Have you been drugged
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In the old days it was called "slipping someone a Mickey " I got Jarred boxing once....once. lol
An interesting read....
Fatboy's jarring thread:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=129534&highlight=jarred
Fatboy's jarring thread:
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?t=129534&highlight=jarred
I was on the road and staying at Savahnah,Ill.
I was on the road. I ran into a guy named Bob that had a bar there. This was around 1985. Unfortuanately at this time of my life I had just discovered the world of cocaine. So i was doing a little or should I say alot of chemicals already.
86 I went to treatment and figure it out but I almost got killed by someone putting something in my Pepsi.
I went to a bigger city in Iowa about 1 1/2 hours away and was looking for some action. I found a game. I was spotting this guy the 7 ball. It seemed like a pretty good game. I had won a couple of thousand and the guy seemed like he had no chance to win.
I had about 9,000 on me. Now we were going to play some 2,000 dollar sets. I was always careful with my drink. My pepsi was in a paper cup with a plastic cover with a straw. I really kept an eye out for anyone getting near my stuff.
I know now why this guy that seemed like he had no chance kept playing. They had already got to my Pepsi. It had to be the guy at the pool hall that loaded it up. But at first it almost worked to my benefit. I won the first set and I felt a little different but i already had drugs in my system so sometimes I did feel a little more or less strange.
I remember I got another Pepsi because i was real thirsty. I don't even remember what happened after that.
I do remember trying to drive the car back to Savahnah and seeing the bright lights from the cars going by and the horns honking because i don't think I was driving very well. Every once in a while I remember hearing the tire hitting the gravel on the right side of the road.
Somehow I got to Savahnah and there was a hospitol there. I knew I was in trouble but I thought it was from my own self drug use that had caused this. So I almost didn't stop there.
I drove up to the hospitol and then I realised i couldn't seem to even be able to talk. Good thing they knew what to do.
These guys had loaded up my Pepsi with PCP. They gave me a dose in the beginning but I was just seeming to play better. So they gave me another dose. The doctor told me I could have and maybe should have died. I was in the hospitol for 5 days. I was in pretty rough shape. I think they wanted me to stay longer but I just left. It took me about 2 weeks to feel better. That really messed me up.
Who knows. I might still not be right.
I went back to this poolhall and tried to get a game with this guy again. He wanted nothing to do with me. Like he was scared to death.
You see when I got to the hospitol I had no money. They got it all and I don't even remember what happened.
Just happy I was still alive.................:angel2::clapping:.
I was on the road. I ran into a guy named Bob that had a bar there. This was around 1985. Unfortuanately at this time of my life I had just discovered the world of cocaine. So i was doing a little or should I say alot of chemicals already.
86 I went to treatment and figure it out but I almost got killed by someone putting something in my Pepsi.
I went to a bigger city in Iowa about 1 1/2 hours away and was looking for some action. I found a game. I was spotting this guy the 7 ball. It seemed like a pretty good game. I had won a couple of thousand and the guy seemed like he had no chance to win.
I had about 9,000 on me. Now we were going to play some 2,000 dollar sets. I was always careful with my drink. My pepsi was in a paper cup with a plastic cover with a straw. I really kept an eye out for anyone getting near my stuff.
I know now why this guy that seemed like he had no chance kept playing. They had already got to my Pepsi. It had to be the guy at the pool hall that loaded it up. But at first it almost worked to my benefit. I won the first set and I felt a little different but i already had drugs in my system so sometimes I did feel a little more or less strange.
I remember I got another Pepsi because i was real thirsty. I don't even remember what happened after that.
I do remember trying to drive the car back to Savahnah and seeing the bright lights from the cars going by and the horns honking because i don't think I was driving very well. Every once in a while I remember hearing the tire hitting the gravel on the right side of the road.
Somehow I got to Savahnah and there was a hospitol there. I knew I was in trouble but I thought it was from my own self drug use that had caused this. So I almost didn't stop there.
I drove up to the hospitol and then I realised i couldn't seem to even be able to talk. Good thing they knew what to do.
These guys had loaded up my Pepsi with PCP. They gave me a dose in the beginning but I was just seeming to play better. So they gave me another dose. The doctor told me I could have and maybe should have died. I was in the hospitol for 5 days. I was in pretty rough shape. I think they wanted me to stay longer but I just left. It took me about 2 weeks to feel better. That really messed me up.
Who knows. I might still not be right.
I went back to this poolhall and tried to get a game with this guy again. He wanted nothing to do with me. Like he was scared to death.
You see when I got to the hospitol I had no money. They got it all and I don't even remember what happened.
Just happy I was still alive.................:angel2::clapping:.
I don't know about Visine being used. I know they used to carry the "jar" around in a visine container, and squirt it in your drink at an opportune moment. That was one of many different ways to get your drink. Boston Joey told me that a well-known player ( now deceased ) spit the jar into his drink after asking for a sip. I think the most common method was to jar your own drink ( which was identical to your opponents ) and then simply switch drinks...
Shamus O' Tooles ???
learn something new every day. I had always used the term "mickey" for a drugged drink....most everyone I know (new term i guess, as you said) uses the term jarred for being rattled.
Thanks for the info eric, im a coonass and words aint my strong suit lol.
hope your doing well brother.
thanks again,
Grey Ghost
Visine in a drink will make you crap your pants...gives you the runs. Nothing else....have your a*s rattled, literally!
I was drugged more than once playing pool, but it was self induced. :wink:
Puff Puff! Ha Ha
P.S. They used to use horse tranquilizer to jar someone. What was in that I have no idea, but it worked!
Puff Puff! Ha Ha
P.S. They used to use horse tranquilizer to jar someone. What was in that I have no idea, but it worked!
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Man, you guys are creeping me out. I thought this was one of those wholesome, family oriented things we had going on here. I'm not going back into my poolroom until probably tomorrow, now.
gotta stay alert, and not EVER let your guard down...keep those eyes peeled.
its not just pool, look at how chicks get raped with GHB spiked drinks, guys get robbed at parties of their wallets and such the same way.
Its not a pool thing....its shady characters looking for free money from unsuspecting marks situation...happens in all sorts of endeavors.
Happens in fighting, poker, clubs, bars, parties, even at your own house when you invite people over.
Just happens that some of us have particular instances relating to pool.
Thats why you never leave your drink unattended. I actually have a koozie for my beer that has a zipper top...you can zip the lid shut on it....pretty crafty, got it from a buddy offshore. But I still wouldn't go to a new place, and zip it shut leave my drink, go to the bathroom and come back and drink out of it. I'd throw it away and get a new drink.
Hell in the bar, I used to get one beer and then order a softdrink after I was done with it. I'd sneakly fill it with the coke....(some can mistake regular coke in a glass for a mixed drink, but the bubbles from carbonation are a dead give away that its not to some one paying attention) everyone else gets blasted and think your in the same condition.....
my buddy Drew used to tell me i was slicker than a raccoon, an old man they called possum never wanted to dance with the masked bandit after i pulled that move on him. He thought we were going tit for tat with the drinks....blew his mind how i got out from everywhere while "stumbling", bumping in to the table, taking a swig and "beer" dripping off my chin lol.
But hey that's how you do it in the hole in the wall souther bars....gotta drink to play or they aint gonna get in the ring for more than a $5/10 loss.
Sorry for the long side bar, but back to the issue at hand.
DON'T EVER LEAVE YOUR DRINKS UNATTENDED!
Thats like sending your girl to the caribbean all alone to a 5star spot for a week and "betting" that she doesn't get frisky in some jamaican stabbin cabin resort with a wealthy baller or some stud.
Always hedge your bets, always watch your back b/c someone else might be watching it so they can move on you.
be safe out there,
Grey Ghost
its not just pool, look at how chicks get raped with GHB spiked drinks, guys get robbed at parties of their wallets and such the same way.
Its not a pool thing....its shady characters looking for free money from unsuspecting marks situation...happens in all sorts of endeavors.
Happens in fighting, poker, clubs, bars, parties, even at your own house when you invite people over.
Just happens that some of us have particular instances relating to pool.
Thats why you never leave your drink unattended. I actually have a koozie for my beer that has a zipper top...you can zip the lid shut on it....pretty crafty, got it from a buddy offshore. But I still wouldn't go to a new place, and zip it shut leave my drink, go to the bathroom and come back and drink out of it. I'd throw it away and get a new drink.
Hell in the bar, I used to get one beer and then order a softdrink after I was done with it. I'd sneakly fill it with the coke....(some can mistake regular coke in a glass for a mixed drink, but the bubbles from carbonation are a dead give away that its not to some one paying attention) everyone else gets blasted and think your in the same condition.....
my buddy Drew used to tell me i was slicker than a raccoon, an old man they called possum never wanted to dance with the masked bandit after i pulled that move on him. He thought we were going tit for tat with the drinks....blew his mind how i got out from everywhere while "stumbling", bumping in to the table, taking a swig and "beer" dripping off my chin lol.
But hey that's how you do it in the hole in the wall souther bars....gotta drink to play or they aint gonna get in the ring for more than a $5/10 loss.
Sorry for the long side bar, but back to the issue at hand.
DON'T EVER LEAVE YOUR DRINKS UNATTENDED!
Thats like sending your girl to the caribbean all alone to a 5star spot for a week and "betting" that she doesn't get frisky in some jamaican stabbin cabin resort with a wealthy baller or some stud.
Always hedge your bets, always watch your back b/c someone else might be watching it so they can move on you.
be safe out there,
Grey Ghost
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Drugged
To answer the first question, I've never been drugged.
I've been on drugs but actrually paid to do it.
Being "jarred" whatever it is doesn't sound good, and I do know people that swear they were drugged.
I guess it could happen but it seems unlikely and if someone got caught doing it the ramifications would be disastrous...JMO
To answer the first question, I've never been drugged.
I've been on drugs but actrually paid to do it.
Being "jarred" whatever it is doesn't sound good, and I do know people that swear they were drugged.
I guess it could happen but it seems unlikely and if someone got caught doing it the ramifications would be disastrous...JMO
In the story I told earlier that is what the doc called it was elephant tranquilizer. I remembered that now that you said horse tranquilizer. Could PCP be kind of the same thing?
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Shoebat
Your post made me realize that all I knew about PCP was from a high school "dont do drugs" video (1980s), where we watched footage of a man taking on 5 or more cops and having the strength and speed to give them all a run for their money.
Wikipedia on the topic of PCP says:
PCP was first synthesized in 1926, and later tested after World War II as a surgical anesthetic. Because of its adverse side effects, such as hallucinations, mania, delirium, and disorientation, it was shelved until the 1950s. In 1953, it was patented by Parke-Davis and named Sernyl (referring to serenity), but was withdrawn from the market two years later because of side-effects. It was renamed Sernylan in 1967, and marketed as a veterinary anesthetic, but again discontinued. Its side effects and long half-life in the human body made it unsuitable for medical applications.
Looks like they keep trying to find a marketable use for PCP. And whether it was horses or elephants- it was briefly a "veterinary anesthetic."
Check out the link and the heading "Effects" though. (and omg- the heading "Controversy," too)
i didnt know the term "Jarred" was realted to drugs until about a year a go. When "Jarred" meant that a player was weak or rattled. I never knew about the drugs until a year ago +/-.
When I played in pool rooms I saw ton's of coke back in the 80's i was awalys to scared to use it, so I never tried it. I know it would make me play better, but I wont cross that line (oops a pun) in my life.
When I played in pool rooms I saw ton's of coke back in the 80's i was awalys to scared to use it, so I never tried it. I know it would make me play better, but I wont cross that line (oops a pun) in my life.
DAm strike 2 lol.
You know i always heard that and just figured it was true. I've seen eye wash (saline solution) cause the runs but thats not what visene is. I wonder if that urban legend didn't start for the same reason, I'm sure saline was available long b/f visene...maybe people just figured it was the same stuff. Not that a couple of drops can do it much less a tiny bottle full of saline. The bottles offshore are about 20 something oz/, they threw it in a coffee pot.
I was thinking when i wrote that about the eye wash bottles offshore that we use alot out there. Its pure saline solution which is nothing but sterile salt water.
We had a cook offshore that some co-workers put a bottle of the eye wash in his coffee machine....guy would drink pots of coffee every day and he just made it too dam strong crap was like tar, and he was a completely horrible cook.
He made pork ribs that were still bloody as hell, mae a shrimp fetuccini with some quarter size shrimp and somehow did not cook them all the way as they were still slightly raw(shrimp take barely any time at all to cook, very fast))
Was actually getting everyone sick by using the water out the sink (its not potable, its for washing, toilets, showers etc), you use gallons of water to cook with. They couldn't get the guy ran off since he was close to someone high up in the main office for Stone Energy.
Kendall put a whole bottle in Rodgers mourning pot....it wasn't anything that harmed him much, just gave him the water runs and he ended up going home. They had a good cook take over and kept him instead.
It's more like a foul ball than a wiff lol, thanks for the info tho I like knowing little tid bits like that. Like daddy long leg spiders are not poisonous, and watermelon seeds can't grow in your stomach lmao.
You know i always heard that and just figured it was true. I've seen eye wash (saline solution) cause the runs but thats not what visene is. I wonder if that urban legend didn't start for the same reason, I'm sure saline was available long b/f visene...maybe people just figured it was the same stuff. Not that a couple of drops can do it much less a tiny bottle full of saline. The bottles offshore are about 20 something oz/, they threw it in a coffee pot.
I was thinking when i wrote that about the eye wash bottles offshore that we use alot out there. Its pure saline solution which is nothing but sterile salt water.
We had a cook offshore that some co-workers put a bottle of the eye wash in his coffee machine....guy would drink pots of coffee every day and he just made it too dam strong crap was like tar, and he was a completely horrible cook.
He made pork ribs that were still bloody as hell, mae a shrimp fetuccini with some quarter size shrimp and somehow did not cook them all the way as they were still slightly raw(shrimp take barely any time at all to cook, very fast))
Was actually getting everyone sick by using the water out the sink (its not potable, its for washing, toilets, showers etc), you use gallons of water to cook with. They couldn't get the guy ran off since he was close to someone high up in the main office for Stone Energy.
Kendall put a whole bottle in Rodgers mourning pot....it wasn't anything that harmed him much, just gave him the water runs and he ended up going home. They had a good cook take over and kept him instead.
It's more like a foul ball than a wiff lol, thanks for the info tho I like knowing little tid bits like that. Like daddy long leg spiders are not poisonous, and watermelon seeds can't grow in your stomach lmao.
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i had something similar happen here in arizona but the stripper was in my home and she only got 300 or so in my wallet. i woke up 12 hours later with no recollection of what happened the whole night before. f'ing skanks lol
Can't say I ever heard it refered to as being JARRED...but the phrase "slipping a mickey" has been around for awhile. Chloral Hydrate was most often used but I reckon any hypnotic/barbituate would do. I would think all but the most naive amoung us are aware of this ploy being used.
History of term
[edit] The Chicago bartender Michael "Mickey" Finn
The Mickey Finn is most likely named for the manager and bartender of a Chicago establishment, the Lone Star Saloon and Palm Garden Restaurant, which operated from 1896 to 1903 in the city's South Loop neighborhood on South State Street[1][2]. In December 1903, several Chicago newspapers document that a Michael "Mickey" Finn managed the Lone Star Saloon and was accused of using knockout drops to incapacitate and rob some of his customers[3][4][5][6]. Moreover, the first known written example (according to the Oxford English Dictionary) of the use of the term Mickey Finn is in 1915, twelve years after his trial, lending credence to this theory of the origination of the phrase.
The first popular account of Mickey Finn was given by Herbert Asbury in his 1940 book Gem of the Prairie: An Informal History of the Chicago Underworld. His cited sources are Chicago newspapers and the 1903 court testimony of Lone Star prostitute "Gold Tooth" Mary Thornton. Before his days as a saloon proprietor, Mickey Finn was known as a pickpocket and thief who often preyed on drunken bar patrons. The act of serving a Mickey Finn Special was a coordinated robbery orchestrated by Finn. First, Finn or one of his employees, which included "house girls", would slip a drug (chloral hydrate) in the unsuspecting patron's drink. The incapacitated patron would be escorted or carried into a back room by one of Finn's associates who would then rob the victim and dump him in an alley. Upon awaking the next morning in a nearby alley, the victim would remember little or nothing of what had happened. Finn's saloon was ordered closed on December 16, 1903.
In 1918, Mickey Finn was apparently arrested again, this time for running an illegal bar in South Chicago[7].
History of term
[edit] The Chicago bartender Michael "Mickey" Finn
The Mickey Finn is most likely named for the manager and bartender of a Chicago establishment, the Lone Star Saloon and Palm Garden Restaurant, which operated from 1896 to 1903 in the city's South Loop neighborhood on South State Street[1][2]. In December 1903, several Chicago newspapers document that a Michael "Mickey" Finn managed the Lone Star Saloon and was accused of using knockout drops to incapacitate and rob some of his customers[3][4][5][6]. Moreover, the first known written example (according to the Oxford English Dictionary) of the use of the term Mickey Finn is in 1915, twelve years after his trial, lending credence to this theory of the origination of the phrase.
The first popular account of Mickey Finn was given by Herbert Asbury in his 1940 book Gem of the Prairie: An Informal History of the Chicago Underworld. His cited sources are Chicago newspapers and the 1903 court testimony of Lone Star prostitute "Gold Tooth" Mary Thornton. Before his days as a saloon proprietor, Mickey Finn was known as a pickpocket and thief who often preyed on drunken bar patrons. The act of serving a Mickey Finn Special was a coordinated robbery orchestrated by Finn. First, Finn or one of his employees, which included "house girls", would slip a drug (chloral hydrate) in the unsuspecting patron's drink. The incapacitated patron would be escorted or carried into a back room by one of Finn's associates who would then rob the victim and dump him in an alley. Upon awaking the next morning in a nearby alley, the victim would remember little or nothing of what had happened. Finn's saloon was ordered closed on December 16, 1903.
In 1918, Mickey Finn was apparently arrested again, this time for running an illegal bar in South Chicago[7].
WOW! I'm not ever carrying plastic with me again in my quest to help support single working moms!
So...were there any repercussions for their actions?
So...were there any repercussions for their actions?