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amazing performance

Dennis is generally acknowledged as the best 10 ball player in the Philippines. I was eating supper and when I turned on the match he was down nine zip and looking shell shocked. He actually played pretty well after he got started and the second part of the set starting ten in the hole he actually matched Shane game for game pretty much. I suspect that another set between the two could be the epic battle that was expected or either one could run away with it again. They are both that good.

Hu
 
Yep, I like to see them match up betting their own money winner take all. Longer race for sure like race to 30 or 50. Hopefully they will do it more often not just a one time affair.
 
NOT Accu-stats.... my stats.

Ok, I sat through the whole match, and contrary to early reports that SVB "ran nine racks to start" here's what ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

Rack 1

SVB wins lag, BNR. Position error on the 7, kicked it in to finish the out. 1-0 SVB.

Rack 2

10-ball on the snap. 2-0 SVB.

Rack 3

SVB plays safe on the 5, DO hit the ball, left a shot and SVB ran out. 3-0 SVB.

Rack 4

No shot on the 1. SVB pushes out and ties up two balls. DO passes the shot back. SVB plays a carom, then the 1, then safe on the 2. DO played a bad safe, SVB hangs up the 4 playing what looked like a two way shot. DO jarred the 8, SVB ran out. 4-0 SVB.

Rack 5

SVB Dry break. DO kicks safe. SVB safe. DO safe. SVB carom, SVB safe, DO jump hit, left shot. SVB ran out. 5-0 SVB.

Rack 6

SVB makes the 10-ball on the break. 6-0 SVB.

Rack 7

SVB BNR. 7-0 SVB.

Rack 8

SVB BNR. 8-0 SVB.

Rack 9

SVB scratch on break. DO missed the 5, SVB ran out. 9-0 SVB.

Rack 10

SVB plays safe on the 1, DO hits but leaves shot, SVB ran out. 10-0 SVB.

Rack 11

SVB scratch on break. DO ran out. 10-1 SVB.

Rack 12

DO BNR. (fluked in the 1). 10-2 SVB.

Rack 13

DO Breaks dry. SVB misses 4-10, DO miss 6-10, SVB runs out. 11-2 SVB.

Rack 14

SVB makes a position error and gets hooked on the 2, makes jump hit, leaves shot. DO runs out. 11-3 SVB.

Rack 15

DO scratch on break. SVB shoots 2-10. 12-3 SVB.

Rack 16

SVB dry break. DO hooked on 2, jumps it in. DO makes position error on the 5, misses bank attempt. SVB runs out. 13-3 SVB.

Rack 17

SVB plays safe on the 1. DO kicks in the 1, plays bad safe on 2. SVB plays bad safe on the 3. DO plays bad safe on the 3. SVB plays good safe on 3, but pockets the 7, leaving himself hooked. SVB makes a good hit, leaves it tough. DO starts to run out, and misses with the bridge. SVB runs out. 14-3 SVB.

Rack 18

SVB dry break. DO misses the 4, but gets lucky hook. SVB misses the hit. DO takes BIH and runs out. 14-4 SVB.

Rack 19

DO dry break. SVB is hooked on 1, plays a nice safety. DO scratches on the kick. SVB takes BIH and runs out. FINAL SCORE 15-4 SVB.
 
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thanks for all of that. The actual match played so fast it was easy to miss. I was dealing with kids and such so I couldn't watch the whole things. Shane was up 2-0, I step away, come back and it's 9-0 and I'm shocked but SVB really kept the pressure on Dennis. I'm sure the 10-0 BNR by Dennis was very difficult regardless of the layout. I also agree that the next time they play it could absolutely go the other way.
 
Is dennis the best 10 baller in the phillipines? I like Alcano and busties game better. especially tight pockets. And busties break may be one of the best.
 
I understand the other Filipino players consider him best

abbassi said:
Is dennis the best 10 baller in the phillipines? I like Alcano and busties game better. especially tight pockets. And busties break may be one of the best.
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My understanding is that the other Filipino players consider him the best, at the moment. That isn't to say that there is a huge gap though or that the right table might not change things. That is a tough table they are playing the challenge matches on I believe, four and a quarter inch pockets and hot lights that are speeding up the cloth and making the rails bank a little short apparently.

Hu
 
It helps that SVB has the exact same table in his house! Ask RKC, he installed it. SVB probably felt super comfortable!
 
i dont find the galveston 3d but i want to do a criticism to 10 ball rules on this tournament.
Why the hell they removed the called pocket rule and the golden break works on every pocket? I love 10 ball because the luck involved is really small because the called pocket and the golden break works only on the side pockets. In 10ball usually win the best player. If 2 players are egual in skill on 9 ball wins who get lucky more. Anyone agree with me?
sorry for my english
 
Slh said:
i dont find the galveston 3d but i want to do a criticism to 10 ball rules on this tournament.
Why the hell they removed the called pocket rule and the golden break works on every pocket? I love 10 ball because the luck involved is really small because the called pocket and the golden break works only on the side pockets. In 10ball usually win the best player. If 2 players are egual in skill on 9 ball wins who get lucky more. Anyone agree with me?
sorry for my english
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Your English is good. We understand you just fine. You won't see many players making the ten on the break very often. Shane has an unusually effective break. Probably about as many ten balls will be made on the break as in a 9-Ball tourney.
 
jay helfert said:
Your English is good. We understand you just fine. You won't see many players making the ten on the break very often. Shane has an unusually effective break. Probably about as many ten balls will be made on the break as in a 9-Ball tourney.
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thank you.
Yes,svb has a great break, but the luck involved is bigger with this golden break rule. I like the called pocket rule too.What do you think about it? By the way i like every rule which reduces the luck involved.
 
jay helfert said:
Shane has an unusually effective break.
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I didn't see the match, but where was Shane breaking from?

(can't view the stream from work)
 
instroke2 said:
With the way that Shane breaks... NO One will be able to touch him...
Awesume! Not even anyone from the east... looking forward to the rematch vs Alex if there is one. But my $$$ still is on Shane.
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Yang vs SVB, you will find action =)
 
mnb said:
I didn't see the match, but where was Shane breaking from?

(can't view the stream from work)
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A little past one diamond in from the side. Maybe a diamond and a quarter. Almost like the edge of the box if they were using one.
 
Slh said:
i dont find the galveston 3d but i want to do a criticism to 10 ball rules on this tournament.
Why the hell they removed the called pocket rule and the golden break works on every pocket? I love 10 ball because the luck involved is really small because the called pocket and the golden break works only on the side pockets. In 10ball usually win the best player. If 2 players are egual in skill on 9 ball wins who get lucky more. Anyone agree with me?
sorry for my english
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I agree with you 100%, when I read those 10-ball breaks were counting as wins I lost alot of interest in the match and the result. Lets try to change pool to a game of more skill, would that not be sweet?
 
We found a "game for the pros" (and the purists), 10-ball is definitely the game.

The break is TOUGH, the clusters, patterns, and safeties are TOUGH, the money ball doesn't seem to fly around as much and "rolls" don't decide sets NEARLY as often as in 9-ball.

PLEASE DON'T DUMB IT DOWN FOR THE (non-existent) TV and fans:rolleyes:.


JMHO but:

Rack your own, 1,2,3 on the corners is a fair, "less BS" way to play. It saves the "he slugged me", "he's patterning me", "he's patterning himself" protests.

But there's no way you can play rack your own and let the 10-ball count in the back two pockets, that's just silly. As some have already posted, you lose a lot of credibility as soon as you do that. I am a middle B-player and I can sauce a 9 or 10-ball rack to shoot the money at a low corner about 70% of the time, and not look like I did anything to the rack.


The 10-ball should NEVER count on the break in any pocket. We need to get away from this instant gratification, JACKPOT! mentality like we are league players or the game is tic-tac-to. 10-ball is tough. Stringing a couple racks by breaking and running out is a major feat. Don't cheapen it.

Rotation games have never been played "call shot" especially when there's the "1-foul BIH" rules. Otherwise you get into all kinds of goofy rules about what happens on a kick, for instance.

You want guys to shoot, to not roll out all the time? You have to play "1-foul BIH", call shot will just confuse things and what little TV we get. What do we do if they slop a ball in, spot it? Now the incoming player is hooked from the spot shot. Or the ball spots creating an easy 10-ball combo.

Nope, 10-ball doesn't have NEARLY the spray and pray, luck factor that haunts 9-ball (and LMAO 7-ball). I say let 10-ball roll. Just rack 'em right, and make them run out.
 
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I fully agree dirtypool, but you used too many words LOL...I usually just post this picture:

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dirtypool40 said:
Ok, I sat through the whole match, and contrary to early reports that SVB "ran nine racks to start" here's what ACTUALLY HAPPENED.

Rack 1

SVB wins lag, BNR. Position error on the 7, kicked it in to finish the out. 1-0 SVB.

Rack 2

10-ball on the snap. 2-0 SVB.

Rack 3

SVB plays safe on the 5, DO hit the ball, left a shot and SVB ran out. 3-0 SVB.

Rack 4

No shot on the 1. SVB pushes out and ties up two balls. DO passes the shot back. SVB plays a carom, then the 1, then safe on the 2. DO played a bad safe, SVB hangs up the 4 playing what looked like a two way shot. DO jarred the 8, SVB ran out. 4-0 SVB.

Rack 5

SVB Dry break. DO kicks safe. SVB safe. DO safe. SVB carom, SVB safe, DO jump hit, left shot. SVB ran out. 5-0 SVB.

Rack 6

SVB makes the 10-ball on the break. 6-0 SVB.

Rack 7

SVB BNR. 7-0 SVB.

Rack 8

SVB BNR. 8-0 SVB.

Rack 9

SVB scratch on break. DO missed the 5, SVB ran out. 9-0 SVB.

Rack 10

SVB plays safe on the 1, DO hits but leaves shot, SVB ran out. 10-0 SVB.

Rack 11

SVB scratch on break. DO ran out. 10-1 SVB.

Rack 12

DO BNR. (fluked in the 1). 10-2 SVB.

Rack 13

DO Breaks dry. SVB misses 4-10, DO miss 6-10, SVB runs out. 11-2 SVB.

Rack 14

SVB makes a position error and gets hooked on the 2, makes jump hit, leaves shot. DO runs out. 11-3 SVB.

Rack 15

DO scratch on break. SVB shoots 2-10. 12-3 SVB.

Rack 16

SVB dry break. DO hooked on 2, jumps it in. DO makes position error on the 5, misses bank attempt. SVB runs out. 13-3 SVB.

Rack 17

SVB plays safe on the 1. DO kicks in the 1, plays bad safe on 2. SVB plays bad safe on the 3. DO plays bad safe on the 3. SVB plays good safe on 3, but pockets the 7, leaving himself hooked. SVB makes a good hit, leaves it tough. DO starts to run out, and misses with the bridge. SVB runs out. 14-3 SVB.

Rack 18

SVB dry break. DO misses the 4, but gets lucky hook. SVB misses the hit. DO takes BIH and runs out. 14-4 SVB.

Rack 19

DO dry break. SVB is hooked on 1, plays a nice safety. DO scratches on the kick. SVB takes BIH and runs out. FINAL SCORE 15-4 SVB.
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To continue with "Eric-Stats" in 19 racks played:

DO had 1/4 scratch on the break (.250 to scratch on break), 1/4 dry breaks (.750 to make a ball).

SVB had 2/15 scratch on break (.133 to scratch on break), 3/15 dry breaks (.800 to make a ball). SVB also had the 10-ball go on the snap twice, in the bottom corner pockets.


DO had 1/4 Break and Run outs, he fluked in the first ball of the out. (.250 to BNR)

SVB had 3/15 BNR (.200 to BNR).



DO missed six times in the set, including combo / carom(6-10), a bank shot (straight back cross side), and a miss with the bridge. He also "*SIMONA'd" SVB off a miss.

SVB missed twice in the set; one a two way bank / safety that hung and didn't leave DO hooked, and a 4-10 combo / carom.



DO made at least one position error, rolling through the angle to the bank on the 5 he missed short.

SVB made two position errors, one hooking himself on the 7 in the first BNR, which he soft spun, kicked in to get out, and the other he hooked himself early in the rack and played a safety.



Both played several weaker safties, esp in rack 17, but still didn't leave enough for the incoming player to make the ball. I "charged" SVB with one safety error for that two way bank on the 4 that hung.

Both players had one kicking error, meaning they missed the hit or scratched on the attempt.



****"Simona" is an APA 4 or 5 and our local league and $10 tournament Diva. She is THE single worst sportsman in this town. Rude, *****y, without an ounce of class or etitquette and naturally thinks the pool world revolves around her.

She cusses and fumes through every match and NO ONE has ever "just played better, and deserved to beat her" she ALWAYS gets beaten by luck. This goes so far that when she dogs a ball, AND SHITS YOU SAFE she gestures and fumes worse than Earl about how you're not FROZEN to the back of the ball.

No, DO did not fume after the miss, but to "Simona" someone means you just straight up missed a ball, and shit them safe.
 
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