I'm sure many have tried this. What do you think?
Dave Nelson
Dave Nelson
Perfect Aim
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About 750 posts worth of feedback. Some very hostile, some very supportive.
He makes a lot of good points. If you can find one on the resale buy it. You will be able to recover your cost. He addresses issues that I have not seen by any other.
It will not improve your stroke or play smarter or anything else, but it will help you aim better. That is all the lesson is about.
For anyhing else get Mika's, Little Joe's or Max's DVD's.
It will not improve your stroke or play smarter or anything else, but it will help you aim better. That is all the lesson is about.
For anyhing else get Mika's, Little Joe's or Max's DVD's.
Thanks for asking about Perfect Aim..............
Hi there Dave,
I just wanted to say thanks for the question. I'm back in Wisconsin right now for some badly needed r&r and give some Perfect Aim lessons on the local pool scenes around Wis an Minn.
Hopefully I'll meet you some day.......... Geno............
Hi there Dave,
I just wanted to say thanks for the question. I'm back in Wisconsin right now for some badly needed r&r and give some Perfect Aim lessons on the local pool scenes around Wis an Minn.
Hopefully I'll meet you some day.......... Geno............
IMHO 80.00 BUCKS for a 45minute DVD is about 60.00 BUCKS too much, and the first one were not correct, so if you wanted a correct one it was another 10.00 BUCKS!!!!!
Everyone knows your opinion, if you think its too much dont buy it.
IMHO its hard to judge the true value of something (especially something educational) without actually seeing the information provided.
I think, for a few, the information may not be worth it. But obviously the information is worth it to most that have purchased it or there would be an uprising on the boards about it.
Its pretty simple. One has to decide what improving their game is worth to them, and understand that some investments will pay off more than others. But its the total some of the gained knowledge that makes up ones game. The farther you progress in the game the harder it is to find truly new material. I have read a LOT of books, watched a LOT of videos, and worked with several instructors. Most of the time its with the goal of gaining one piece of knowledge that I didnt have before to help me advance.
Considering some of the instructors I have worked with, and what I have paid to learn from them, to me 80 is not out of line. A lot of other people feel the same way or Gene wouldnt be so busy. If something helps you play better pool (therefore enjoying it more) for the rest of your life, what is it worth?
One of the instructors I worked with recently told me he feels it is some of the strongest information to come around in a long time. And he does not say things like that lightly. Its not my place to bring his name into the mix, but based on what was said I think he will be doing that himself soon enough.
BTW the first ones were "correct" but he wanted to improve on the production as a stand alone DVD, meaning they were initially intended to go along with a lesson. He improved on the DVD, added new material, and asked that people spend 10 bucks to upgrade instead of just releasing a new and improved version and charging full price like most people do. You dont HAVE to get the new dvd to get the meat of the information.
Woody
Thanks for the head up about the first batch of DVD's. There is more to playing Pool well then know how to AIM. :wink:
And no one has ever said there's not. In all of the threads I have read, or people I have talked to about aiming, I cant think of a single one that has said "learn this and you will automatically become a great player. Obviously the game is much deeper than simply aiming.
But there is information out there that can help people pocket balls more consistently. If you watch the largest majority of pool players this is an area that almost everyone could use a little help.
I can also say that you can have all the other pieces of the puzzle (cueball control, patterns, kicking, jumping, solid stroke, good fundamentals, etc) but if you dont have a solid understanding of sighting and aiming, and know which one works best for you, then your game will hit a ceiling that is hard to break through. And you will have higher peaks and lower valleys than those who do it properly.
A few lucky people do it naturally. The rest of us have to learn how to do it, which usually means hitting thousands upon thousands of balls. Aiming is like any other fundamental, you can learn to do it without instruction, it will just take you a lot more table time to get there. And even then it may not take you as far as you could have gotten with some help. :wink:
Perfect Aim thread was moved to wanted or for sale section...
Hi there Woody,
I want to say thanks for your intelligent words of wisdom about Perfect Aim. Your points are well taken by many I'm sure.
The perfect Aim thread has been moved by AZ to the for sale section. So everyone that enjoyed hearing about the Perfect Aim Phenom will have to go there. The sad thing is with the thread in this section it pretty much seems like that will kill the thread.
Sorry but it was not my choice. I will still post when I go to these cities for the lessons so all AZ'ers will know I'm coming so they can take advantage of a personal lesson.
Thanks agai Woody and thanks to everyone that has helped make this thread alot of fun.
Have a great day geno..................
Hi there Woody,
I want to say thanks for your intelligent words of wisdom about Perfect Aim. Your points are well taken by many I'm sure.
The perfect Aim thread has been moved by AZ to the for sale section. So everyone that enjoyed hearing about the Perfect Aim Phenom will have to go there. The sad thing is with the thread in this section it pretty much seems like that will kill the thread.
Sorry but it was not my choice. I will still post when I go to these cities for the lessons so all AZ'ers will know I'm coming so they can take advantage of a personal lesson.
Thanks agai Woody and thanks to everyone that has helped make this thread alot of fun.
Have a great day geno..................
Not to speak for Gene, but I have spoken with Hal in the past and have had a chance to learn some of what Gene is teaching (still havent had a chance to view the entire video though) and Gene's is NOT Hals systems.
I wouldnt really call perfect aim a system so to speak, it is more learning about proper sighting of the shots if I understand it correctly. Its about getting your head and eyes in the correct place to see the shots isnt it Geno?
I wouldnt really call perfect aim a system so to speak, it is more learning about proper sighting of the shots if I understand it correctly. Its about getting your head and eyes in the correct place to see the shots isnt it Geno?
This is the way it is.....................
Hi there,
The other systems or techniques from the way I understand it kind of tricks you into getting the eyes in the right position. With Perfect Aim you can just get there and understand how you did it.
This is why Perfect Aim has been so successful, You not only learn where to have the eyes but what eye does what. Plus you learn how to correct the shot that you continually have trouble with.
Perfect Aim is not something you have to work at for 6 months or so to get great results. It happens almost immediately because just like a rifle, If you line up the sight with the target you will be successful. All Perfect Aim does is show you how to find this natural aim where you see the shot perfect. There is no magical,unexplained movement to get to this aim. Perfect Aim just shows you how to get there very easily.
It is simple also.
The Perfect Aim thread that have been moved to the for sale part of AZ has all the testimonials and arguements about Perfect Aim.
One guy said I'm going to wait until the jury is out on this because if it isn't any good the players on AZ will chew you up and spit you out.
They didn't chew and they didn't spit, in fact most of them that were nay sayers eventually converted to Perfect Aim advocates after they finally purchased the video or got a lesson. It's all there.
Have a great day. Got to go do a lesson. Thanks geno.............
Is this Hal Houle system? Hal dose have a few systems. CTE and P and P and the systems using english to pocket. So do you have something better than Hal and Ronnie V?
Hi there,
The other systems or techniques from the way I understand it kind of tricks you into getting the eyes in the right position. With Perfect Aim you can just get there and understand how you did it.
This is why Perfect Aim has been so successful, You not only learn where to have the eyes but what eye does what. Plus you learn how to correct the shot that you continually have trouble with.
Perfect Aim is not something you have to work at for 6 months or so to get great results. It happens almost immediately because just like a rifle, If you line up the sight with the target you will be successful. All Perfect Aim does is show you how to find this natural aim where you see the shot perfect. There is no magical,unexplained movement to get to this aim. Perfect Aim just shows you how to get there very easily.
It is simple also.
The Perfect Aim thread that have been moved to the for sale part of AZ has all the testimonials and arguements about Perfect Aim.
One guy said I'm going to wait until the jury is out on this because if it isn't any good the players on AZ will chew you up and spit you out.
They didn't chew and they didn't spit, in fact most of them that were nay sayers eventually converted to Perfect Aim advocates after they finally purchased the video or got a lesson. It's all there.
Have a great day. Got to go do a lesson. Thanks geno.............
If genomachino could guarantee me for $80.00 I would be an "A" Player I would buy his system, but there is more to playing Pool than AIMING.
If there was more to pool than aiming, you can prob put on Bucktooth's glasses and you and I would prob play even.
Um, didnt we just discuss that?
What part of "It's not an aiming system" don't you understand?
No instructional DVD claims to make anyone an A player, nor does any instructor I know.
I'd put two prices on buying a product that guaranteed I'd be an A player:
1. $10,000
2. Not if I was paid would I want to be an A player.
It depends on where one is in their pool career, and their phase in life, on which price is appropriate.
Nothing in the middle, and certainly not $80.
By the way, I'd also pay $10,000 if I could take a pill and be guaranteed to look like a model in 6 months time.
That's about as ridiculous as your statement of a guarantee to be an A player.
It's kind of both................
Hi there Woody,
The eyes have to be in the right position no matter what. It doesn't matter what you do to get the eyes there. Just like the spot when you aim a rifle there is only one spot that is Perfect.
I don't know who decides what is sighting and what is aiming and I said this once before that I think they kind of blend together.
I would call Perfect Aim a system because it is totally unique from anything else. It follows a certain unique principle and there are a number of things that go with it to make it easy to see and learn. Perfect Aim has been right in front of everyones face for years but nobody ever figured it out especially how to teach it effectively to everyone. I have and I am and I'm having alot of fun doing it too.
Perfect Aim will stand the test of time as the way our eyes really aim. The way we really see these round balls the best.
If you don't learn it you will get beat by it. I am already seeing that in the tournys I am playing in.
The 16 year old kid that took 2nd place in the 8-ball at Fargo learned perfect Aim. His mother called me on the phone about 4 months ago and wanted to know if I was going to be in Wisconsin. She wanted to bring her son for a lesson. I told her she wanted to get this info to her son as soon as possible so she should just order a video.
I saw this young man at the Galvaston world tourny. He told me he was the one that his mother ordered the video. I told him he had a smart mom and he agreed. I asked him what he thought about Perfect Aim. He said it's great. I asked him about the people on the internet that were doubting Perfect Aim and his reply was something like. If they saw the video they would know better. If they only knew.
When you are deer hunting you don't sight at a deer you aim at a deer. When you say you are going to sight your rifle. You are going to make sure the sights are in the right place.
When you learn Perfect Aim you don't need to learn any other aiming system because if you learn Perfect Aim it kind of just helps you do it all. The only people that say different are players or teachers that havn't seen it and don't quite understand what it's all about. Many of the teachers probably wish they had figured it out. But they shouldn't try to doubt it until they understand it. Players should learn this and teach Perfect Aim to others because it just plain and simple is the way the eyes naturally work. Their games will improve immediately and just get better from there on and that's what we all want. To play better.
Bottom line again is there is only one place to have your eyes if you want to see the shot properly. And when I say that ,it is where you get down and look and it looks like you can see the exact amount of the object ball you want to hit. It almost can look too good. There is only one place to have the eyes. If what you are doing gets you there all the time then your fine. BUT if you get down sometimes and the shot doesn't quite look right you need to know how to correct it. Perfect Aim will get you there. Not only to correct that shot but you will have the ability to correct all your shots.
Thanks again geno.................
Hi there Woody,
The eyes have to be in the right position no matter what. It doesn't matter what you do to get the eyes there. Just like the spot when you aim a rifle there is only one spot that is Perfect.
I don't know who decides what is sighting and what is aiming and I said this once before that I think they kind of blend together.
I would call Perfect Aim a system because it is totally unique from anything else. It follows a certain unique principle and there are a number of things that go with it to make it easy to see and learn. Perfect Aim has been right in front of everyones face for years but nobody ever figured it out especially how to teach it effectively to everyone. I have and I am and I'm having alot of fun doing it too.
Perfect Aim will stand the test of time as the way our eyes really aim. The way we really see these round balls the best.
If you don't learn it you will get beat by it. I am already seeing that in the tournys I am playing in.
The 16 year old kid that took 2nd place in the 8-ball at Fargo learned perfect Aim. His mother called me on the phone about 4 months ago and wanted to know if I was going to be in Wisconsin. She wanted to bring her son for a lesson. I told her she wanted to get this info to her son as soon as possible so she should just order a video.
I saw this young man at the Galvaston world tourny. He told me he was the one that his mother ordered the video. I told him he had a smart mom and he agreed. I asked him what he thought about Perfect Aim. He said it's great. I asked him about the people on the internet that were doubting Perfect Aim and his reply was something like. If they saw the video they would know better. If they only knew.
When you are deer hunting you don't sight at a deer you aim at a deer. When you say you are going to sight your rifle. You are going to make sure the sights are in the right place.
When you learn Perfect Aim you don't need to learn any other aiming system because if you learn Perfect Aim it kind of just helps you do it all. The only people that say different are players or teachers that havn't seen it and don't quite understand what it's all about. Many of the teachers probably wish they had figured it out. But they shouldn't try to doubt it until they understand it. Players should learn this and teach Perfect Aim to others because it just plain and simple is the way the eyes naturally work. Their games will improve immediately and just get better from there on and that's what we all want. To play better.
Bottom line again is there is only one place to have your eyes if you want to see the shot properly. And when I say that ,it is where you get down and look and it looks like you can see the exact amount of the object ball you want to hit. It almost can look too good. There is only one place to have the eyes. If what you are doing gets you there all the time then your fine. BUT if you get down sometimes and the shot doesn't quite look right you need to know how to correct it. Perfect Aim will get you there. Not only to correct that shot but you will have the ability to correct all your shots.
Thanks again geno.................
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