Why don't champions match up more?

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For the most part...it's all because..Who really wants tough as nails action ? It's just like a street fight...I know all u out there know your local tough guys..I use to be concidered & am still concidered down here as somebody that can handle their own...been in at least 200 street fights...out of all them fights..maybe 20 or so i had my hands full...as far as the rest of the locals that had a reputation...we were all good friends out of mutual respect of each other...we all knew that we wouldsurely have to bring our lunch if we was to mess with each other...I think it's the same thing with top pool players...Once someone has proven their ability to compete at a high level...the other alpha males dont like back down but don't go openly challenge either cuz they know it will be quite a battle...I've staked many of champion pool players & the 1 thing that keeps them with any kinda edge is that they got to know they can win..not think that they have a chance in the game...when a player gets doubts in a match..that will usually be the beginning of the end.


ps..as i'm getting older...I really dont like to fight...I will go out my way not to..but still will if the other guy won't take the high road also...was just using it as a example from own experiences.
 
For the most part...it's all because..Who really wants tough as nails action ? It's just like a street fight...I know all u out there know your local tough guys..I use to be concidered & am still concidered down here as somebody that can handle their own...been in at least 200 street fights...out of all them fights..maybe 20 or so i had my hands full...as far as the rest of the locals that had a reputation...we were all good friends out of mutual respect of each other...we all knew that we wouldsurely have to bring our lunch if we was to mess with each other...I think it's the same thing with top pool players...Once someone has proven their ability to compete at a high level...the other alpha males dont like back down but don't go openly challenge either cuz they know it will be quite a battle...I've staked many of champion pool players & the 1 thing that keeps them with any kinda edge is that they got to know they can win..not think that they have a chance in the game...when a player gets doubts in a match..that will usually be the beginning of the end.


ps..as i'm getting older...I really dont like to fight...I will go out my way not to..but still will if the other guy won't take the high road also...was just using it as a example from own experiences.

I can't put fighting with someone on the same level as matching up and gambling with someone. Although you do make some excellent points. Some people just don't wanna risk their spot in the pecking order. I feel the level of play (which don't get me wrong, our pros play very well) would get even better. Everyone has seen people that stay in action that always get better. Constantly improving. I love to match up when I can. It is tough though. Book a few losers and you are back to the 9-5 (which I work for a living anyway). No one likes to lose but it sure does seem that a lot of great players shy away from using what they have through fear of a loss.

Hope you don't have to whoop up on anyone for the rest of your days,btw.:)
 
I think the fact that poker has been thrust into the spotlight has taken much of the pool gambling money out of the economy. I know that in my local area many of the guys who used to gamble a bit on the pool table would sooner take their cash to the other green felt and play poker.

If you find anything bigger than $20 sets it's pretty uncommon here yet the same guys who won't gamble on the table unless they getting handed the stone cold nuts will ship hundreds into a poker game they just can't beat.
 
I can't put fighting with someone on the same level as matching up and gambling with someone.

Hope you don't have to whoop up on anyone for the rest of your days,btw.:)

To a really serious pool player....they take it just as serious as a street fight..some of the really good players would get in the brink of tears when they lost a hard match....when they put their all into it and still came up short..it's not that they are scared to play but they won't go out their way to play someone that they know has the fire power to beat them if they slip up just a little...The only ones that you here of these days gambling it up to no ends are the lil jons & scooters cuz they havn't got to the top yet & are still trying to prove themselves & any champion wouldn't have to be asked twice by them to get in the grease because they know they havn't got there yet & have more gamble than sense right now...just they way i relate to in from my own experiences.
 
To a really serious pool player....they take it just as serious as a street fight..some of the really good players would get in the brink of tears when they lost a hard match....when they put their all into it and still came up short..it's not that they are scared to play but they won't go out their way to play someone that they know has the fire power to beat them if they slip up just a little...The only ones that you here of these days gambling it up to no ends are the lil jons & scooters cuz they havn't got to the top yet & are still trying to prove themselves & any champion wouldn't have to be asked twice by them to get in the grease because they know they havn't got there yet & have more gamble than sense right now...just they way i relate to in from my own experiences.

I agree with what your saying there. But avoiding a fight is different than avoiding playing someone a set. I avoid fights because of I don't want someone to sue me, me hurt them, they hurt me. Gambling,,, the only thing that keeps me from playing is cash. If I wanna play and got some cash, you can bet I'm matched up or looking for it.
 
I agree with what your saying there. But avoiding a fight is different than avoiding playing someone a set. I avoid fights because of I don't want someone to sue me, me hurt them, they hurt me. Gambling,,, the only thing that keeps me from playing is cash. If I wanna play and got some cash, you can bet I'm matched up or looking for it.

I was only using it as a comparison..lol....You'll hardly ever hear of the two baddest guys in town getting in a fight...TOO TOUGH OF ACTION !!! but if tough guy #1 f...ed with tough guy #2's wife or girlfriend then you'd see one hell of a fight....other than that they give each other their own space....lol:)...my point was that with top pool players...If they play anybody & everybody and say they get on a little losing streak..their confidence is gone...so in the long run it would be great for their game but in the here & now it would be down right suicide if they got beat too many times in a short period of time...just my take on it...i've tried to stake some great players against some other great players & have got the same answer from many of them...Why mess with him..He's really tough action...that's when i was more gun ho...now i'm more like the rest of em and want to feel my player got a lil the best of it.
 
tanco...Okay, you got me! :grin: That was a mistake on my part (and it wasn't even Mr. Matlock that I was talking about). I did apologize for making the comment at all. One mistake in 5000 posts, made over a decade here, isn't too bad (and hardly constitutes "badmouthing the pros all the time")!

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

Posted by Scott Lee on 11/28/2008

Scott Lee
"yeah, but you have to be careful...Matlock is the original bite artist. This is not a slam on Dave...but anybody who knows him at all, knows this.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com"
 
hi

I have been into helping your career John. In every thread where you got into it with somebody I've taken your side (except this one and I didn't take anybodys side in this one). I bought the DVD's of your 245 ball run, your race to 400 w/Harriman and your Exactly How I run 100's DVD. Two weeks ago I made a nice sized deposit directly into your paypal account and bought the cue case signed by you and Nick and which was shown on What's In The Case on youtube.

heres the deal.when im out in public and two people are going at it,i mind my business. nobody asked you to chime in and lecture me and scott.
many posts youve scolded me talking like your my father or something.
nobody asked you for your opinion of me and scott .also you didnt buy that stuff from me to be nice you bought it to help your game and i hope it did.
you bought the case from a guy i gave it too he just used my paypal.
i must be in the twilight zone or something.you say youve always taken my side.
i can read you know jim.many of your posts you are lecturing and scolding people including me like what you think is important.
when i say something i use my full name and people know whos saying it.
at least with scott i know whos insulting me.
if it would make you feel better light the case and dvds on fire ,makes no difference to me.
im not indebted to you for life because you bought 35 dollars worth of dvds and then feel like everytime i say something you dont like ,you tell me im a punk and set pool back 20 years blah blah.
frankly im tired of trying to be the azb darling.
if all 1000 people on here love me it wont change my career,and if all 1000 hate me it wont change it either.
so im done giving a shit ,im done listening too 1000 phantoms behind a computer tell me off.
again you started it jim with your post.i would never even say a cross word to you otherwise but im sick of all the know it all,wanna be ,finger pointing,this is what you need to do,i used to be great at pool,pool players are broke,hiding behind keyboards telling people off idiots on here.
im a target on here because im a good player and most on heres knows me and i dont know them so its like a hobby to tell me off.
im not saying you have to worship me or like me but just give me a break with all the hater b.s.

p.s. all this is directed at a small percentage on here.you know who you are.
god this azb makes me nuts,im a happy person with tons of friends but the haters on here make me want to shoot myself. thank god im not a real celeb ,because i could not take the crap that would be in the inquirer everyday lol.
 
frankly im tired of trying to be the azb darling.

I think you are doing a good job being the AZB-darling :D You can't please all the folks. Not in real life, and especially not here on AZB. Don't even try. Let it go, play some golf and pool and prepare for the next tournament instead :)
 
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heres the deal.when im out in public and two people are going at it,i mind my business. nobody asked you to chime in and lecture me and scott.
many posts youve scolded me talking like your my father or something.
nobody asked you for your opinion of me and scott .also you didnt buy that stuff from me to be nice you bought it to help your game and i hope it did.
you bought the case from a guy i gave it too he just used my paypal.
i must be in the twilight zone or something.you say youve always taken my side.
i can read you know jim.many of your posts you are lecturing and scolding people including me like what you think is important.
when i say something i use my full name and people know whos saying it.
at least with scott i know whos insulting me.
if it would make you feel better light the case and dvds on fire ,makes no difference to me.
im not indebted to you for life because you bought 35 dollars worth of dvds and then feel like everytime i say something you dont like ,you tell me im a punk and set pool back 20 years blah blah.
frankly im tired of trying to be the azb darling.
if all 1000 people on here love me it wont change my career,and if all 1000 hate me it wont change it either.
so im done giving a shit ,im done listening too 1000 phantoms behind a computer tell me off.
again you started it jim with your post.i would never even say a cross word to you otherwise but im sick of all the know it all,wanna be ,finger pointing,this is what you need to do,i used to be great at pool,pool players are broke,hiding behind keyboards telling people off idiots on here.
im a target on here because im a good player and most on heres knows me and i dont know them so its like a hobby to tell me off.
im not saying you have to worship me or like me but just give me a break with all the hater b.s.

p.s. all this is directed at a small percentage on here.you know who you are.
god this azb makes me nuts,im a happy person with tons of friends but the haters on here make me want to shoot myself. thank god im not a real celeb ,because i could not take the crap that would be in the inquirer everyday lol.

John, please know that I respect you as a person, as well as a professional pool player. In fact, every time I have seen you in the past, you have always displayed a very pleasant disposition.

That said, I am having trouble swallowing the words you are writing to JimS. At first, I was wondering if maybe you were taking some medication for your injury which could be causing you to feel a little cantankerous. We all have moments when things get to us on this forum, though. I think I know that better than anybody. :grin-devilish:

JimS is one of the kindest, sweetest, nicest members of this forum, at least in my opinion. I hate to see him get slammed on this thread. Don't lower yourself, John, to exhibit some of the very haters' behaviors on this forum that you have expressed you don't care for. :shakehead:

I hope you are able to concentrate on the things that matter in life. Peace to you and yours, and I wish you the very best in all of your pool endeavors. I hope you take my post in the spirit that it is meant. :)
 
hi

John, please know that I respect you as a person, as well as a professional pool player. In fact, every time I have seen you in the past, you have always displayed a very pleasant disposition.

That said, I am having trouble swallowing the words you are writing to JimS. At first, I was wondering if maybe you were taking some medication for your injury which could be causing you to feel a little cantankerous. We all have moments when things get to us on this forum, though. I think I know that better than anybody. :grin-devilish:

JimS is one of the kindest, sweetest, nicest members of this forum, at least in my opinion. I hate to see him get slammed on this thread. Don't lower yourself, John, to exhibit some of the very haters' behaviors on this forum that you have expressed you don't care for. :shakehead:

I hope you are able to concentrate on the things that matter in life. Peace to you and yours, and I wish you the very best in all of your pool endeavors. I hope you take my post in the spirit that it is meant. :)

to be honest maybe im confusing him for another jim s.after all the stuff i read so far.if hes not the guy than sorry jim. sure hes a great guy but hes got a thing for telling me how to act,talk,carry myself ,etc etc etc etc etc etc etc.you jenny are a sweetheart though say hi to keith for me.
 
I give SVB a lot of credit. He plays anyone 9 or 10-ball and never asks for a spot that I have heard of. There are a few more in the US like him...but only a small few. Johnnyt


Ok, seriously :confused: There is a reason SVB doesnt ask for a spot.... HE DOESNT NEED ONE!!!!!!!! He's good enough to play ANYONE straight up.
 
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