All around best american player??

My interpretation of what you wrote was that it was implied that all these great rotation game players could run high numbers in straight pool, but just chose not to for some reason.

This is why I offered money to watch them do it, but I guess they just still don't want to prove how easy it is (yes, I know, you said some players may try in Vegas, but I'm doubting you'll find any takers). There must be more people out there offering money just to watch them "practice"

I don't care if you like the game or not, or think it's boring. I just wanted to challenge your statement that it was "easier" and your implication that any 9-ball player could run high numbers. Regardless of what you think, I know that they most likely can't. And some of the names mentioned will probably never in their life be able to run 400, whether they want to or not. Suppose someone with the bankroll offered them $1,000,000 to do it on command, they would still fail most likely. No offense to any of the players, it's just tremendously difficult to do. And I know that they all know that too, so I'm sure they get my point.

Of course some of the games' greats like SVB and Efren (as you mentioned) could probably run high numbers if they practiced - they are great players with lots of talent... but by your own flawed reasoning, they shouldn't need to practice since it is easier and just a practice exercise anyway. (for the record, I have no idea how - or if - either of them play straight pool, you just brought up the names)

I guess I was just trying to help you see it differently, although I don't really care what you think either way... you are entitled to your own opinion, of course :)
 
You know what I love? I love that my opinion obviously is important to all you 14.1 lovers. If it wasn't, you wouldn't waste your time responding to me or even reading that I have to say. Thanks to everyone for making feel better about myself than I already do. Some of you might be a little dumb at times, but you're all a great group of people. :thumbup:
 
I a question a little off the subject, I was hittin balls the other day and an older man asked me if I wanted to play Larry Nevel, I said sure if the spot was right, he came in the next day and said his diabetes was acting up and he was in or around chicago.

Where is larry now and if he is playing what kind of a spot could I get playing ten ball?
 
suprnva said:
Where did I say that I could but don't want to? Did you read the thread before you posted that? If you're going to throw your opinion out there you should probably know what you're talking about first.
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I have read the thread and you stated the reason your high run(and I am not slurring your high run)is not but 22 and it was because it bored you,I just threw a respectable number out there(like when I said 100),this is nothing more than an opinion like yours and you can believe I am not just trying to take a cheap shot I am just speaking my thoughts just as you are doing except I will remain respectful because I do care what I say and how I say it
 
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jamesroberts said:
I a question a little off the subject, I was hittin balls the other day and an older man asked me if I wanted to play Larry Nevel, I said sure if the spot was right, he came in the next day and said his diabetes was acting up and he was in or around chicago.

Where is larry now and if he is playing what kind of a spot could I get playing ten ball?
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Larry is in Greenville, SC. He does have diabetes, which most people already knew about, but it doesn't bother him too bad. Every now and again it will affect his vision (which is a known symptom) though. I remember one time he played Orcollo on the TV table at, I believe, the US Open. I talked to him afterwards and he said he had no clue how he won because his eyes were bothering him so much that he could only see blurrs of color and not the edge of the balls. lol.

As for playing him, what kinda weight do you want? Make an offer and we can go from there. If you want to talk in private, shoot me a PM. You're going to be in Vegas, right? I thought I saw your name on the list for the US Open 10-ball but I can't remember and I'm too lazy to go check. lol.
 
peteypooldude said:
I have read the thread and you stated the reason your high run(and I am not slurring your high run)is not but 22 is because it bored you,I just threw a respectable number out there,this is nothing more than an opinion like yours and you can believe I am not just trying to take a cheap shot just speaking my thoughts just as you are doing except I will remain respectful because I do care what I say and how I say it
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I'm not gonna lie, and I'm not trying to be a dick, but that post confused me. I have no clue if that was all one sentence or what.

Anyways, it is 22 because I've never cared to try and beat that. I ran 22 4 years ago and I don't think I've played 14.1 since. If I did, I might have been drunk because I don't remember it. 14.1 is by far the most boring thing you can do on a pool table, in my opinion, and if I never play it again it won't bother me one bit.
 
suprnva said:
you know what i love? I love that my opinion obviously is important to all you 14.1 lovers. If it wasn't, you wouldn't waste your time responding to me or even reading that i have to say. Thanks to everyone for making feel better about myself than i already do. Some of you might be a little dumb at times, but you're all a great group of people. :thumbup:
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no comment:-)
 
peteypooldude said:
modern day, my list would look something like this...Archer,Svb,Strickland
Hall and Varner are by no means second string and this is a very short list
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I beg to differ with your picks. Archer,VB,and Strickland only excell at 9 and 10 ball. I think SVB would be a monster 1-pckt player if he ever took the game up. Archer is a pretty good straght pool player but has never played 1-pkt at all. Schimdt is the best candidate among todays players.
 
blackeee said:
I beg to differ with your picks. Archer,VB,and Strickland only excell at 9 and 10 ball. I think SVB would be a monster 1-pckt player if he ever took the game up. Archer is a pretty good straght pool player but has never played 1-pkt at all. Schimdt is the best candidate among todays players.
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When I made this response I glanced at the question at hand and responded with who I thought were the best players not most versatile ,but as far as the best players you would run into in a 9 or 10 ball tourny the ones I mentioned would b my pick as for 3 disciplines go I would go with Shannon Daulton for the cash.1 hole,banks and rotation
 
blackeee said:
I beg to differ with your picks. Archer,VB,and Strickland only excell at 9 and 10 ball. I think SVB would be a monster 1-pckt player if he ever took the game up. Archer is a pretty good straght pool player but has never played 1-pkt at all. Schimdt is the best candidate among todays players.
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I think Strickland's high run in straight pool is over four hundred.
 
suprnva said:
I'm not gonna lie, and I'm not trying to be a dick, but that post confused me. I have no clue if that was all one sentence or what.

Anyways, it is 22 because I've never cared to try and beat that. I ran 22 4 years ago and I don't think I've played 14.1 since. If I did, I might have been drunk because I don't remember it. 14.1 is by far the most boring thing you can do on a pool table, in my opinion, and if I never play it again it won't bother me one bit.
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haha, yeah, I was wondering what this meant too... :) its like one long sentence, but it's not confusing you because your high run is 22 and I can't beat that either probably but I like the game, and sometimes I just post things because I've had one too many drinks, but then I write really long sentences about the post and I just want to be heard and I definitely mean no offense by this, especially because my aunt does this on facebook all the time and I'm starting to wonder if she drinks a a lot :)
 
jay helfert said:
I would say Tony is kind of out of the loop right now. :rolleyes:
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yes jay for now he is
but when he is playing he is the best or top 2 or 3.
the games that i count for an all around are
one pocket banks and 10 ball.
name a few that are fav over him in those 3 sets.
 
allen_jr said:
Of course some of the games' greats like SVB and Efren (as you mentioned) could probably run high numbers if they practiced - they are great players with lots of talent... but by your own flawed reasoning, they shouldn't need to practice since it is easier and just a practice exercise anyway. (for the record, I have no idea how - or if - either of them play straight pool, you just brought up the names)
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Here's Shane playing Stevie Moore in straight pool from last year.

http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/1939504

---DASH---
 
real bartram said:
yes jay for now he is
but when he is playing he is the best or top 2 or 3.
the games that i count for an all around are
one pocket banks and 10 ball.
name a few that are fav over him in those 3 sets.
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It's close between him and Shannon, if Shannon is playing. Too bad about Tony, because his game was on the rise.
 
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