This is for the old guys....

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When I say old, I mean those of us that have realized that we can start drawing social security in less than 10 years. As you move into the late fall early winter of your life, what happens to you when you play the game you love? How to you approach the game? Do you still feel "it" when you play? Do you enjoy and even cherish beating a young guy? How is your game now compared with, say, 20 years ago? (I'm almost 60. When I was 40 I felt I was playing my best) Why does someones game deteriorate as they age? Is it mental? Physical? Eyesight? Or just life? When did you start playing? How much do you play now as opposed to in the past? And anything else that you think would be helpful.

I am working on a new book, and would very much appreciate your insight.

thanks
Bob Campbell
 
This should be an intresting thread. I have plenty to say by someone that's been playing for over 55 years but I'm just now leaving for Vegas to play in the three man Masters. I will return next week and to put my words in if I have anything new to add at that time to what will already be said.
 
This should be an intresting thread. I have plenty to say by someone that's been playing for over 55 years but I'm just now leaving for Vegas to play in the three man Masters. I will return next week and to put my words in if I have anything new to add at that time to what will already be said.

Actually, your insight after the tournament would be very helpful. You will have some of the specific insight I am looking for.

Good luck and I hope you follow up when you get back. Shoot well!

Bob
 
When I say old, I mean those of us that have realized that we can start drawing social security in less than 10 years. As you move into the late fall early winter of your life, what happens to you when you play the game you love? How to you approach the game? Do you still feel "it" when you play? Do you enjoy and even cherish beating a young guy? How is your game now compared with, say, 20 years ago? (I'm almost 60. When I was 40 I felt I was playing my best) Why does someones game deteriorate as they age? Is it mental? Physical? Eyesight? Or just life? When did you start playing? How much do you play now as opposed to in the past? And anything else that you think would be helpful.

I am working on a new book, and would very much appreciate your insight.

thanks
Bob Campbell

Maybe the biggest reason your game deteriorates is lack of motivation. We begin to lose interest and the desire to play as much. If you remain physically healthy, there is no reason you can't still play well. That is, if you are willing to put in the necessary time, and most older guys are not.

With a little practice I can still play okay, and I have a better demeanor at the table then when I was younger. I don't allow myself to get upset. I'm sure my emotions cost me more than once when I was younger, even though I shot straighter then. With laser surgery, your eyesight can be just as good as before, so that is no problem.

I believe you can play pool well later in life if you are so motivated. I constantly try to find things to motivate me to play, and I'm not always successful. I need to have a reason to practice, like an upcoming match or maybe a visit to the Philippines. :smile:
 
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This should be an intresting thread. I have plenty to say by someone that's been playing for over 55 years but I'm just now leaving for Vegas to play in the three man Masters. I will return next week and to put my words in if I have anything new to add at that time to what will already be said.
Playing for 55 years.:eek: Damn Frank, the way you look, your sense of humor and your playing ability, I had you pegged at close to sixty.:) What ever your doing, don't stop. :thumbup:
 
When I say old, I mean those of us that have realized that we can start drawing social security in less than 10 years. As you move into the late fall early winter of your life, what happens to you when you play the game you love? How to you approach the game? Do you still feel "it" when you play? Do you enjoy and even cherish beating a young guy? How is your game now compared with, say, 20 years ago? (I'm almost 60. When I was 40 I felt I was playing my best) Why does someones game deteriorate as they age? Is it mental? Physical? Eyesight? Or just life? When did you start playing? How much do you play now as opposed to in the past? And anything else that you think would be helpful.

I am working on a new book, and would very much appreciate your insight.

thanks
Bob Campbell


Pretty complicated question and so are the answeres. What happens to you when you play?--I get an adrenaline rush; lose all sense of time and seem to feel "at home" My approach to the game is not much different than in the past. I may not have the total focus that I used to but I believe that comes from lack of action. I'm 64, have some health problems and can only play about 4 or 5 hours ata a time. There are a couple of guys in town who could beat me, but we don't gamble together.

I played my best 9-ball between the ages of 40 to about 47. I play my best one-pocket now.

Do I like beating younger guys? Well certainly. I like beating anyone. But there ain't no older guys around here to bear. LOL.

I don't necessarily think all guys game falls off as they age. Look at Danny D.,Grady,Billy etc. They all play pretty good even now. But age does take it's toll on most of us. Particularly family men and working folks. With most older people I think they just lose a little desire and don't put as much importance on the game as the did when they were younger. Since I own a room I get to play or practice every day and I am still learning and eager to learn.

Aging takes it's toll on skill levels in several different ways. Hand eye co-ordinatin isn't as good, eyesight isn't as good, general health may be a nagging problem{as it is with me} and contribute to loss of focus.
I went through a period of about a year trying different things with my stroke and it screwed my game up for quite a while. Forget "fundamentals" and just do what you did when you played better." It aint how, it's how many." Take a look at all the pros. they all have a different style but one thing they have in common is that they get the ball in the hole, which is the object of the game is it not?

I've played the game since I was 18 or 19 and love it now more than ever;knowing I don't have much more time to play at a decent level. I dread the day I'll ever have to quit. I'd rather die than have to quit playing.

I'll add one last thought. I have a lot of respect for all the champions of long ago and the champions of the game. Those of us who play the game with the respect it deserves know it is the hardest game of all. you not only have to master the game to play at a high level, you have to master yourself.
 
I'm 57. I have played pool since I was 14. My problems are these: Until about 5 years ago, I was just an occasional player, stopping in a poolhall or shooting in a bar maybe six or seven times a year (many years even less than that). More of a "banger", shooting okay but not really knowing how to position the cue ball for the next shot. At age 52, I joined a pool league for fun and socializing. I saw how the better league players played the game and since I was recently retired, took an active interest in bettering my game. I watched telecasts/video, read books/magazines, asked lots of questions to the better players, took a lesson from RandyG, and bought a home table to PRACTICE, PRACTICE, PRACTICE on. Then I started playing leagues three nights a week and played occasionally in local tournaments. I've improved slowly but steadily in the five years I've taken it seriously from being a "banger" to where I can most of the time get out in 8 or 9-ball in 2 innings or less with the occasional break-and-run.

Now for the aforementioned problems: I have chronic lower back tightness, both shoulders have limited mobility from surgeries, my neck has limited mobility from degenerative discs, and my eyesight requires me to wear glasses while playing. Couple those things with the fact that I got a very late start on taking the game seriously. I feel like I have done okay, considering the fact that I have several other hobbies that I keep an active interest in. I think if I had gotten started younger, I'd probably be a pretty sporty player today. Things (sports, games, etc.) always came easy for me when I was a young man.

Maniac
 
I'm 56 and started playing when I was around 11. From the age of 11 to 21 I played almost every day. I played my best around the age of 20. My parents bought me a table at the age of 12 and I played/practice every day.
I got married, quit the game for 25 years, got divorced, and started playing again at a much lower level than when I quit.:frown:
There seem to be two things that most affects my game. The first is eye sight. I have to wear glasses and sometimes they can be a real pain. I was thinking about the laser surgery, but it is still expensive. Still thinking about it, but haven't even seen if I'm a viable candidate yet.
The second thing I notice most is lack of stamina. When I was younger, I could play all day and half the night. Now I start losing momentum after about 4 or 5 hours. I have chronic back problems, so I think this has something to do with the stamina issue as well.
I am motivated to elevate my game, but I work a rotating shift so I can only play when I'm not working (shifts are 12 hours starting and ending at 6:30). When I work the day shift, I'm too tired to play, and when I work night...well there are no pool rooms open at 7 AM in my area. If I am covering someone else's shift, I may not see a pool table for 2-3 weeks, which really sucks. I try my best to play at least 2-3 times per week if work allows.
I am looking forward to reading what other older guys have to say.I absolutely love this game. It is a challenge of both mental and physical abilities. There is nothing like it when you are "in the zone".
 
When I say old, I mean those of us that have realized that we can start drawing social security in less than 10 years. As you move into the late fall early winter of your life, what happens to you when you play the game you love? How to you approach the game? Do you still feel "it" when you play? Do you enjoy and even cherish beating a young guy? How is your game now compared with, say, 20 years ago? (I'm almost 60. When I was 40 I felt I was playing my best) Why does someones game deteriorate as they age? Is it mental? Physical? Eyesight? Or just life? When did you start playing? How much do you play now as opposed to in the past? And anything else that you think would be helpful.

I am working on a new book, and would very much appreciate your insight.

thanks
Bob Campbell

even though i'm getting older i still feel like i'm getting better
 
this is for old guys

I startrd playing in 1943 and have been playing regularly since then except for about 10 years in the seventies. Ran my first 100 in 1968. I play 3 to 4 hours almost every day. I loved the game when I firsr started playing and I love it even more now. I'll be 79 shortly and like 14.1 and one pocket now much more than 9 ball. Although I can still hit a pretty decent gear now and then at that game. This game can keep you young if you let it.
 
I startrd playing in 1943 and have been playing regularly since then except for about 10 years in the seventies. Ran my first 100 in 1968. I play 3 to 4 hours almost every day. I loved the game when I firsr started playing and I love it even more now. I'll be 79 shortly and like 14.1 and one pocket now much more than 9 ball. Although I can still hit a pretty decent gear now and then at that game. This game can keep you young if you let it.


I started playing in 1962 and I've never run 100 balls. My best run was six racks of Eight Ball on a bar table for 20 a game. I forgot to stall. :smile:
 
I shared this with Jay but didn't want to post it for fear it would seem like just another brag - but maybe it will fit here.

I used to play very decently and had quit for about 15 years due to health issues (nerves, colon cancer and more). I only just started playing again last October and have only played the bar tables since. Bar tables seem to be about all there is nowadays.

A couple of Saturdays ago, I was playing in a nine ball tournament in Springfield, MO at a spot called Dennis' Place. It's a weekly tournament but generally draws the best players in the area. Andy Craig (the current Missouri state 9 ball champ) and Danny Harriman, along with several other extremely good players are frequent contestants.

Andy Craig is from England and showed a great deal of promise at the game of snooker over there. He went through the training and enjoyed some success before leaving for the US and college. He played many of the top names you would now see ranked very high among the top British players. He is also a fine gentleman.

Andy was sitting at the next table and surprised me with what I consider to be one helluva compliment to give a 60 year old man. He said, "Rich, you are the best shot maker I have ever seen in my life." And he was absolutely serious.

I was floored by that remark. I doubt his assessment is accurate but certainly appreciated the compliment. Made an old man feel pretty good about his game. I did win that tournament, another last weekend, and another tonight.

If only I had my vision back. I've tried several sets of lenses in some Decot HyWyd frames that came highly recommended but nothing seems to work correctly for me. Laser surgery is not an option for me according to my optometrist. Developing cataracts in both eyes will surely end my game again (at least for a time) in the not too distant future... but I'll keep playing until that or something else puts a stop to it.
 
Bob,
It is not the same for all people. As we age, some of us are afflicted by different things at different times and at different quantities.

My passion for playing pool has never diminished. I've had my ups and downs like most players. Drive, passion, call it what you will; if you don't have it, you don't have it. If you've got it, it's all you need.

But I have hit three score and while I have a few aches and pains, I play with the young guys and give them a run for their money. At my age, I have more than they do so I can afford to play, just for the love of the game. I enjoy teaching the newer players who have a genuine passion for the game and spend a good deal of my practice time with them. This teaching helps me with my own game and it is stronger than ever.

Just yesterday, I beat a small field of locals giving up weight in a handicapped one pocket tournament. It was difficult but I've always relished a challenge and live for the next tournament.

The top players often feel a compassion for me and teach me some of their "secrets" and I respect them for what they are willing to share with me. I continue to learn, practice and play, maybe more now, than ever.
 
The wife and I stopped in at the Mezz/Blaze? tourney last weekend here in PA, and Mike Sigel, and Andy Toth (my mentor) who are both about 60 were playing well and into the 5th round when I left. Granted they are both in good health, and Mikes "mouth" has not lost a step! :) That guy is fun to watch when he is working the tourney room.......many people don't get it and don't like him, but the guy is a living legend. Anyway, when I asked them both how they felt, they both said early nerves, then they settled in and ran racks like back in the day.

Nice to know some things never change huh?!

Me? I have been playing since I could reach the table in our basement.....I"m now 44 and playing the best pool of my life. We have a plumbing biz, so I couldn't always play as much as I like, but now.....I have a GC4 down stairs waiting for me :grin:

I look forward to playing the rest of my life.

G.
 
Great input so far guys. I appreciate the honesty. I am starting to see a common thread that runs through your posts. Certainly would like to hear from more of you. Wondering- have you gone from "have to be the best" (when I was younger I think I thought the world would stop spinning if I lost a $10 set) to "I'm happy I can still play" (I even find I can laugh at something during a set...when I'm losing).

Keep 'em coming guys! And thanks!

Bob
 
I started playing in my forties and played leagues for about ten years. Lost interest in my 50s when my first wife died and I started something new. I built a house from scratch with my second wife and we built a pool / bar / library. As and APA 6 I guess I was just a little better than a banger, not much but enough to win here and there.

It seems to me that when you hit your late 50s life takes a turn and many of the things that were important like climbing the success ladder, money, women and similar accomplishments no longer have the appeal they once did because you have what you have done and see little challenge in what is left of your life.

I “retired” at age 60 to have the rest of my life for myself. Now at age 66 a topic has to be inherently interesting or I lose interest and walk away. As an individual I have a life long interest in learning (got me a PhD and several scientific publications) and a preference for individual sports that demand a great deal (I was a three meter board diver as a kid).

Where I am now in life playing pool is one of the only true challenges left. I have all the rest and have no need to go after anything else. There is so much to learn playing pool and so much self discipline that it is a rewarding journey.

Surely my stamina is not what it was but the very lack of stamina contributes to why I play pool. I practice for about one hour a day and often play in “old man” daily tournaments with 12 – 16 guys like myself. Some of the men are in their 70s and we have at least two who are about 90 years old. Perhaps half of the men who play in our retirement community’s daily tournaments are passing time and enjoy the friendly level of competition with averages kept and reviewed every month by the players. The other half of the men are trying to get better with out any real pressure. We play in a gentleman’s atmosphere and there is no smoking, cussing or music.

A few weeks ago I found one of the local Friday night handicapped tournaments ($10.00 get in and it pays first about $100 - $150.00). The local talent is generally C players with a few B players and one fellow who is close to an A player. I have come in the money each night but seem to tire by about 1:00 Am when I lose in some stupid way. The kids (20 to 40 years old) who play in these tournaments are typical pool hall players, too loud, filthy mouthed and many have one to many tattoos for my liking. By and large they are fun to be around though they tend to get too emotional when they lose. And of course they don’t often listen to rock-n-roll but some new stuff that is mostly noise and obnoxious noise at that.

I like the competition and the handicapped approach as it keeps the tension higher. In general, the younger people are fun to be around and they do make me play better as it requires real concentration to win some of the matches. In fact the weekly tournaments are rekindling my interest. The shorter race to four (for even handicaps) is nice for an older guy like me as I get to rest a little (unless you hit the losers bracket).

For me (and many other people I know) we now really play for the fun of it and the challenge. With much of the excess baggage out of the way it is a great life style with no real demands. I suspect I am one of those guys who will play well into his 90s if the physical holds up like it has so far.

Most of all, and glad to say, I keep learning news things. Playing pool keeps me in physical shape (I swim every day) and my mind has to be focused to win. What more could an old guy want :eek:

In answer to your last post. I have always been the kind of guy who only ever plays against himself. I don't compare myself to others, never have. But I do try to beat my last accomplishment. Perhaps that is part of the secret to a good life and mine has been real good so far. Life is not a race against the other guy. There will always be greater and lesser people than yourself (too quote and old poem), so enjoy your accomplishments whatever they are, they are a real fortune in life.
 
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I'm 76 and think I'm playing my best game now. I live in an over 55 community and we have two 9 foot Gandy's in our community center. I can usually play only about 30 to 45 minutes/day because of a bad back. I concentrate on improving my positional play. I've always enjoyed playing pool since my teens. It's a great game and a good way to meet people and stay young.
 
age is just a number

i played my first game at age 6 and fell in love, i'm now 66, 60 years of playing pool and i dont ever think i will quit.
i woke a bit earlier than usual this morning, so before going off to the jewelry store i got in about an hour of practice, yes even at 66 i'm still learning and still have the desire to get better.
but now that i am building cues, that takes away from my practice time, and makes it much harder to stay sharp.
a few days back a teammate came over and we played 7 sets race to 5, 8 ball. my room has a carpet over concrete slab, at the end of the session i was tired, at this point a 3 - 4 hr session is all i need.
i am at work now and i know when i get home today, i will spend a bit of time in the shop working on my next masterpiece, but before lay down to take a rest tonight, its a few more racks on the old brunswick.
put me down for a copy of the book.


chuck
 
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