For all you would-be-flamers!

Glen has figured news ways of doing tables that has and will change many of the old ways of doing things.
The gluing of the cloth on tables that are manufactured for staples, a year ago when I heard of this method....I thought to myself, no way will I ever do something like that on a Brunswick table.

Well, new year, and new method for me....the cloth goes on tighter....less shadows on the pull......the pockets are cleaner.
The french fold he came up with to finish the pockets, is just an awesome look......everyone loves the look on home tables.

Just like the players today are better.....they have more knowledge of the game, and of how a table should play.
Glen has found a way to put cushions on any table....any cushion, and make that cushion play the way it was designed to play.

I'm not going to go into just what he does....with the special tooling he designed for the job, but I have the same tooling,he had me make, and trust me....wow what a job it does on the tables.

Ernesto is a great guy...top mechanic, and friend of mine for years...but somethings are changing, and we need to stay on top of the change.

The glue we use for cushions....for cloth.....for slate....the finished pockets.
Change is good when it's for the better, and all the changes Glen has come up with are for the better.

Tables are going to be changing a lot of things in the future....with help from Glen, myself, and a lot of other mechanics.
Glen tells me everyday he can't do it all by himself, he needs the help of other mechanics.

The cushions are going to play better for everyone on any table....if we can get the change recognized by the manufactures.
As for the older tables...GC 1-2-3...and the old oak diamonds....this new tooling Glen has come up with will put the cushions in the perfect position for the max play of the tables.

Glen is on the right track, and I stand with him on the changes needed to take place.

GLEN IS A GREAT MECHANIC AND LOVES HIS JOB!!!!!!!!

Mark Gregory
 
realkingcobra said:
Jaden, Hu, and the rest of you that think I only beat my own drum, you guys don't really know anything about me or what I'm all about. But maybe these next 4 pictures will give you some insight as to why I'm not worried about being the worlds BEST mechanic, as it seems that's what you guys are hung up on.

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Do any of you know who that is working on the pool table?????????? His name is Clark, and he's the OWNER of Malarkey's Pool & Brew in Tacoma, WA. He asked me if I'd teach him how to work on his own tables so he wouldn't have to hire the mechanics in this area to work on them anymore. Not only am I NOT charging him to learn how to recover his own tables....I'M PAYING HIM $100 A TABLE FOR THE WORK HE'S LEARNING HOW TO DO, ON HIS OWN TABLES!!

Yeah guys, I'm really hung up on myself right, stick that in your pipes and smoke it!

Glen, the "Realkingcobra"
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That's not Clark! That's Todd Brunson the poker player. He went broke playing poker and now has to repair tables to make ends meet. :eek:

JUST KIDDING Clark, aka Clark The Shark!
 
jay helfert said:
That's not Clark! That's Todd Brunson the poker player. He went broke playing poker and now has to repair tables to make ends meet. :eek:

JUST KIDDING Clark, aka Clark The Shark!
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Well, Clark aka the Shark:p got the bed cloth on tight as hell, just like it's suppose to be, and perfect I might add....with a little more practice he'll be doing them on his own soon enough.

BUT, he has to learn which end of the razor knife to stay away from when he's trimming the excess cloth off the rails....so he won't CUT his thumb:D I told him...watch out or you'll cut yourself....his reply was, "to late, I already did"....and off he went looking for something to stop the bleeding:grin-devilish: he didn't lose more than a pint of blood I don't think:sorry:

So, we're back at it again tomorrow.

Glen
 
Glen

What is your standard charge for a 8' drop pocket? Just to cover the bed and recover the rails..although I am thinking about tighting the pockets up..I have a old hausen..it is the remington edition..
 
scratchs said:
Glen

What is your standard charge for a 8' drop pocket? Just to cover the bed and recover the rails..although I am thinking about tighting the pockets up..I have a old hausen..it is the remington edition..
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That depends on where you're at vs where I'm at:D But my normal starting labor is $300 plus materials, but...if it's in the backyard of one of the mechanic's I work with, I may come and watch the work being done, but I'd rather not take work from someone else, hope you understand:)

Glen
 
Glen

I understand..I usually have Jim L of the Cue ball do my work..I have bought from him for years..I was just wondering,I liked the pics of your work..
 
realkingcobra said:
That depends on where you're at vs where I'm at:D But my normal starting labor is $300 plus materials, but...if it's in the backyard of one of the mechanic's I work with, I may come and watch the work being done, but I'd rather not take work from someone else, hope you understand:)

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Jaden said:
Don't talk down about other mechanics.

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I can understand if you were to say something like, I'm working with some of the top mechanics in the industry to try and standardize pool table mechanics practices. But to say, "I'm going to change the industry so we don't have so many incompetent people doing crazy things" Is just self aggrandizing and comes off as petty and ridiculous. You don't have the power to control the industry and I"m not sure many would like it if you did.

...

Jaden
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Here's some pictures of some "crazy things" done by some "incompetent people"

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For those of you that don't know what you're looking at, that is brand new Artemis Intercontinental 66 just installed on a Diamond Professional. The "incompetent person" that did this has actually been in the table business for about 30 years and should be very competent. It looks like he could have chewed the end of the rubber off and left it more flush to the rail than that!

Yeah, Glen comes off as an ass sometimes if you don't know him and know where he's coming from. It's because of working with him though that I have the knowledge and reputation to come in and repair this kind of work. Glen absolutely does raise the bar in this industry, and I believe he honestly does know more than anyone else out there. At least anyone I've ever had the pleasure to work with. He goes WAY out of his way to help improve the knowledge and talent in this industry, and in my opinion is affecting it more than anyone right now.

But hey, what do I know. I'm just part of the "peanut gallery" ;)
 
Yikes!

Every picture tells a story, and a good picture is worth a thousand words. The above pics would be a terrific before and after for Glen. Hey Glen just some food for thought!
Take Care,
Dan
 
It's apparent Glen isn't going to change his attitude, so we can like it or lump it. I can easily accept his perceived arrogance, and if in his presence I'd needle him if and when it came out.

I don't understand why people focus on the smaller picture and can't be more accepting. Doesn't his intent radiate brightly enough? He isn't commiting a crime and he's not asking you to like him.

The man is good for pool and I applaud his continuing contributions.
 
hmm, where to start?

Glen,

In the last few days you have proclaimed yourself to be the greatest table mechanic you have ever seen and to know more than all of the table manufacturers in the industry. I'm more than a little skeptical of both claims since you have proudly put some crappy fixes you did on these forums. You do some things that are quality, some that are crap. The funny thing is that you don't know the difference between the two! That is what makes your arrogance so funny. If Glen did it, it has to be WUNNERFULL!! All bow down and admire his brilliance. Reminds me of a sheet metal man I remember admiring his own work. "Let's see them match that!" He was right, nobody was likely to "match" it, it was crappy work and just flat wrong in concept to begin with.

Most people outgrow your attitude by the time they are in their early twenties but of course you have all the other teenage ideas too, that nothing you do is wrong, everything is somebody else's fault, and when you get in a bind somebody else should bail you out. Oh yeah, and that you are going to turn the world upside down, soon! This all sounds familiar, I raised three teenagers. The difference between them and you is that they all grew up.

Hu
 
I ignore most of his foolishness

KoolKat9Lives said:
It's apparent Glen isn't going to change his attitude, so we can like it or lump it. I can easily accept his perceived arrogance, and if in his presence I'd needle him if and when it came out.

I don't understand why people focus on the smaller picture and can't be more accepting. Doesn't his intent radiate brightly enough? He isn't commiting a crime and he's not asking you to like him.

The man is good for pool and I applaud his continuing contributions.
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I ignore most of his foolishness. He chose to revive this old thread from when he was acting like a huge jackass in many of the posts he made. Do a search of his threads and see when is the last time I posted into one besides this one saying anything at all to him. Had somebody not asked about my old posts here I would have ignored this one too even though I am still subscribed to it and was aware when it was revived.

When I see the things he does right I think that is nice, some of the other things, well, I just shake my head and grin. Even his gluing method that "everyone" seems to love, some folks that see the glue line start showing through the cloth along the rail where the balls run on it all the time aren't that crazy about his gluing method.

Hu
 
ShootingArts said:
I ignore most of his foolishness. He chose to revive this old thread from when he was acting like a huge jackass in many of the posts he made. Do a search of his threads and see when is the last time I posted into one besides this one saying anything at all to him. Had somebody not asked about my old posts here I would have ignored this one too even though I am still subscribed to it and was aware when it was revived.

When I see the things he does right I think that is nice, some of the other things, well, I just shake my head and grin. Even his gluing method that "everyone" seems to love, some folks that see the glue line start showing through the cloth along the rail where the balls run on it all the time aren't that crazy about his gluing method.

Hu
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You've questioned his glue method, his use of roofing nails under the 4 feet, and his use of a wood strip in the french fold.

Anyone else here care to offer a critique on these procedures?

I've no ulterior motive in asking these questions. I'd simply like to know.

Thanks,

Matt
 
ShootingArts said:
I ignore most of his foolishness. He chose to revive this old thread from when he was acting like a huge jackass in many of the posts he made. Do a search of his threads and see when is the last time I posted into one besides this one saying anything at all to him. Had somebody not asked about my old posts here I would have ignored this one too even though I am still subscribed to it and was aware when it was revived.

When I see the things he does right I think that is nice, some of the other things, well, I just shake my head and grin. Even his gluing method that "everyone" seems to love, some folks that see the glue line start showing through the cloth along the rail where the balls run on it all the time aren't that crazy about his gluing method.

Hu
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your confusing Glen's glue method with the spray glue method. With Glen's method the glue is on the side of the slate. Not the top and 3.5" from the playing field.
 
I can't see those pictures while at work...

Club Billiards said:
Here's some pictures of some "crazy things" done by some "incompetent people"

CornerBefore2.jpg


CornerFacing.jpg


Corner-Before1.jpg


CornerRubber2.jpg


For those of you that don't know what you're looking at, that is brand new Artemis Intercontinental 66 just installed on a Diamond Professional. The "incompetent person" that did this has actually been in the table business for about 30 years and should be very competent. It looks like he could have chewed the end of the rubber off and left it more flush to the rail than that!

Yeah, Glen comes off as an ass sometimes if you don't know him and know where he's coming from. It's because of working with him though that I have the knowledge and reputation to come in and repair this kind of work. Glen absolutely does raise the bar in this industry, and I believe he honestly does know more than anyone else out there. At least anyone I've ever had the pleasure to work with. He goes WAY out of his way to help improve the knowledge and talent in this industry, and in my opinion is affecting it more than anyone right now.

But hey, what do I know. I'm just part of the "peanut gallery" ;)
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I can't see those pictures while at work, but I'll take your word on it that they're bad.

Unfortunately, the peanut gallery can't be people who were taught BY glen, that would make you a tad bit biased.

In order to know if other mechanics think Glen is the best, it would have to be those taught by others or self taught, that are considered some of the best in the business in their own right.

I honestly don't think that we could get an unbiased viewpoint from them either, because many of them have been either directly bashed by Glen, or have been inferred by Glen to be "lower quality". So we are unfortunately stucj in a zen riddle or catch 22.

Any of the mechanics out there that DO support Glen and that are or were trained by him can't be unbiased and it seems that Glen has ostricised the majority of the remaining top mechanics with his abrasive manner.

So my illustration of knowing who the best in a given industry is can't really apply here.

Is that to say that Glen isn't a damn good mechanic? No.

I put K66 rails on my custom, but fortunately, it was meant for K66 rails, but what's funny is that I've built tables from scratch and I prefer K66 rails for any table. I don't understand how someone can say that this is the only way to do it, and I want to make it so no one does it any other way.

The arrogance of that statement is just disgusting, it reminds me of liberals who say that the populace doesn't know what's best for them and I do, so we have to do what the populace doesn't want because it's best for them.

Screw what's best for me in glen's eyes. I'll play on what I feel plays best.

Now I am aware that appears to contradict what I said about knowing who the best mechanic is, but not really.

The way a cue plays or a table plays is subjective and different people are going to prefer different things.

I personally don't like the way the rails bounce on most diamonds I have played on, I find it difficult to get transfered spin to work, and they don't bounce how you would expect.

I have also ran into GCs that don't bounce the way I expect. The vast majority of the GCs I;ve played on played better to me than the diamonds, although nothing can beat the way a diamond rolls true, atleast the one piece slate models, although I did once redo a nine foot turn of the century brunswick that had a 1 3/4" one piece slate (took six of us to move the fuecker), that would rival any table, although the sloping legs made shooting from some positions ackward.

I hate using glue, but some mechanics love it. I hated it mostly because of having to clean it off the slates to redo the table. Some tables that we did, we had to use glue because the slates didn't have a wood backing.

we made some tables by hand from scratch and in some ways they were better than the majority of the tables out there, but I would've never stated that we were the best table manufacturer and that I had to change the way other table manufacturers did business. Take that shit to communist china or something, these teeth are meant to cut meat not chop carrots you silly faggot (little bit of humor thrown in). Do a good job in a free market and you'll get rewarded.

The biggest complaints I've heard is on the time it takes to get Glen to come out and following through on what has been done.

Glen, expand and you won't have that problem.

hire five or ten people and spend a couple of months teaching them the right way to do tables according to Glen and put yourself out into the market, instead of focusing on YOUR name and you being the best put it into a company name so that you aren't limited and see what the market will bear. Hell, with the demand you seem to get, I'd be willing to put a corporation together for you and work out the kinks of the logistics.

I'm not against you Glen, I just think that your professionalism could use some adjustment.

Jaden
 
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