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The times I have had Earl on a live stream the viewers have doubled ,even
tripled .Of course that is just a spectator/live streamers view, I'm sure in John's
case it's a whole other ordeal to be on the same team and have to deal with it .
The times I have had Earl on a live stream the viewers have doubled ,even
tripled .Of course that is just a spectator/live streamers view, I'm sure in John's
case it's a whole other ordeal to be on the same team and have to deal with it .
Strictly from the perspective of a fan, I want to see Earl on the team before anyone else.
Yeah, he's volatile and unpredictable and he can be a jerk, but he brings personality to the game (how you feel about that personality is your own affair).
NEVER was tennis more popular than when John McEnroe was in his heyday- did people love him personally? Some did, many didn't, but EVERYBODY watched his matches- he brought a whole generation to their television sets on week-ends (I used to watch him, and I was never a fan before he started playing), and many of them took up the game.
Like McEnroe, Earl is a polarizing figure- love him or hate him (I love to watch him play) he brings interest and coverage to the sport (and, since he has the skills to back up his antics, that's not necessarily a bad thing)- anything that increases viewership and interest in pool is, in the end, good for everybody- the robot-like play of many Asian players is pretty tough to watch at times as it's boring (even though the quality approaches perfection occasionally) and doesn't make you really want to get into the poolroom- Earl makes you feel like picking up a cue and learning the game.
I would like to see Earl on the team as well, but I want to see Earl on the table and not on the crowd. He seems to have no ability to deal with stress in a productive manner and until he does he don't want to see him on the Mosconi Cup team.
Awesome! :thumbup: See how many players bang their heads on the table!
Yep,,no doubt you guys love seeing Earl on the team. He is the best player on Europes team and not smart enough to figure this out!!
I'm just curious, but what are Earl's wins on Mosconi Cup? I had thought, subject to check, that they were higher than some of his team counterparts.
Where can we find this info?
Im all for John and what he is doing. I think him being on the team would be a positive thing. And for him to donate to the bca billiards for youth foundation....that just makes it even better. If its to promote pool....Im all in!
Good luck John and hope you get your spot on the team!:thumbup:
Good luck John and hope you get your spot on the team!:thumbup:
yeah Earl has an impressive Mosconi Cup resume, blah, blah, blah. Jack Nicklaus has an impressive Ryder Cup resume but he isn't on the team anymore. Why? Because his playing ability no longer warrants it. PERIOD.
He'll probably get chosen again because his antics are entertaining. And I'm not saying that is right or wrong. If it were my entity putting the cup on, then I might choose him too.
My point is that purely based on being one of the 5 best players by today's playing ability, Earl isn't even close.
It all comes down to whether the US Team wants a win or if they want ratings. I'm guessing the other members who almost all do not want Earl on the team have no say in the matter, which is bassackwards to the Ryder Cup. Letting Matchroom Sports have any say in the composition of either team is really a shame.
He'll probably get chosen again because his antics are entertaining. And I'm not saying that is right or wrong. If it were my entity putting the cup on, then I might choose him too.
My point is that purely based on being one of the 5 best players by today's playing ability, Earl isn't even close.
It all comes down to whether the US Team wants a win or if they want ratings. I'm guessing the other members who almost all do not want Earl on the team have no say in the matter, which is bassackwards to the Ryder Cup. Letting Matchroom Sports have any say in the composition of either team is really a shame.
First off, I'd be surprised if Earl is ever booted from the team. True, he creates dissension on the US team and is even shunned by other team members. But I've been to two of the recent Mosconi Cups in Vegas, and all you have to do is see how the European fans love to "interact" with him. It's a complete love/hate fest between Earl and the Europeans. For the Cup, particularly for TV in Europe, Earl is a must.
So that leaves you the public vote, and if you're going to ask for support from those here, I think you should be upfront about your physical condition.
It's already been mentioned here a couple of times -- so I don't think I'm letting the cat out of the bag -- so what is going on with your arm, or collar bone, and what is the prognosis, given the Mosconi Cup is just a few months away?
Personally, I think you'd be a great addition to the team. I just think you've taken an ill advised approach here, because Earl is, for all intents and purposes, already on the team.
Lou Figueroa
From the Mosconi Cup website - http://www.mosconicup.com/article_detail.asp?article_id=41
Prior to the 2008 event -
Strickland, 47, is playing in his 13th consecutive Mosconi Cup, a record for the event, and has won a fantastic 37 points from 56 matches.
Despite his well-documented bust-ups at the Mosconi Cup, Strickland's record in the event is the best of the 61 players who have participated in the competition in its 14 year history.
Then in 2008, it appears that Earl won two more matches and lost two-
M4 Doubles match - Drago / Gray 3-5 Strickland / Archer Europe lead 3-1
M6 Singles - Tony Drago 4-5 Earl Strickland Europe lead 4-2
M8 Singles Captains' Picks- Mika Immonen 5-0 Earl Strickland Europe lead 5-3
M9 Doubles match - Feijen / Souquet 5-1 Strickland / Morris Europe lead 6-3
Then in the final 7 matches of the event, Earl didn't play one match. Interesting. Was it because he only won one game out of the last 11 he played in?
To be fair, the USA only won 5 matches last year - with Earl winning two of them.
And from Earl's profile page: Describe yourself: Generous, witty, sometimes moody, dedicated, passionate about pool, and respectful.
Prior to the 2008 event -
Strickland, 47, is playing in his 13th consecutive Mosconi Cup, a record for the event, and has won a fantastic 37 points from 56 matches.
Despite his well-documented bust-ups at the Mosconi Cup, Strickland's record in the event is the best of the 61 players who have participated in the competition in its 14 year history.
Then in 2008, it appears that Earl won two more matches and lost two-
M4 Doubles match - Drago / Gray 3-5 Strickland / Archer Europe lead 3-1
M6 Singles - Tony Drago 4-5 Earl Strickland Europe lead 4-2
M8 Singles Captains' Picks- Mika Immonen 5-0 Earl Strickland Europe lead 5-3
M9 Doubles match - Feijen / Souquet 5-1 Strickland / Morris Europe lead 6-3
Then in the final 7 matches of the event, Earl didn't play one match. Interesting. Was it because he only won one game out of the last 11 he played in?
To be fair, the USA only won 5 matches last year - with Earl winning two of them.
And from Earl's profile page: Describe yourself: Generous, witty, sometimes moody, dedicated, passionate about pool, and respectful.
Just a reminder of how the teams will be picked
How the Mosconi Cup sides will be picked
06 Aug 2009
MATCHROOM SPORT can announce the composition of both sides to take part in the 2009 PartyCasino.net Mosconi Cup which takes place from 10-13 December at the MGM Grand, Las Vegas.
Each team is composed of five players and Team Europe shall be made up of the following:
1. The No.1 ranked player on the Euro Tour at conclusion of Dutch Open on 19 September.
2. Any player ranked in the ET Top 16 at conclusion of Dutch Open on 19 September.
3. Any player ranked in the ET Top 16 at conclusion of Dutch Open on 19 September.
4. Any player
5. Any player
The first three players will be announced after the Dutch Open and the other two at the conclusion of the US Open on the 25th October. Players 2-5 will be selected by Matchroom Sport.
Team USA will be made up of the following five players:
1. The No.1 ranked player on the BCA Points List at the conclusion of the US Open on 25th October.
2. The No.2 ranked player on the BCA Points List at the conclusion of the US Open on 25th October.
3. Any player
4. Any player
5. The winner of a 'Mosconi Cup Idol' public vote.
Players 1 & 2 will be announced at the close of the US Open, while players 3 & 4 will be announced in September. Players 3 & 4 will be selected by Matchroom Sport.
Since Team USA's comprehensive defeats in '07 and '08, there has plenty of spirited debate as to who should play in order to help turn the tide for Team USA.
On that basis, Matchroom Sport will be using a public vote to select the final member of the American team. Taking place on www.matchroompool.com , a short list will be compiled and will then be thrown open to a public vote!
Further details of this will follow.
How the Mosconi Cup sides will be picked
06 Aug 2009
MATCHROOM SPORT can announce the composition of both sides to take part in the 2009 PartyCasino.net Mosconi Cup which takes place from 10-13 December at the MGM Grand, Las Vegas.
Each team is composed of five players and Team Europe shall be made up of the following:
1. The No.1 ranked player on the Euro Tour at conclusion of Dutch Open on 19 September.
2. Any player ranked in the ET Top 16 at conclusion of Dutch Open on 19 September.
3. Any player ranked in the ET Top 16 at conclusion of Dutch Open on 19 September.
4. Any player
5. Any player
The first three players will be announced after the Dutch Open and the other two at the conclusion of the US Open on the 25th October. Players 2-5 will be selected by Matchroom Sport.
Team USA will be made up of the following five players:
1. The No.1 ranked player on the BCA Points List at the conclusion of the US Open on 25th October.
2. The No.2 ranked player on the BCA Points List at the conclusion of the US Open on 25th October.
3. Any player
4. Any player
5. The winner of a 'Mosconi Cup Idol' public vote.
Players 1 & 2 will be announced at the close of the US Open, while players 3 & 4 will be announced in September. Players 3 & 4 will be selected by Matchroom Sport.
Since Team USA's comprehensive defeats in '07 and '08, there has plenty of spirited debate as to who should play in order to help turn the tide for Team USA.
On that basis, Matchroom Sport will be using a public vote to select the final member of the American team. Taking place on www.matchroompool.com , a short list will be compiled and will then be thrown open to a public vote!
Further details of this will follow.
lol, and Tony Chohan sometimes hauls pot.
BCA points for the 1st 2 picks
Thanks Roy for posting the selection criteria. Seems many are not familiar with the brand new selection process. The cries of "let's have 'em match up for a spot", and "we gotta pick what's best for the team" are, with all due respect, useless fodder.
I'm posting the current BCA points list below. Archer has a solid lead and is darn near a cinch, assuming he stays active. From there, there's realistically 12 americans vying for the 2nd automatic spot. There's only @ 140 points separating 2nd from 12!
For points perspective, the 2008 US Open gave 189 BCA points to the winner, and 162, 135 & 108 for 2nd thru 4th respectively. I do not know points breakdowns on other remaining BCA point events.
It's wide open for the 2nd spot!! Let's assume choosing Earl is a foregone conclusion, then I'm thinking if SVB does not get an automatic spot, then Matchroom will have a tough choice on breaking up the Rodney/Earl tandem of yore (assuming Rodney doesn't get 2nd in points).
BCA Points
1 Johnny Archer 437.0
2 Mika Immonen 418.5
3 Ralf Souquet 403.3
4 Corey Deuel 317.5
5 Shawn Putnam 311.8
6 Charlie Williams 300.0
7 Warren Kiamco 281.0
8 Thorsten Hohmann 276.0
9 Oscar Dominguez 276.0
10 Shane Van Boening 248.3
11 Charlie Bryant 243.0
12 John Schmidt 236.8
13 Stevie Moore 234.3
14 Rodney Morris 223.5
15 Raj Hundal 222.3
16 Jeremy Jones 216.5
17 Dennis Hatch 208.5
18 Tony Robles 175.8
Thanks Roy for posting the selection criteria. Seems many are not familiar with the brand new selection process. The cries of "let's have 'em match up for a spot", and "we gotta pick what's best for the team" are, with all due respect, useless fodder.
I'm posting the current BCA points list below. Archer has a solid lead and is darn near a cinch, assuming he stays active. From there, there's realistically 12 americans vying for the 2nd automatic spot. There's only @ 140 points separating 2nd from 12!
For points perspective, the 2008 US Open gave 189 BCA points to the winner, and 162, 135 & 108 for 2nd thru 4th respectively. I do not know points breakdowns on other remaining BCA point events.
It's wide open for the 2nd spot!! Let's assume choosing Earl is a foregone conclusion, then I'm thinking if SVB does not get an automatic spot, then Matchroom will have a tough choice on breaking up the Rodney/Earl tandem of yore (assuming Rodney doesn't get 2nd in points).
BCA Points
1 Johnny Archer 437.0
2 Mika Immonen 418.5
3 Ralf Souquet 403.3
4 Corey Deuel 317.5
5 Shawn Putnam 311.8
6 Charlie Williams 300.0
7 Warren Kiamco 281.0
8 Thorsten Hohmann 276.0
9 Oscar Dominguez 276.0
10 Shane Van Boening 248.3
11 Charlie Bryant 243.0
12 John Schmidt 236.8
13 Stevie Moore 234.3
14 Rodney Morris 223.5
15 Raj Hundal 222.3
16 Jeremy Jones 216.5
17 Dennis Hatch 208.5
18 Tony Robles 175.8
Thanks for posting that up. That's very informative. :smile:
Has this been updated since Oscar won Turning Stone?
No JAM (Good thing I didn't typo a T there,
), great point as Turning Stone is a BCA point event. It appears BCA points are awarded on very select tournamenets. There's only 6 tourneys listed on AZB's BCA points list and 3 are from last year!
Event 1: 2008 Generationpool.com 9-Ball Championship
Event 2: 2008 Turning Stone Classic XI
Event 3: 2008 US Open 9-Ball Championship
Event 4: 2009 Turning Stone Classic XII
Event 5: 2009 Pro Player Championship
Event 6: 2009 International 10-Ball Championship
I'm going to tally an updated (unofficial as hell) BCA points list to reflect results after Turning Stone.
Uno momentito...
No JAM (Good thing I didn't typo a T there,
It appears BCA points are awarded on very select tournamenets. There's only 6 tourneys listed on AZB's BCA points list and 3 are from last year!
Event 1: 2008 Generationpool.com 9-Ball Championship
Event 2: 2008 Turning Stone Classic XI
Event 3: 2008 US Open 9-Ball Championship
Event 4: 2009 Turning Stone Classic XII
Event 5: 2009 Pro Player Championship
Event 6: 2009 International 10-Ball Championship
I'm going to tally an updated (unofficial as hell) BCA points list to reflect results after Turning Stone.
Uno momentito...
Cool! As Smorgie would say, I'm waiting with baited breath!
earl strickland an jermmy jones
i understand most of u on this thread do not want earl on this years team, becuase he has not won any major event in awhile or they way he conducts himself. what about jeremmy jones when is the last time he won anything i think he is on the team becuase he has alittle extra cash to throw around .
i think earl is a better player than mr. jones even right now at this day an time. just my 2 cents professor1967
i understand most of u on this thread do not want earl on this years team, becuase he has not won any major event in awhile or they way he conducts himself. what about jeremmy jones when is the last time he won anything i think he is on the team becuase he has alittle extra cash to throw around .
i think earl is a better player than mr. jones even right now at this day an time. just my 2 cents professor1967
i understand most of u on this thread do not want earl on this years team, becuase he has not won any major event in awhile or they way he conducts himself. what about jeremmy jones when is the last time he won anything i think he is on the team becuase he has alittle extra cash to throw around .
.......He does?