Does Your Opinion Count?

lfigueroa

lfigueroa

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Recently, on "All My Children," a better than average player :-) opined:

"frankly im tired of trying to be the azb darling.
if all 1000 people on here love me it wont change my career,and if all 1000 hate me it wont change it either.
so im done giving a shit ,im done listening too 1000 phantoms behind a computer tell me off.
...im sick of all the know it all,wanna be ,finger pointing,this is what you need to do,i used to be great at pool,pool players are broke,hiding behind keyboards telling people off idiots on here."

Soooo, my question is, in this day of internetness: does what we say and think here -- as fans, students of the game, railbirds, stakehorses, nits, and players ourselves -- matter?

Can what we say and think of a player here, affect their career?

Does opinion, as expressed here, change anything?

I know that over on onepocket.org, the members can vote someone into the Hall of Fame. Now it seems, we can vote someone onto the US Mosconi Cup team. Group will power here seems to be able to magically get people their money, or cue, back from transactions gone bad. We all choose to lend our support (or not) to different events and endeavors. Players come here to seek financial support to enter major tournaments. And there's the usual hawking of player generated and endorsed stuff.

So, do you think any of this adds up to a hill of beans?

Lou Figueroa
 
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lfigueroa said:
Recently, on "All My Children," a better than average player :-) opined:

"frankly im tired of trying to be the azb darling.
if all 1000 people on here love me it wont change my career,and if all 1000 hate me it wont change it either.
so im done giving a shit ,im done listening too 1000 phantoms behind a computer tell me off.
...im sick of all the know it all,wanna be ,finger pointing,this is what you need to do,i used to be great at pool,pool players are broke,hiding behind keyboards telling people off idiots on here."

Soooo, my question is, in this day of internetness: does what we say and think here -- as fans, students of the game, railbirds, stakehorses, nits, and players ourselves -- matter?

Can what we say and think of a player here, affect their career?

Does opinion, as expressed here, change anything?

I know that over on onepocket.org, the members can vote someone into the Hall of Fame. Now it seems, we can vote someone onto the US Mosconi Cup team. Group will power here seems to be able to magically get people their money, or cue, back from transactions gone bad. We all choose to lend our support (or not) to different events and endeavors. Players come here to seek financial support to enter major tournaments. And there's the usual hawking of player generated and endorsed stuff.

So, do you think any of this adds up to a hill of beans?

Lou Figueroa
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i think what people like you say matters.the people who dont matter in my opinion are the ones who constantly spew crap and are negative constantly.
99 percent on here are great but the 1 percent ,oh my god.
 
I am pretty damn sure what I say here doesn't mean jack squat :)

But, there are definately people on here whose words make a difference...

Brian
 
john schmidt said:
i think what people like you say matters.the people who dont matter in my opinion are the ones who constantly spew crap and are negative constantly.
99 percent on here are great but the 1 percent ,oh my god.
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Well said John !
 
lfigueroa said:
Recently, on "All My Children," a better than average player :-) opined:

"frankly im tired of trying to be the azb darling.
if all 1000 people on here love me it wont change my career,and if all 1000 hate me it wont change it either.
so im done giving a shit ,im done listening too 1000 phantoms behind a computer tell me off.
...im sick of all the know it all,wanna be ,finger pointing,this is what you need to do,i used to be great at pool,pool players are broke,hiding behind keyboards telling people off idiots on here."

Soooo, my question is, in this day of internetness: does what we say and think here -- as fans, students of the game, railbirds, stakehorses, nits, and players ourselves -- matter?

Can what we say and think of a player here, affect their career?

Does opinion, as expressed here, change anything?

I know that over on onepocket.org, the members can vote someone into the Hall of Fame. Now it seems, we can vote someone onto the US Mosconi Cup team. Group will power here seems to be able to magically get people their money, or cue, back from transactions gone bad. We all choose to lend our support (or not) to different events and endeavors. Players come here to seek financial support to enter major tournaments. And there's the usual hawking of player generated and endorsed stuff.

So, do you think any of this adds up to a hill of beans?

Lou Figueroa
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i say what ever i want to on here. sometimes i get negative reps but i don't really care. i think for the most parts my posts most people think my posts are decent

as far as the guys on az voting anyone into a hall of fame i doubt it
 
If I only get 1 person that thanks me or lays some green on me or appreciates a transaction we did, it's worth it. Even the smallest positive thing can have huge results. Just give with an open heart and let it go from there.:angel2:
 
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The opinions written here matter little to the world at large.

To this individual, it depends on the source of the opinion, some are worth more than othes.
 
I hate to say, or maybe I enjoy saying this, "After hanging around here for several months now and posting what I thought were some very informative posts, I've come to the same conclusion. Very few people, on here, really care."

This place is a typical pool room, only on a lager scale.

You've been in my room Lou. There are people in there running around giving advice to other people, on how to play the game, that, I shutter, when listening, to what they have to say. I believe they just like to hear, "themselves," talk.

Don't take it personal, Lou. I read your stuff.

I like the ,"Soap", reference.
 
For what it's worth, I enjoy reading AZ and the opinions of other people. Every once in a while it can change the way I think about something. I think it's always good to have an open mind, even if it means taking in a little drivel. I only wish I could contribute more! :p
 
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I am relatively certain that most people here reserve their input until they know my opinion on whatever matter is being discussed.:rolleyes:

Individually, there are vary few members here that have an opinion that carries any weight whatsoever but as a whole AZB does have at least a little clout. I am sure that there have been many decisions made in this industry based on what has been discussed here and I think that will continue to be the case.

One thing that AZB is directly responsible for is awarding the Louie Roberts Award every year.
 
carry some weight as a group

Lou,

Pretty obvious that even individual opinions matter to many, even the pro's. Look how many have gotten their panties in a wad and left or the ones that have left and returned over and over. It seems that very few of the pro's don't at least lurk on AZB on occasion, many are daily readers. Many of the pro players and people in the industry don't come on here to avoid the risk of bad PR. That seems to say that opinions matter.

Our opinion as a group clearly matters. The folks running this new event at Galveston made some changes in the way they did business and seem to have made some changes in the event itself based on input from AZB, that is pretty strong. Other people have logged on or forwarded messages to be posted here when forum opinion was running high concerning happenings at their event.

Although the opinions of the members of this forum are pretty easily swayed there is no question that being the single largest billiard sounding board available gives the forum and it's members considerable clout.

It is a totally different question if you ask should our opinions matter. As a tiny subset of all pool players the answer is probably not. However we are the vocal few while the silent majority goes unheard. Few true pool fanatics have time to waste on a computer when they could be wasting it over a pool table. :smile:

Hu


lfigueroa said:
Recently, on "All My Children," a better than average player :-) opined:

"frankly im tired of trying to be the azb darling.
if all 1000 people on here love me it wont change my career,and if all 1000 hate me it wont change it either.
so im done giving a shit ,im done listening too 1000 phantoms behind a computer tell me off.
...im sick of all the know it all,wanna be ,finger pointing,this is what you need to do,i used to be great at pool,pool players are broke,hiding behind keyboards telling people off idiots on here."

Soooo, my question is, in this day of internetness: does what we say and think here -- as fans, students of the game, railbirds, stakehorses, nits, and players ourselves -- matter?

Can what we say and think of a player here, affect their career?

Does opinion, as expressed here, change anything?

I know that over on onepocket.org, the members can vote someone into the Hall of Fame. Now it seems, we can vote someone onto the US Mosconi Cup team. Group will power here seems to be able to magically get people their money, or cue, back from transactions gone bad. We all choose to lend our support (or not) to different events and endeavors. Players come here to seek financial support to enter major tournaments. And there's the usual hawking of player generated and endorsed stuff.

So, do you think any of this adds up to a hill of beans?

Lou Figueroa
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It definitely matters to the pool world and it matters to a lot of people here. In many ways beyond just commerce.

If pool ever gains real traction in the US's real world, this forum will likely have played a huge role in that happening.
 
john schmidt said:
i think what people like you say matters.the people who dont matter in my opinion are the ones who constantly spew crap and are negative constantly.
99 percent on here are great but the 1 percent ,oh my god.
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john i have to disagree. you're a great player and i've gotten to watch you play here in the atlanta area a few times in the last year and you seem like a nice guy. that being said if you seemd like i a bad guy and i couldn't stand you - it wouldn't make a difference if i said here or anywhere else. you'd still have your fans and you'd still play your game. and i think that's always been true. i grew up in the north east and i am a life long yankees fan. there have always been people who have hated the yankees and been vocal about it, even before the internet - they're called red sox fans. but all the *****ing and moaning between the fans of these two teams doesn't change the teams at all. they still roll along being the two powerhouse teams they are. i beleive pool players are the same, despite all the *****ing here on az they are still the players they are.
 
jrt30004 said:
i beleive pool players are the same, despite all the *****ing here on az they are still the players they are.
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But what about the changes tournaments have made based on AZB feedback? Changes that room owners have made? That resellers have made? That cue makers have made? What is said here may not make much of a difference to Earl, but it may very well make a difference to a lot of other people who's business relies on our dollars.

Brian
 
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