Agreed on that, but like I said before as a meat eater he purchases food that is from a slaughtered/killed animal that may eventually become extinct as well. I just don't like the comparison at all he is using, but that is just my opinion.
Man charged for trading ivory
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Agreed on that, but like I said before as a meat eater he purchases food that is from a slaughtered/killed animal that may eventually become extinct as well. I just don't like the comparison at all he is using, but that is just my opinion.
From his website he lists a bunch of his "Friends".
If you purchased any cues from these cuemakers with ivory you might want to verify the authenticity of it.
http://www.cuecomponents.com/friendsclients.html
If you purchased any cues from these cuemakers with ivory you might want to verify the authenticity of it.
http://www.cuecomponents.com/friendsclients.html
This is getting out of hand... please stop posting this type of non-sense unless you have some facts.
more than likely he was NOT selling poached ivory.
He probably agreed to plea down due to the 12000 cuban cigars he was found to have and rather than have a drawn out legal battle trying to prove everything, he plead guilty to the one charge. A drawn out legal battle would cost a hell of a lot, and I would be surprised if he gets more than a few years probation as part of a plea, if he has no prior record.
It also stated that this was in London, so the plea was probably an agreement between the state department and the UK in order to avoid any complications.
I wouldn't be worried if you purchased ivory from him considering that he represented the ivory as legal in his sales.
Jaden
He probably agreed to plea down due to the 12000 cuban cigars he was found to have and rather than have a drawn out legal battle trying to prove everything, he plead guilty to the one charge. A drawn out legal battle would cost a hell of a lot, and I would be surprised if he gets more than a few years probation as part of a plea, if he has no prior record.
It also stated that this was in London, so the plea was probably an agreement between the state department and the UK in order to avoid any complications.
I wouldn't be worried if you purchased ivory from him considering that he represented the ivory as legal in his sales.
Jaden
Again, chances are the ivory came from within the US, probably LEGAL before the ban. If you read the article they have him on selling POOL CUES with ivory.
The part that you should take away from this is the international shipment of cues with IVORY in them.
JV
Ivory
WOW. Buying ivory is the same as murder and rape. What about floating stop signs and talking on your cellphone while driving, I guess they also should just be shot in the head. I keep a pre ban large ivory tusk in the living room. When the bad guys break in they think they have some sort of contraband and run away happy and forget to rape and kill my loved ones. I also carry a small piece of ivory in my pocket in case someone tries to rob me they take the ivory and run. Ivory is the new pepper spray, and it also keeps the vampires away. I think I saw this greenman guy playing pool the other day. His stick was beautiful. Celery shaft, beautiful carrot forearm with a cucumber butt.
WOW. Buying ivory is the same as murder and rape. What about floating stop signs and talking on your cellphone while driving, I guess they also should just be shot in the head. I keep a pre ban large ivory tusk in the living room. When the bad guys break in they think they have some sort of contraband and run away happy and forget to rape and kill my loved ones. I also carry a small piece of ivory in my pocket in case someone tries to rob me they take the ivory and run. Ivory is the new pepper spray, and it also keeps the vampires away. I think I saw this greenman guy playing pool the other day. His stick was beautiful. Celery shaft, beautiful carrot forearm with a cucumber butt.
That's a pretty sad attitude...if people let every atrocious thing happen just to happen, we'd be essentially be nowhere as a race. Let every disease spread without even trying to find a cure, let every murderer go b/c the person they murdered was meant to get killed.. If we all just said "so be it.." like you, I doubt we'd get very far as a decent minded society.
I'm not going to argue with you b/c you have an opinion and your entitled to it, i'm just saying it's a very narrow-minded opinion.
TheCueHunter
Banned
LOL I am telling you seriously....Here in the "Nati" I cant even walk down the street without someone throwing Ivory at me
Luckily the cops are all over it, and not worrying about the rapist and murderers and drug dealers.
Have been wondering - when is the "preban ivory" sold out??? When was the ban actually inforced? 70's or 80's?
I guess there is not just me who see a gray earea here... If some one says it's pr-ban, how do you know?
Personally I would never make something based on Ivory- I prefer to keep those animals alive. I know about absolutely no trade of Ivory in my end and for those potentially doing so is running a high risk.
I have therefor been surprized to see how this trade has been done openly in the US- based on pre-ban... If there is a demand I have a sneaking feeling that some one would run out of pre-ban materials - if the US don't have hugh quantity of pre-ban material...
Anyway, just my thoughts and I'm not a vegitarian.
I guess there is not just me who see a gray earea here... If some one says it's pr-ban, how do you know?
Personally I would never make something based on Ivory- I prefer to keep those animals alive. I know about absolutely no trade of Ivory in my end and for those potentially doing so is running a high risk.
I have therefor been surprized to see how this trade has been done openly in the US- based on pre-ban... If there is a demand I have a sneaking feeling that some one would run out of pre-ban materials - if the US don't have hugh quantity of pre-ban material...
Anyway, just my thoughts and I'm not a vegitarian.
I just murdered someone with my ivory handled knife.
Guess im going to hell now.
Guess im going to hell now.
I didn't see any feedback about this webpage and the info there.
Seems like a good disclaimer if it is all factual. Don't you think ?
He should have obeyed the law.
Not all ivory is elephant ivory.
Not all elephant ivory is illegal.
I do not know why live elephants could not be farmed for their meat and their ivory.
The wonton premature killing of an elephant for its ivory is illegal and morally very bad, but it is not the same as rape or murder.
Willingness to use ivory does not make me a poacher. I want to buy legal ivory.
Not all ivory is elephant ivory.
Not all elephant ivory is illegal.
I do not know why live elephants could not be farmed for their meat and their ivory.
The wonton premature killing of an elephant for its ivory is illegal and morally very bad, but it is not the same as rape or murder.
Willingness to use ivory does not make me a poacher. I want to buy legal ivory.
Sorry greenwienie - but you are the one with the limmited vision. The incomvienient truth is that the BEST way to guarentee the extention of the elephant is to remove its economic value.
What concerns are you aware of about the extinction of cows in America?
BTW - roughly how much straw did you consume in the construction of that man? You do realise none of those problems would exist if trade in elephants was not banned, don't you?
Oh yeah, the problem of poaching is miniscule for elephant. It is loss of
habitat due to human encroachment that has led to their doom.
Dale<who has poached an egg, but never poached an elephant>
uh , no he won't . Did you READ the article in the link ? It said he "pleaded" (pled) guilty to violations of the Endangered species act . That means no trial . Punished ? If by that you mean pay a fine and serve some unsupervised probation . . . .
yeah , I seem to remember something about him , and a cucumber in his butt . . . .but was there a pool cue involved ? Maybe that was something else entirely . . . .?
This is the dumbest thing I have EVER read on this forum. Really. The dumbest. Ever. Period.
- B <-----------:rotflmao1:
Maybe you should be locked up for whatever it is you're illegally smoking.
Yeah, another thread about using ivory. Most posts will be from the ill informed. I am sure he doesn't play with a cue and or case from China made by 12 year olds.
JV
I started this thread and I didn't say anywhere in my post whether the use of ivory is good or bad. I simply provided information. A link to a story about someone being arrested for selling an ivory cue. I think this is relevant information given this is a billiard forum. And, many of the members buy and sell cues.
Would you prefer the general public and more specifically our members not be informed of someone being arrested for selling a cue with illegal ivory? Does that potentially hurt your sells?
As far as the cue and case I use! I have a black boar RS2 and a Ron Thomas case.
Steven