Mika Best I've every saw in 60 years.

Now that Sigel and Earl are out I have to pull for Mika to take 3 in a row. That would be an amazing accomplishment for him.

On another note I would like to see it stay rack your own, but with the 9 on the spot next year.
 
Sixty years is about right.

Lassiter's run of dominance as a road player was from 1942-1948, a period in which he is reported to have won $300,000. By modern standards, that is easily on a par with winning over $1,000,000 every year for this period playing pool.

I've chatted with numerous old timers about it, and they all agree that, relative to his peers, nobody played better nine ball than Lassiter. Some of them still feel that Lassiter was the best nine ball player of all time.

Mika Immonen's recent dominance in nine ball is, perhaps, comparable to the incredible feats of Sigel, Strickland, Archer, Hall and a few others, but probably not comparable to the run Lassiter had in the 1940's, over sixty years ago.
 
... Lassiter's run of dominance as a road player was from 1942-1948, a period in which he is reported to have won $300,000. By modern standards, that is easily on a par with winning over $1,000,000 every year for this period playing pool....

Stu, how did you calculate that? I checked the CPI's -- 18.1 for July, 1945 and 218.0 for July, 2010, or about 1:12. So $300,000 then was about $3,600,000 now. Spread that over seven years and it's "only" about $514,000 per year.

Perhaps the answer is that you are accounting for taxes somehow, too.

Did Lassiter handle his money wisely?
 
If Mika wins his third consecutive US Open, is there anything comparable in tournament wins in the whole pool history?
 
Lassiter's run of dominance as a road player was from 1942-1948, a period in which he is reported to have won $300,000. By modern standards, that is easily on a par with winning over $1,000,000 every year for this period playing pool.

I've chatted with numerous old timers about it, and they all agree that, relative to his peers, nobody played better nine ball than Lassiter. Some of them still feel that Lassiter was the best nine ball player of all time.

Mika Immonen's recent dominance in nine ball is, perhaps, comparable to the incredible feats of Sigel, Strickland, Archer, Hall and a few others, but probably not comparable to the run Lassiter had in the 1940's, over sixty years ago.

I think a lot of old timers' stories get more fantastical with each telling... Wimpy was the best, no doubt about it, but he never had or made that much money. He was an awesome person who would give you the shirt off his back but he was poor as a church mouse when he died.


Sixty years is about right.

Let's not forget about Efren... he's the best player that has ever lived.

A younger Efren against Mika head to head wouldn't even be close.
 
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If Mika wins his third consecutive US Open, is there anything comparable in tournament wins in the whole pool history?

I don't think so... especially with the quantity of quality players these days.

Seems like no one misses anymore...
 
If Mika wins his third consecutive US Open, is there anything comparable in tournament wins in the whole pool history?

Mosconi's 16 year reigin as world champion, losing the title only one year during that time.

Mizerak's 5 consecutive U.S open 14.1 titles.

Reyes' one pocket dominance.

Mike Sigel's whole career. He's still the best all-around player I've ever seen.
 
Stu, how did you calculate that? I checked the CPI's -- 18.1 for July, 1945 and 218.0 for July, 2010, or about 1:12. So $300,000 then was about $3,600,000 now. Spread that over seven years and it's "only" about $514,000 per year.

Perhaps the answer is that you are accounting for taxes somehow, too.

Did Lassiter handle his money wisely?

HA! CPIs??

What did a suburban house cost in 1945? $3000 TOPS! A brand new car? Probably $1500. Prices on most things have increased AT LEAST 20X since the 40's.

Gold? In 1945 the price of gold was $34.71 Today it closed at $1327.70

1327.70 / 34.71 = 38.25, which makes $300K = $11,475,367
 
Looks like even the ProShot Glove has added some help to this already great player. More and more people are starting to play with the glove. Mika is going to continue to get better and better.

Dude, please. Spamming threads with your sales pitch is not the way to win friends and influence people around here. Just a word to the wise. Keep the pitches in your own threads in the For Sale Forum.

Welcome to the board. :smile:
 
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I think a lot of old timers' stories get more fantastical with each telling... Wimpy was the best, no doubt about it, but he never had or made that much money. He was an awesome person who would give you the shirt off his back but he was poor as a church mouse when he died.




Let's not forget about Efren... he's the best player that has ever lived.

A younger Efren against Mika head to head wouldn't even be close.

Lets not forget about Worst......Efren in his prime would have been in the WORST nightmare of his life......

I'd agree with what Mikas doing is like Archer, Earl, Seigal and such but he's no Lassiter

Lassiter was broke, he used to give a childhood friend money when he won from pool back when he was a kid.....that kid grew up to become a millionaire and repayed the favor giving Luther a place to live and a monthly stipend.

-Grey Ghost-
 
Lets not forget about Worst......Efren in his prime would have been in the WORST nightmare of his life......

I'd agree with what Mikas doing is like Archer, Earl, Seigal and such but he's no Lassiter

Lassiter was broke, he used to give a childhood friend money when he won from pool back when he was a kid.....that kid grew up to become a millionaire and repayed the favor giving Luther a place to live and a monthly stipend.

-Grey Ghost-

I am a bit curious regarding the level of the great players from the past, since I have never seen them play. You mention Harold Worst, and sjm in an earlier post mentions Lassiter as possibly the best ever.

I believe most people agree that when Efren came to US, he introduced a new level of play with his kick shots and kick safeties. From that I conclude that american players (and the rest of the world) had not seen such high level rail first play before, and eventually learned to change their game from "hit and hope" to something more sophisticated in the kicking area.

That has to mean that Lassiter and Worst did not have that weapon in their arsenal? Or else I suppose other players would have picked it up long before Efren came along?

And if they didnt have that knowledge, there is no way they could have beaten the Mikas and the Efrens of today.
 
I agree. But I think it was moderately flawed in one way. In all 15 games, the breaker broke from the same spot (maybe 10" - 11" to the right of the head spot), played a cut break shot, and made the right-side wing ball in the right-side corner pocket behind the rack 13 out of the 15 breaks.

Sure, it's "fair" because both players can attempt the same thing every time. But is that really the way we'd like to see 9-ball played?

I think that's skill being displayed.
 
Dude, please. Spamming threads with your sales pitch is not the way to win friends and influence people around here. Just a word to the wise. Keep the pitches in your own threads in the For Sale Forum.

Welcome to the board. :smile:

You got a big AMEN! from me there. That spamming is in very poor taste. Hope he is learning as he is living. :groucho:
 
Dude, please. Spamming threads with your sales pitch is not the way to win friends and influence people around here. Just a word to the wise. Keep the pitches in your own threads in the For Sale Forum.

Welcome to the board. :smile:

You got a big AMEN! from me there. That spamming is in very poor taste. Hope he is learning as he is living on azb forums. :groucho:
 
I don't want to rain on your parade, but it does look a little tacky to say that Mika is the best you've seen in 60 years after the beating he took last week. Mika is an extrodinary player, but it does look a bit out of place to make the remark you made in the title after he just lost 10 grand + what ever he had on the side last week. Now if the SVB match was last year, then I wouldn't bat an eye to your comment. But we are talking last week.

Comparing 9 ball to 10 ball is like comparing apples to oranges.
 
I am a bit curious regarding the level of the great players from the past, since I have never seen them play. You mention Harold Worst, and sjm in an earlier post mentions Lassiter as possibly the best ever.

I believe most people agree that when Efren came to US, he introduced a new level of play with his kick shots and kick safeties. From that I conclude that american players (and the rest of the world) had not seen such high level rail first play before, and eventually learned to change their game from "hit and hope" to something more sophisticated in the kicking area.

That has to mean that Lassiter and Worst did not have that weapon in their arsenal? Or else I suppose other players would have picked it up long before Efren came along?

And if they didnt have that knowledge, there is no way they could have beaten the Mikas and the Efrens of today.

wow...sounds like an impeccable syllogism to me :)
 
That has to mean that Lassiter and Worst did not have that weapon in their arsenal? Or else I suppose other players would have picked it up long before Efren came along?

And if they didnt have that knowledge, there is no way they could have beaten the Mikas and the Efrens of today.

You make an interesting point here but does it also work in reverse?
This example is not based on rotation but goes as follows:

Efren has never run 526 balls in straight pool. Perhaps he doesn't have the "knowledge" that Mosconi had. Does that mean that Efren could not beat Mosconi?

Just another thought for your careful consideration.

Thanks
 
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