he deliberately was trying to shark me in our last tar match. When he banged his cue into mine while rushing in on me while I was coming up off the shot. I told him he just hit my cue and instead of saying excuse me he said "are you going to make a production out of it."

I also said some kind words to John and congratulated him on the One Pocket win after our last match in Indiana however there was no mention of my sportsmanship only John's. But again if he did say that then I apolagize and hopefully he did not have to pull any moves like he did in our last tar challenge to win the DCC One Pocket. He did not call me any names, argue about rules, and or bump into my cue while I was still partially down on the shot - and so maybe he was on his best behaivor in Indiana. He is a great player indeed but I am sorry to say I did lose some respect for him, even in our first challenge match he swiped a piece of chalk in my direction which was moving fast at me and narrowly avoided me. It was very elusive cause it looked like he was just taking a swipe at the chalk and that if the chalk would have hit me then it would have been an accident. Hopefully it was but I still have my reservations about Mr. 400 when it comes to sportsman like conduct and sharking. He has incredible heart and is a very competative guy it's the name calling and moves I think he could do without - with the exception of these personality traights he is a champ in every sense of the word. If he wanted to bet a thousand on a match I guess he would have played our 3rd tar all around as tar offered him a thousand to play and he made an excuse as to why he would not give me a rematch.
I was heartbroke also stevekur about not being invited and spoke to Pat Fleming about that, he assured me that I would be invited on the next one. I like Pat and have a great deal of respect for hid dedication, it did surprise me when I was not invited to play in Manilla after my bronze medal at the World Championships. I learned while competing at the last World 14.1 someone asked me about why I was not playing in Pat Flemings polytick, good ol' boy invite party(my words) - I did not know what to say cause I was unaware that there was such an event. But I can tell yall this it did hurt my feelings and had an effect on my play while at the last 14.1, now that would have been a great move if someone were betting against me in the last world 14.1 tournament and had a hand in making sure I was excluded from cowPat's field(just kina jokin pat.) If anyone from overseas reads my jargon please note that I will fly overseas to play in a major 14.1 event cause in my own Country they (little piggies) make sure that they choose who gets in which gives them the rush of reasurance that their right and keeps their starched white shirts clean while rolling around in the mudd of the 'good ol boy commitee' if they have heard bad roomers on a player then they will exclude them from the field no matter what their list of accomplishments may be.

I think John Shmidt's Dad may have been right, John once said on this forum that his Dad told him " if they keep talking about you then you must be doing something right - even if trheir talking bad." For me that was a real gem of knowledge.
fair enough .ive got a game for you danny .

id be willing to take a poll of the top 100 players and ask them some questions.

who is more likely to shark ,whine,want to fight ,say something bad afterwords or basically just act like a jackoff in a money game. john or danny.

we could have them put their answer in a box with nobody knowing their answer .

id be willing to bet at least 5000 of my own money they would pick you .


now ive played tons of money games with all these guys and so have you for the last ten years.

basically what im saying is you need to do some soul searching and quit being a whining,negative, person and realize you have a lot going for you.

if you spent as much time playing tourneys as you did trying to convince everyone im a piece of crap then you might have some sponsors and some big tourney wins.

you know im not as smart as my dad ,not even close but if he met you im sure he would tell you what i just did.
 
This is just me, and in no way wanting to start anything....

What would be cool to me would be to see John and Danny both admit mistakes have been made, by both men. And then them 2 become friends....Can you imagine them 2 teaming up in a 14.1 cometition??? Nobody could touch them.

These 2 guys have more talent in their big toes than most have in their whole body....

I just wish John and Danny the best of luck....I respect them both very much and think the world of them!
 
Well that is creative thinking at it's finest ftgikie and thanks for the kind words, after all we do have some things in common as we are both of Native American ancestry however my tribe is different than his as I could never play with a rigged deck. I wish John the best in his quest to be well liked and in his pool career but I do hope he learns that a man's word is his bond. I don't think John and I will be doing any bonding as we are both stubborn indians - I'm not trying to be pesamistic - that is just my humble opinion - honest Injun.

Peace
 
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Danny Harriman said:
Well that is creative thinking at it's finest ftgikie and thanks for the kind words, after all we do have some things in common as we are both of Native American ancestry however my tribe is different than his as I could never play with a rigged deck. I wish John the best in his quest to be well liked and in his pool career but I do hope he learns that a man's word is his bond. I don't think John and I will be doing any bonding as we are both stubborn indians - I'm not trying to be pesamistic - that is just my humble opinion - honest Injun.

Peace


Cant hurt to try.......Still, I think the world of you 2 guys....you guys are like water and oil......I do with the best for you both!
 
Danny Harriman said:
I wish John the best in his quest to be well liked and in his pool career but I do hope he learns that a man's word is his bond.

Speaking of a man's word being his bond, how about that DVD Danny?

I'm still waiting for some kind of response. I sent numerous emails to the Show Me Productions email, charlesharriman18@yahoo.com (no response) and one to the new email, noncrookedpool@yahoo.com (bounced back, no account). Your AZB mailbox has been full the two times I tried recently. There may not be many of us who have paid and are waiting, but I know I'm not alone.
 
From what I've read of danny's posts, john's offenses are bumping the stick (not during the shot but maybe just after), reaching to swipe the chalk kinda aggressively, calling him a name, and asking about a sidebet. I'm usually pretty fussy about table etiquette but I get the impression danny's looking for things to fault. Maybe I had to be there.

I mean, come on, he aggressively swiped at the chalk? And argued about rules? Really? Those are serious complaints? As for bumping sticks, if it's intentional that's crappy, but are you totally convinced it is? I don't think a guy who plays as good as john needs to abuse the someone's stick just to shark him. And asking for the sidebet doesn't have to be a move, it could just be his way of trying to make the game more serious and bring out his A game.

If john IS a bit of an ass at the table, I think danny's just as bad off the table :/ It seems really passive aggressive to keep making all these insinuations, without being clear whether you truly believe john's doing stuff intentionally or if he's just kinda careless in how he handles himself at the table. And it's very low class to even hint that pat fleming would make a deal with someone and intentionally exclude a player just to get in their head and make them shoot worse in a tournament. I can't believe you'd sling all these insults his way about good-old-boy networks when he already promised to include you in the next one.

PS.. Saying "just kinda kidding" doesn't make it ok, in fact it makes it worse because "kinda" means you're half serious. And I don't even get who or what the little piggies comment is about but it seems that if john occasionally forgets his manners and calls people names, he's not the only one.
 
Danny Harriman said:
I am not making excuses but John does have mood swings also according to the conditions and or how much $ is at stake when he banged his cue into mine while rushing in on me while I was coming up off the shot - I told him he just hit my cue "are you going to make a production out of it?" I replied "no I am not but you could have said excuse me." He and I are in aggreance on one thing and that is we both want massive amounts of for the next rematch cause I don't want to put up with his desperado tactics and he does not like it when I bad mouth him about his tactics after the match is over.

Danny, I think its time to let this incident go. Its unfortunate if it really did go down as you say it did but you let John know how you felt about it and its time to move on. If John is wise he will learn from the incident and be more careful in the future with his player relations. That goes for you too.

Congratulations on the straight pool win, I enjoyed watching you play as always. Keep it up!
 
Quit Crying --Just play for the cash

fair enough .ive got a game for you danny .

id be willing to take a poll of the top 100 players and ask them some questions.

who is more likely to shark ,whine,want to fight ,say something bad afterwords or basically just act like a jackoff in a money game. john or danny.

we could have them put their answer in a box with nobody knowing their answer .

id be willing to bet at least 5000 of my own money they would pick you .


now ive played tons of money games with all these guys and so have you for the last ten years.

basically what im saying is you need to do some soul searching and quit being a whining,negative, person and realize you have a lot going for you.

if you spent as much time playing tourneys as you did trying to convince everyone im a piece of crap then you might have some sponsors and some big tourney wins.

you know im not as smart as my dad ,not even close but if he met you im sure he would tell you what i just did.

It is quite funny to watch both of you guys go at with each other. Why dont you guys just do what Keith would do. Put up that cash and try to bust the other guy. Settle it on the table
 
And it's very low class to even hint that pat fleming would make a deal with someone and intentionally exclude a player just to get in their head and make them shoot worse in a tournament. I can't believe you'd sling all these insults his way about good-old-boy networks when he already promised to include you in the next one.

Would it be low class to think that Pat Fleming would exclude higher ranked players in favor of lower ranked to recieve paid entries to MPBA tournaments while he was serving as MPBA president? Because it did happen. Trust me. I know for sure. Several thousand dollars worth at 500 a pop. Next time doesn't cut it in these situations.

Pat pays what percentage to the players for accu-stats?
 
Alright, I'll bite. I guess I don't get this scandal. How's this work and what's his motivation?

As for accu-stats not paying a cut to the players - I'm not sure if it ought to. They aren't being rebroadcast and the players know about it. I never heard of one complaining about it. It started out as a way to track player statistics and became a way to just watch high level pool. It's not that I don't want the players to make extra money, I know they should be able to make more... but if it means the price of the videos goes up and sales goes down, it can't be good for pool in general. I have the feeling accu-stats is a pretty small operation and isn't in it to gouge anyone. I never hear that he got rich off of it.
 
Your right you were not there

Creedo I have to say that your post is low class, I never said Pat was doing anything other than keeping some of the top talent away from the field. Please do not confuse my post with the unknown pro's post. To help assist the good ol boy committee, Pat said he owed Johhny Archer's sponsor a favor or he would have considered me instaed of Johnny and I would be in on the next one - BZZt Pat - I won't be there more than likely. I do believe that the best players in the World were missing from the field due to politics yes. Pat has allways been square with me concerning my residual income from an accu-stats tape, I just thought I earned the right to be in on anything concerning 14.1. If you disagree with that then your wall is way too high for me to even fathom. As far as John Schmidt, after one shot he walked into me intentionally so that he could be in close quarters with me and it nearly knocked my cue out of my hand, he never said excuse me and I was still down on the shot. He was just one of the worst opponents I have ever had to play when it comes to sportsmanship, I like your avatar but I do believe your a member of the harriman hate club. Ahh another happy customer.
 
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I respect your game and many have said you're a class act danny, but I must not understand something... you said:

"now that would have been a great move if someone were betting against me in the last world 14.1 tournament and had a hand in making sure I was excluded from cowPat's field(just kina jokin pat.)"

If you're just joking that's one thing but I get the impression you half believe it. If you don't believe it then you probably shouldn't make that kind of "joke" cuz I don't think it's funny, it puts doubt into people's heads about Pat's character because it implies he made a deal with someone just to get at you.

I guess I can imagine a scenario where you're not bashing pat, maybe you're just saying he got 'duped' into leaving you out by some third party who wanted to mess with your head. But with all the little potshots about "cowPat and his good ole boys" I think you're just bashing him and that's not cool.

I don't blame him for putting up archer in place of you either. His high run may not be up to yours but in all other respects he's exactly the kind of player you'd want for such an event... and he's a much bigger name in pool. Leaving you out isn't some personal slight, he just felt a different player was a better choice that year, and you taking it personally and accusing pat of shenanigans just makes you look bad.
 
Your right and wrong

Creedo you do sound like you have a little something upstairs so I will bite as you say. In the pool world of straight pool Archer might get his stinger stepped on playing me 14.1, I think it's people like you who don't want to give me any respect for my list of accomplishments that are quite possibly jealous. Sorry I won't give in to your instigation ploy and go on and on about how great I play and make myself look bad. There are many other players beside myself that deserve to be there over Johnny Archer, including, Max Eberle, and some of the European players.

I just thought in my own home Country when it came to 14.1 my record at the World Championships is more solid by a long shot than most of the players that got invited. If your ever at a top 14.1 event and you get lucky and qualify so that you and I get to play, bring your a game - Creedo. The process in which players are selected is very non democratic, I did lose some respect for Fleming and his outfit at Comet billiards. There are no excuses to be made, if I would have known about the event than I would have come running to play. One day they (the people in their ivory towers) will see how silly they were for keeping the top talent away from the field due to politcs. Besides I was only agreeing with a post that the unknown pro made and I do believe he is right, I should have been invited as 14.1 events are scarce and I do alot to help promote 14.1 here in the Midwest. There should not be any questions in even your mind about that if you think rationally. But you have the right to your opinion - however wrong it may be!
good day
 
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In the pool world of straight pool Archer might get his stinger stepped on playing me 14.1

That's some funny sh1t!

Danny, I wouldn't sweat anything. Most educated people know how you play 14.1 and 1P.

Maybe people don't give you respect because your hair is so perfect...so perfectly parted without one hair out of place! Maybe you should spike it up a little bit--- be a little wild...

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